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Posted: 12/4/2010 2:43:49 PM EDT
I found this piece in a pawn shop.  I replaced the forend, which was a glossy checkard one from a hunting model. I found a smooth hard wood forend, which is what it had originally. I got lucky finding the forend. It matches perfect. Someone along the line had put a weaver compensator/ choke on it so they could hunt with it I imagine . The front sight base and bead was missing from the installation of the choke.

A very friendly Arfcom member had an old model 11 front site base and bead which he most kindly sent me for free in the mail. I had my gunsmith do the removal of the choke and putting the base and bead on.This gun handles well and shoots good too. It's a cool piece of history. It even has some soldiers Army serial number engraved on the underside, It's RA6025. It would be cool to know who had the shotgun.  The serial number says it's a 1943. It was an original cyl bore riot gun.


Here's what it looked like when I got it



interesting how they mark it  " military finish "

A U.S marking on top of the barrel

You can faintly see the inspection markes some kind of symbol then "FJA"

Some guys Army number


Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:45:08 PM EDT
[#1]
Very cool.  
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:45:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:45:48 PM EDT
[#3]
That won't be a 'soldier's serial number'.

Guns were not serialized to whomever they were issued to.  



Nice shotgun, tho.   I think maybe if I were to get a 12ga, something like that would have a definite classic/cool factor compared to a modern 'tactical' pumper.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:48:01 PM EDT
[#4]
IIRC strat57 has one in at least 98% condition and is fricking gorgeous.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:49:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Looks great!
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:49:48 PM EDT
[#6]
that is awesome, great restoration
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:50:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
That won't be a 'soldier's serial number'.

Guns were not serialized to whomever they were issued to.  



Nice shotgun, tho.   I think maybe if I were to get a 12ga, something like that would have a definite classic/cool factor compared to a modern 'tactical' pumper.


RA6025  is someone's number.   Regular Army 6025. I did'nt know what it meant till I showed it to one of my freinds who was in the army in 1957. He pointed that out to me.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:51:13 PM EDT
[#8]
I'm in love









I <3 military shotguns
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:51:53 PM EDT
[#9]
Very cool.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:52:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Good job.  I like it alot.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:53:53 PM EDT
[#11]
That's pretty cool.  I really like the "hump back" semi-auto shotguns.  I've got an old Browning Auto 5.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 2:54:17 PM EDT
[#12]
I am liking it. I would love to find a good deal on a old model 11.




Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:05:25 PM EDT
[#13]
I did some quick searches on military serial numbers and I don't think that is one. It seems that 6025 would have been assigned to a USCG officer between 1921 and 1974. The RA prefix wouldn't go with that.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:09:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I did some quick searches on military serial numbers and I don't think that is one. It seems that 6025 would have been assigned to a USCG officer between 1921 and 1974. The RA prefix wouldn't go with that.


Thanks, the mystery continues......Maybe someone on here can figure it out.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:13:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Nice
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:13:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Very nice OP....
My buddy has a model 11 that his grandfather passed on to him.  I cleaned and lubed it up for him......  He put it in a gun case and tossed it in his closet.      I don't think he will ever shoot it.  He's not much of a gun person.  I would love to have it.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:17:03 PM EDT
[#17]
It was manufactured by Remington right? Maybe it was the 6025th delivered from Remington Arms?
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:21:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
IIRC strat57 has one in at least 98% condition and is fricking gorgeous.




There was one NIB that just sold on gunbroker for $3200. I wanted it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=202531025
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:28:49 PM EDT
[#19]
I managed to find a Remington that was first year of production (1909, I think) for $250 at a local gun store.  First time I ever got over on those people after many years of forking over tons of money.  Great old gun, (refinished, of course), but a great old gun.

Of course, I'd far rather have the OP's.


Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:32:51 PM EDT
[#20]
i have an 11  great gun  ,unique that  the barrel moves on recoil
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:33:48 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
IIRC strat57 has one in at least 98% condition and is fricking gorgeous.




There was one NIB that just sold on gunbroker for $3200. I wanted it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=202531025


Wow, that thing is unreal. The box is in such good shape. It's very close in serial number to mine.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:35:12 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Quoted:
IIRC strat57 has one in at least 98% condition and is fricking gorgeous.




There was one NIB that just sold on gunbroker for $3200. I wanted it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=202531025


Nice.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:37:31 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I managed to find a Remington that was first year of production (1909, I think) for $250 at a local gun store.  First time I ever got over on those people after many years of forking over tons of money.  Great old gun, (refinished, of course), but a great old gun.

Of course, I'd far rather have the OP's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/Guevera/IMG_0290.jpg


That's nice. Look how they changed the saftey. later on they went to the normal push button safety. How does it shoot?
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:38:31 PM EDT
[#24]
Tagscribe.

Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:47:42 PM EDT
[#25]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I did some quick searches on military serial numbers and I don't think that is one. It seems that 6025 would have been assigned to a USCG officer between 1921 and 1974. The RA prefix wouldn't go with that.




