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Posted: 4/19/2016 3:55:21 PM EDT
I don't understand some people. I live out in the country in SW Ok, its pretty rural. I mean like down a shitty gravel road, way off the beaten path kinda rural.

Most country people have dogs in my experience and those dogs can be territorial. My house is out in the country and sits back from a gravel road by about 80 yards or so and my property has an exterior barbwire fence with a gate that I leave open most of the time cause its easier for me and the wife and kids to drive in and out without opening and closing the gate.

The main gate/entrance has 3 large "Private Property/No Trespassing" signs.

The house itself is surrounded by a second fence, a chain link fence and my dogs are contained within that chain link fence.

So a stranger drives up, sees the No Trespassing signs and parks right at the gate in my drive. He then proceeds to walk up my driveway and opens the chain link fence and enters. His big mistake! My wife heard the dogs (we have 5, they are mostly muts) go berserk and knew something was wrong. She walked to the front door and saw the guy with four dogs latched on, one on each leg and one hanging from each arm, the last dog, our Great Dane was circling from behind.

With loud yelling from my wife she was able to get the dogs to let go and the guy immediately exited the chain link fence area. We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect.

My wife was worried about the dogs attacking him but I am not. He crossed two fences on posted property, his mistake not ours.

I guess I need to add more signs on my property. I feel I am a responsible pet owner, even though I live out in the country with 10 acres of my own but everything around me is open farm and ranch land, I don't let my dogs roam. They stay inside a large fenced area.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:57:40 PM EDT
He played the game, he won the prize.

Not your problem. Your dogs were retained in an enclosed area that he entered, they did what came naturally to them.

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:58:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 3:58:17 PM EDT by metalsaber]
Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
I don't understand some people. I live out in the country in SW Ok, its pretty rural. I mean like down a shitty gravel road, way off the beaten path kinda rural.

Most country people have dogs in my experience and those dogs can be territorial. My house is out in the country and sits back from a gravel road by about 80 yards or so and my property has an exterior barbwire fence with a gate that I leave open most of the time cause its easier for me and the wife and kids to drive in and out without opening and closing the gate.

The main gate/entrance has 3 large "Private Property/No Trespassing" signs.

The house itself is surrounded by a second fence, a chain link fence and my dogs are contained within that chain link fence.

So a stranger drives up, sees the No Trespassing signs and parks right at the gate in my drive. He then proceeds to walk up my driveway and opens the chain link fence and enters. His big mistake! My wife heard the dogs (we have 5, they are mostly muts) go berserk and knew something was wrong. She walked to the front door and saw the guy with four dogs latched on, one on each leg and one hanging from each arm, the last dog, our Great Dane was circling from behind.

With loud yelling from my wife she was able to get the dogs to let go and the guy immediately exited the chain link fence area. We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect.

My wife was worried about the dogs attacking him but I am not. He crossed two fences on posted property, his mistake not ours.

I guess I need to add more signs on my property. I feel I am a responsible pet owner, even though I live out in the country with 10 acres of my own but everything around me is open farm and ranch land, I don't let my dogs roam. They stay inside a large fenced area.
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you aren't responsible. You place numerous signs and fences telling people to stay the fuck out. Its not your fault the person can't read or is dumb as shit. And it sure isn't your dogs fault.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:58:46 PM EDT
You can't fix that kind of stupid with 1000 signs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:59:06 PM EDT
Yeah... he kinda asked for it.

No way he didn't know the dogs were there before he opened the gate on your interior fence. Not with 5 of them.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:59:27 PM EDT
Had the same thing happen to me.

You're in the clear.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 3:59:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 4:02:32 PM EDT by Hugo_Stiglitz]
Good luck. IANAL and I'm no expert, but I have a feeling that your insurance agent and lawyer will be involved in your life soon, and I agree with you it's his fault, but that doesn't matter much.

ETA: I see there are others with experience saying I'm wrong...that's good. I have a pair of bitey twins and secure my rural place like you, but I've always planned if they did their work as intended I'd have accompanying problems of insurance and lawyers.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:00:04 PM EDT
How fucking stupid is that guy?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:02:52 PM EDT
His fault
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:02:57 PM EDT
Holy crap! We have a situation where the owner of the bitey dog is 100% in the right. I don't see what else you could have done, OP.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:03:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Good luck. IANAL and I'm no expert, but I have a feeling that your insurance agent and lawyer will be involved in your life soon, and I agree with you it's his fault, but that doesn't matter much.

ETA: I see there are others with experience saying I'm wrong...that's good. I have a pair of bitey twins and secure my rural place like you, but I've always planned if they did their work as intended I'd have accompanying problems of insurance and lawyers.
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No you're probably right.

My victim didn't press the issue, but I bet she would have if I didn't have it all on surveillance video.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:08:25 PM EDT
Please do not take this as me blaming you because I am not. But, you may want to rethink your signs. I am ok with the signs at the first gate. I would post another sign 70 yards out "are you stupid", at 60 yards "dumbass, really no trespassing" and so on down to the chain link fence gate. This is where you need a sign explaining that person reading the sign is about to be eaten by 4 dogs. You also need to get a camera so we can see said individuals dance around with a dog on each appendage.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:11:06 PM EDT
He did exactly what he wasn't supposed to do, & they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Good doggies.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:14:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 4:16:21 PM EDT by USCG_CPO]
I wasn't home when it happened. My wife described him as "mid 30's sketchy looking Indian or Mexican guy with a beat-up pickup." That's half the population of my county

She said he was very apologetic and said he probably shouldn't have came on the property after seeing the signs

She asked him if he was ok and he said yes as he was walking back down the drive to leave. Don't know for sure what he wanted or was doing but he wouldn't be the first person to come on my property looking around, acting wierd.

