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Posted: 8/14/2007 4:51:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 4:52:52 AM EDT by EagleArmsHBAR]
I have a good idea that my friend will have to take a drug test at work tomorrow. Problem is that my friend had to take 350 mg of hydrocodone on Sunday evening for severe pain but did not have a prescription. How long does the hydrocodone stay in the system? Is she screwed?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:54:02 AM EDT
screwed, last about 2wks
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:55:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 4:58:21 AM EDT by The_Reaper]
350mg hydrocodone would probably kill you, wouldn't it?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:58:04 AM EDT
Really, just one pill will last that long?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:00:16 AM EDT
well if it was just one and not a regular user, probably 2-4 days
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:00:19 AM EDT
2 days...
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:00:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
Really, just one pill will last that long?


The half life of hydrocodone is around 4 hours.

So she has gone through around 12 halflifes.

Doing the math, I don't see how there could be enough left to detect...

But some medical lab tech will surely chime in and correct me.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:01:09 AM EDT
You....I mean, your "friend" will probably need to call in.

Alternatively, they have those fake urine things. You stick it in your pants so it will warm to your temp, and then you use that to fill the cup. Surely tthe type of businesses that sell those will have overnight shipping available.



Hugs not drugs

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:02:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
350mg hydrocodone would probably kill you, wouldn't it?


The 350 probably refers to the acetaminophen content of the pill. Norco is 5/325. Probably what the OP means.

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:02:17 AM EDT
Why did "your friend" take drugs without a prescription?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:02:35 AM EDT
glad I dont have to do such things.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:02:37 AM EDT
350 MG is over 20 doses , what the fuck kind of pain was he in?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:04:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 5:05:31 AM EDT by HELOBRAVO]

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
350mg hydrocodone would probably kill you, wouldn't it?


What I was thinking. If he's not a regular user and not a fat ass it'll be in his system a matter of days only.
I just had another class on drug test, since I do them sometime. The teacher stated that drinking a glass of "sure gel" (?), or whatever that stuff for making jelly is will clear you. You have to drink a whole pack mixed in water, pee once and them go piss for the test.
I'm glad I don't have to worry about that kind of crap anymore....
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:07:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
Why did "your friend" take drugs without a prescription?


People do it all the time.

I took one of my wifes vics one time. Back pain is a bitch.

I am not going to the doc so he can give me a bottle of pills so I can take one for a night and all better.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:08:14 AM EDT
I do know the truck driving test (5 panel) looks for and detects masking agents. Any detection of them is an automatic fail.

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:08:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
Why did "your friend" take drugs without a prescription?
OMG ONEZ!1 take a drug without a prescription. Hardcore criminal there.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:09:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 5:10:53 AM EDT by AROKIE]
48 hrs if he took ONE 10mg hydrocodone/500mg acetaminophen
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:12:42 AM EDT
I am going to wait and see if the dude really took "350mg of hydrocodone"

if he did he likely won't need a drug test
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:13:55 AM EDT
Sounds like the person who took 350 mg of whatever didn't do it just that once
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:16:40 AM EDT
Tell her to walk into the testing place eating a poppy seed bagel.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:19:39 AM EDT
her dad gave it to her for pain from her menstral cramps. she took a tiny 100 mg pill and then half of a 500 mg pill an hour later. That is it. Not a user. Just needed something strong.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:23:50 AM EDT
I doubt they even test for that, if it's a prescription drug. And it sounds like the pills were something with that in it, not 100% that. They're checking for weed.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:26:00 AM EDT
Maybe they don't test for that drug
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:26:56 AM EDT
They're checking for illegal substances, not prescription medications.
So many people are on something legally prescribed, they don't have the time or inclination to check out every substance.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:27:02 AM EDT
I wouldn't worry about it... I had kidney surgery late 2006, and I tell you I was on more than a dose of 5/350 of vicodin for pain (prescribed)... I had to take a DOT drug test (routine, random for work) and they didn't say a thing about it or ask to see my prescription or anything.

- AG
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:28:38 AM EDT
they are checking for weed, and probably coke, thats gonna be all
txl
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 5:35:59 AM EDT
Her dad said it was hydrocodone, but it could have had a different brand name or something. I dont really know.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:05:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoStockBikes:
I doubt they even test for that, if it's a prescription drug. And it sounds like the pills were something with that in it, not 100% that. They're checking for weed.


lortab/vicodin/hydrocodone is an opiate. most if not all test for opiates
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:06:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/14/2007 6:12:47 AM EDT by California_Kid]
Less than 72 hours.

Most drug screenings test for:

Cannabinoids (Boo, tea, grass, hooters, etc.)
Opiates (smack, Mother Superior, heroin, prescription narcotics like hydrocodone, etc.)
Benzodiazepines (tranquilizers like Valium)
Phencyclidine (PCP, Angel Dust)
Amphetamines (Crank, meth, crystal, etc.)

Natural opium sources like poppy seeds create a balance of metabolites that can be determined through gas chromatography.