Thanks, the mystery continues......Maybe someone on here can figure it out.


Perhaps it ended up in some correctional facility or police dept.

 
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:50:00 PM EDT
[#26]
My number was RA091010923. Got it in 69. And nice gun.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:55:38 PM EDT
[#27]
I have an incomplete receiver for one of these. Does that count?  The final machining and finish polish was never done.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 3:56:20 PM EDT
[#28]
Very cool, OP.



Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:13:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
I did some quick searches on military serial numbers and I don't think that is one. It seems that 6025 would have been assigned to a USCG officer between 1921 and 1974. The RA prefix wouldn't go with that.


Thanks, the mystery continues......Maybe someone on here can figure it out.

Perhaps it ended up in some correctional facility or police dept.  


That's what I was thinking. I remember reading that a bunch of these did end up there.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:26:26 PM EDT
[#30]
you need to go to the Danner sale
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:27:38 PM EDT
[#31]
RA= Rhodesian Army, perhaps?

I know the Rhodies used A5's, although theirs had a full-length handguard.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:39:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Excellent find! I inherited a Savage-Springfield 745B which is the same model you've got there except it's a civilian shotgun. Very nice handling indeed. Mine has a 4 inch long crack down the fore end that I'd love to repair before I shoot it. Mine has been my safe queen since I came in to my possession two years ago, but despite the fore end damage there is no way in hell I'd trade it for anything else out there.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:41:09 PM EDT
[#33]
I believe John Dillinger had one of those.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:50:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Excellent find! I inherited a Savage-Springfield 745B which is the same model you've got there except it's a civilian shotgun. Very nice handling indeed. Mine has a 4 inch long crack down the fore end that I'd love to repair before I shoot it. Mine has been my safe queen since I came in to my possession two years ago, but despite the fore end damage there is no way in hell I'd trade it for anything else out there.


Here's the one I replaced on mine. Does it match your shotgun?

Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:53:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
you need to go to the Danner sale


lol.

Nice shotgun , OP.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:54:47 PM EDT
[#36]
Oh man, that's really great. I love the Auto-5/Model 11, just a gorgeous shotgun.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 4:58:53 PM EDT
[#37]
Didn't the Navy or Coast Guard use those for shooting skeet to train AAA gunners?
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:00:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
It was manufactured by Remington right? Maybe it was the 6025th delivered from Remington Arms?



It looks to me like the RA number as put on later by someone with one of those buzzy-pen things that were popular for marking metal a while ago. (Scribing pens?)

The RA number does not have the crispness of a stamp, so I don't think it was done either by the maker or tha armory.

Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:10:07 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Didn't the Navy or Coast Guard use those for shooting skeet to train AAA gunners?



Yep, they mounted them on a kinda 50 cal simulator looking deal with the spade grips to each them how to lead a target. A guy on here made a working one. Maybe he'll show up and post pics?
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:12:36 PM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:33:24 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
I managed to find a Remington that was first year of production (1909, I think) for $250 at a local gun store.  First time I ever got over on those people after many years of forking over tons of money.  Great old gun, (refinished, of course), but a great old gun.

Of course, I'd far rather have the OP's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/Guevera/IMG_0290.jpg



1905 was the first year.

http://www.remington.com/products/archived/shotguns/autoloading/model-11.aspx

Here is my 1905 model 11A

Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:35:39 PM EDT
[#42]
Here's a real remington model 11 aerial gunner turret trainer


Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:46:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
IIRC strat57 has one in at least 98% condition and is fricking gorgeous.




Just for you, my brother...











Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:51:15 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
That's nice. Look how they changed the saftey. later on they went to the normal push button safety. How does it shoot?


I find it has a kind of interesting "chug" sensation to firing it, I guess because of the recoiling barrel.  I haven't shot any skeet with it, and that will be the acid test.

Edited to add: damn, but that is a pretty shotgun right above this post.





Link Posted: 12/4/2010 5:53:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Didn't the Navy or Coast Guard use those for shooting skeet to train AAA gunners?


Army Air Force trained B17/B24 gunners with shotguns, shooting at clay pigeons from a moving truck.

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/98213394.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F52AD80DEA1F686E315A5E76D1035046589DD143D36FFBF7A1E30A760B0D811297


My grandfather was a B-24 navigator, but they were all cross-trained to use the guns.

He said that was the best training on how to shoot down 109's that they got.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 7:51:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Beautiful shotguns.



Great, now I want one.
Link Posted: 12/4/2010 8:05:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Here's my Savage 720 that I've been working on.

As I got it



How it looks now


Link Posted: 12/5/2010 5:07:28 AM EDT
[#48]
...that is way cool my friend...now I want one.
Link Posted: 12/5/2010 5:27:03 AM EDT
[#49]
FYI,

The Remington M 11, Savage 720 and Browning A5 were basically the same shotgun.  My 83 year old father has a Savage 720. It is pretty fun to shoot.
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