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Posted: 9/26/2004 1:00:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 1:04:23 PM EST by raven]
Germany's Critique of the U.S.: One-Way Street Only

There's no limit to the critique of America and the American government in the German media and in German politics - but please note, dear American friends: this is a one-way street only.

Germany pulls out of military expo over retired Army officer's column

HEIDELBERG, Germany — The German military has pulled out of the U.S. Army’s annual Land Combat Expo, protesting an opinion piece written by a controversial retired U.S. officer slated to be a guest speaker at next week’s event.

Retired Army Lt. Col. Ralph Peters, a noted author and frequent lecturer in military circles, wrote an opinion piece blasting the Germans in the New York Post on Aug. 19. The column came in the wake of criticism from Sen. John Kerry’s presidential campaign team of President Bush’s plan to reduce U.S. forces in Europe and Asia.

“Not one presents a reasoned strategic argument for maintaining wasteful garrisons abroad. And not one admits that the Germans only care about losing the jobs we provide,” wrote Peters.

“Regarding the Democrats’ claim that we’ll lose influence in Europe, the obvious question is, ‘What influence?’” Peters continued. “We’re not stabbing our French and German ‘allies’ in the back. They stabbed us. And they’ll do it again. Our troop posture in Europe doesn’t give us influence over the Europeans — it gives the Europeans power over us.”

In response, German army leaders informed U.S. officials on Tuesday that they’ve decided to pull out of the expo, said Col. Hans Kling, the chief German liaison officer at the Army European headquarters in Heidelberg. Kling said the decision to withdraw from the expo was made by the commander of Germany’s land forces, Lt. Gen. Axel Bürgener.

The Germans were to provide three tanks, two wheeled vehicles and about 30 soldiers as part of the German army’s display at the expo. (...)

Peters said any boycott amounts to “defacto censorship.”

Called for comment at home in northern Virginia, Peters said, “It’s perfectly all right for the Germans to call President Bush a Nazi, it’s perfectly all right for the Germans to criticize everything about America, to lionize [“Fahrenheit 911” director] Michael Moore and treat our soldiers as second-class human beings … but they want to try and censor the American media.”

Peters said the German decision was disappointing but not surprising.

“I think the fact that they’re pulling out is the best imaginable indicator of how weak our alliance is, how meaningless Germany’s contribution is,” said Peters. “If they pull out because they can’t stand one 800-word opinion piece in an American newspaper, how could we possibly expect them to stand by us in a violent crisis?” (emphasis added)

Peters, who is fluent in German and served in Germany for 10 years during his active-duty career, said he stands by everything he wrote.

I guess the German military will demand Michael Moore or Susan Sontag as guest speaker at the U.S. military expo in order to attend. Anything less will be considered an insult.

Did I mention Noam Chomsky?

medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/2004/09/germanys_critiq.html
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:28:47 PM EST
You know what, FUCK YOU GERMANY, and the rest of the pussy european countries. All the sorry ass european countries that want criticize our great nation while living is a socialist shithole. Like you have any clue to how things should be done. You run at the first sign of trouble, do back door deals with the enemy, and leech off us. How much money does europe owe the us. How much have we given them?

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:44:37 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/26/2004 1:59:06 PM EST
Just think of the fallout if we told them hogan had a radio in the coffee pot.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:01:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 2:05:57 PM EST by M4C]
What better can be expected from a nation which is run by the degenerate sons and daughters of NaZi thugs?
Germany rose out of the ash heap they created for themselves in WWII only to be coddled, pampered and protected by the USA. They owe everything (of importance) they have to the USA yet still act like the bratty child that they are.
The USA has become the convenient punching bag for all manner of Germany's social deviants in power, a really mixed and confused bag, because they know their culture is a failed one and their delusions of grandeur still persist in their troubled minds, which still have fascist tendencies that linger on.
Germany can make beer and build a car; that's all I can take from them.
Anything pertaining to philosophy, government, environmental policy - or any kind of policy-making is shit that causes nothing but trouble. Look at its history and reputation - enough said. That they should have the GALL to preach peace and policy to the USA?

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:05:54 PM EST
FUCK Germany and Japan too! I still don't understand why we rebuilt them after whipping their asses. Europe can pretty much lick my nuts. (Except for the UK). I say we just get the hell out of there, and see how well the kids play together then?
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:14:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4C:
What better can be expected from a nation which is run by the degenerate sons and daughters of NaZi thugs?
Germany rose out of the ash heap they created for themselves in WWII only to be coddled, pampered and protected by the USA. They owe everything (of importance) they have to the USA yet still act like the bratty child that they are.
The USA has become the convenient punching bag for all manner of Germany's social deviants in power, a really mixed and confused bag, because they know their culture is a failed one and their delusions of grandeur still persist in their troubled minds, which still have fascist tendencies that linger on.
Germany can make beer and build a car; that's all I can take from them.
Anything pertaining to philosophy, government, environmental policy - or any kind of policy-making is shit that causes nothing but trouble. Look at its history and reputation - enough said. That they should have the GALL to preach peace and policy to the USA?




You hit the nail on the head. Fu@k em. They are ungrateful bastards like the French. We helped free half of the country with BackChannel Communication between President Reagan and President Gorbachov. "Mr. Gorbachov, Tear down this wall!"

From the people who brought you Auswitz.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:20:31 PM EST
Look, they are all distancing themselves from us because we were the first target.

They thought we'd play victim and were prepared to help us out if we did. Instead we lashed out violently against the agressors. They are scared, not us, of another attack. We will fight until we are done.

And they also notice because of the growing percentage of muslims in their countries. They are running scared. Muslim people multiply like feral dogs under the free medical care systems set up in those countries. They are realizing that the oom-pah days are soon to be replaced with minarets calling the faithful Adolfs and Karls to jihad. I can actually envision the Germans enjoying Islam's lock-step dedication to procedure.

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:21:12 PM EST
Germany has troops in Afganistan, no?
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:21:59 PM EST

The Germans were to provide three tanks, two wheeled vehicles and about 30 soldiers as part of the German army’s display at the expo. (...)





Oh no! How will the US ever pull off the expo with the loss of three tanks and 30 soldiers!?!?????



CMOS
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 2:22:44 PM EST
Let's get our troops out of Europe and our diplomats out of the UN. Let them stew in their own fetid juices!

Link Posted: 9/26/2004 3:24:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By JoeWang:
I can actually envision the Germans enjoying Islam's lock-step dedication to procedure.




I suspect the Germans will adopt to Islam quite well… they have the same salute and all Arab Armies goosestep…



A hezbollah meeting… mein fuerher!

Andy
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