Initial screenings are crude and usually done by testing a sample of urine. Many prescription and OTC drugs create false positives for one category or another.

Best advice is not to use illegal drugs, but that will not necessarily prevent you from coming up positive on the whiz quiz.

The solution to pollution is dilution.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:18:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

The solution to pollution is dilution.


Sweet! That applies to many modern problems.

I just had a military-style wiz-quiz, and had taken an Oxy two days before. They either did not check for opiates, or called the doc and got the prescription info.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 6:46:30 AM EDT
Just trip on acid. They can't test for that
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:19:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Less than 72 hours.

Most drug screenings test for:

Cannabinoids (Boo, tea, grass, hooters, etc.)
Opiates (smack, Mother Superior, heroin, prescription narcotics like hydrocodone, etc.)
Benzodiazepines (tranquilizers like Valium)
Phencyclidine (PCP, Angel Dust)
Amphetamines (Crank, meth, crystal, etc.)

Natural opium sources like poppy seeds create a balance of metabolites that can be determined through gas chromatography.

Initial screenings are crude and usually done by testing a sample of urine. Many prescription and OTC drugs create false positives for one category or another.

Best advice is not to use illegal drugs, but that will not necessarily prevent you from coming up positive on the whiz quiz.

The solution to pollution is dilution.


Not dilution, SUBSTITUTION!
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:39:25 AM EDT
Dilution will buy you some time, but you'll have to retest and it will throw a red flag... Substitution is best, synthetic or from a clean friend as long as you test your plan BEFORE test time...
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:40:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
Just trip on acid. They can't test for that


Mushrooms, Psyllicybans(sp) don't show up on the standard 5 panel.

And no I don't use anything that can't be bought at the package store.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:46:53 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:47:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vengarr:
350 MG is over 20 doses , what the fuck kind of pain was he in?


Yeah WTF?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:48:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By brickard:
Dilution will buy you some time, but you'll have to retest and it will throw a red flag... Substitution is best, synthetic or from a clean friend as long as you test your plan BEFORE test time...


It's better to flunk the screening due to dilute urine than have a positive for a controlled substance. That time could save your butt.

Here in Cali, all an employer can do in that situation is require you to take another initial screening. Usually that just increases the probability that the subject will come up negative.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:52:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Less than 72 hours.

Most drug screenings test for:

Cannabinoids (Boo, tea, grass, hooters, etc.)
Opiates (smack, Mother Superior, heroin, prescription narcotics like hydrocodone, etc.)
Benzodiazepines (tranquilizers like Valium)
Phencyclidine (PCP, Angel Dust, Sherman Hemsley)
Amphetamines (Crank, meth, crystal, etc.)

Natural opium sources like poppy seeds create a balance of metabolites that can be determined through gas chromatography.

Initial screenings are crude and usually done by testing a sample of urine. Many prescription and OTC drugs create false positives for one category or another.

Best advice is not to use illegal drugs, but that will not necessarily prevent you from coming up positive on the whiz quiz.

The solution to pollution is dilution.


Just thought I'd keep the theme going.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:55:04 AM EDT
I have a "freind" sitting right next to me and he keeps telling me that he is going to bind my hands with cord, shoot crystal meth into his thigh and go "cave man" on me.

Although I could just be hallucinating again...
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:55:55 AM EDT
Funny i just took one this morning.

Gald i dont use anything.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 7:58:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxwell71:

Originally Posted By Barrelburner:
Why did "your friend" take drugs without a prescription?


People do it all the time.

I took one of my wifes vics one time. Back pain is a bitch.

I am not going to the doc so he can give me a bottle of pills so I can take one for a night and all better.


No kidding...
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 8:13:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:

Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
her dad gave it to her for pain from her menstral cramps. she took a tiny 100 mg pill and then half of a 500 mg pill an hour later. That is it. Not a user. Just needed something strong.

No offense, but your friend is stupid. In the running for a new job and taking narcotics without a prescription?

An acquaintance had some of that back pain and got someone to help him out with a vicodin when he was in the interview process for a job that probably would have saved his house from foreclosure. What do you know? One pre-employment screening drug test later and he's living in his mom's basement again at 45.

Tell your friend about Midol.



LoL, stupid for taking a single pill for pain?

How about stupid for ruining someone’s life over a single pill for pain?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 8:22:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ecgRN:

Originally Posted By vengarr:
350 MG is over 20 doses , what the fuck kind of pain was he in?


Yeah WTF?


WOW just WOW!!! I took 2 10mg once and I just sat there and drooled (the pain was gone). Thank God a Gratefull dead concert was on the tube, and the buzz was not waisted..

350mg is enought to take down a bull elephant!
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 8:38:09 AM EDT
i guess this is why you should not take other peoples prescription meds especially narcotics.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:14:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 4:44:38 PM EDT
Hydrocodone is not usualy tested for unless they ask specificaly,and it cost them more. If she is still worried have her drink plenty of water,if her pee is clear have her drink a 16 ounce Rockstar a couple hours before the test.
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