Edit to ad I have now put Beware of Dog signs on the chain link fence just in case you crossed the first fence boundary and bypassed the other signs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:19:35 PM EDT
"We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect. "

Sounds like a good bite.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:19:45 PM EDT
Post his resume.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:21:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:22:48 PM EDT
Hope you're buying some steaks on the way home.

Good dogs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:23:12 PM EDT
While I agree you should be in the clear, I doubt you are.

I had a dog bite a neighbor kid in our fenced in back yard. Bit him on the ear and he had a hospital visit. We were not home when it happened.

Much later we got a demand letter from an attorney for medical costs. Turned that over to insurance.

Much later we got a cancellation notice from the insurance company. They paid the claim, but said we couldn't be insured with a vicious dog.

Bottom line, if sees an attorney, your insurance will be paying and you may have trouble.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:24:47 PM EDT
Good dogs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:24:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
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LOL. His resume consisted of, "I was looking for your husband to ask about a job."

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:26:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y:


No you're probably right.

My victim didn't press the issue, but I bet she would have if I didn't have it all on surveillance video.
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Originally Posted By Hugo_Stiglitz:
Good luck. IANAL and I'm no expert, but I have a feeling that your insurance agent and lawyer will be involved in your life soon, and I agree with you it's his fault, but that doesn't matter much.

ETA: I see there are others with experience saying I'm wrong...that's good. I have a pair of bitey twins and secure my rural place like you, but I've always planned if they did their work as intended I'd have accompanying problems of insurance and lawyers.


No you're probably right.

My victim didn't press the issue, but I bet she would have if I didn't have it all on surveillance video.


Of course if they drag their victim to the hog pen...
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:26:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
I don't understand some people. I live out in the country in SW Ok, its pretty rural. I mean like down a shitty gravel road, way off the beaten path kinda rural.

Most country people have dogs in my experience and those dogs can be territorial. My house is out in the country and sits back from a gravel road by about 80 yards or so and my property has an exterior barbwire fence with a gate that I leave open most of the time cause its easier for me and the wife and kids to drive in and out without opening and closing the gate.

The main gate/entrance has 3 large "Private Property/No Trespassing" signs.

The house itself is surrounded by a second fence, a chain link fence and my dogs are contained within that chain link fence.

So a stranger drives up, sees the No Trespassing signs and parks right at the gate in my drive. He then proceeds to walk up my driveway and opens the chain link fence and enters. His big mistake! My wife heard the dogs (we have 5, they are mostly muts) go berserk and knew something was wrong. She walked to the front door and saw the guy with four dogs latched on, one on each leg and one hanging from each arm, the last dog, our Great Dane was circling from behind.

With loud yelling from my wife she was able to get the dogs to let go and the guy immediately exited the chain link fence area. We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect.

My wife was worried about the dogs attacking him but I am not. He crossed two fences on posted property, his mistake not ours.

I guess I need to add more signs on my property. I feel I am a responsible pet owner, even though I live out in the country with 10 acres of my own but everything around me is open farm and ranch land, I don't let my dogs roam. They stay inside a large fenced area.
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Fuck him.
I hate trespassers.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:27:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

How long did it take to heal? First the thumb, now this.
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y:
Had the same thing happen to me.

You're in the clear.

How long did it take to heal? First the thumb, now this.



Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:27:48 PM EDT
I trust you scolded the great dane.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:27:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 4:29:20 PM EDT by Howie_Phelterbush]
Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
I don't understand some people. I live out in the country in SW Ok, its pretty rural. I mean like down a shitty gravel road, way off the beaten path kinda rural.

Most country people have dogs in my experience and those dogs can be territorial. My house is out in the country and sits back from a gravel road by about 80 yards or so and my property has an exterior barbwire fence with a gate that I leave open most of the time cause its easier for me and the wife and kids to drive in and out without opening and closing the gate.

The main gate/entrance has 3 large "Private Property/No Trespassing" signs.

The house itself is surrounded by a second fence, a chain link fence and my dogs are contained within that chain link fence.

So a stranger drives up, sees the No Trespassing signs and parks right at the gate in my drive. He then proceeds to walk up my driveway and opens the chain link fence and enters. His big mistake! My wife heard the dogs (we have 5, they are mostly muts) go berserk and knew something was wrong. She walked to the front door and saw the guy with four dogs latched on, one on each leg and one hanging from each arm, the last dog, our Great Dane was circling from behind for the kill.

With loud yelling from my wife she was able to get the dogs to let go and the guy immediately exited the chain link fence area. We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect.

My wife was worried about the dogs attacking him but I am not. He crossed two fences on posted property, his mistake not ours.

I guess I need to add more signs on my property. I feel I am a responsible pet owner, even though I live out in the country with 10 acres of my own but everything around me is open farm and ranch land, I don't let my dogs roam. They stay inside a large fenced area.
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that mother fucker needed new underwear for sure. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:28:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:28:55 PM EDT
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Bottom line, if sees an attorney, your insurance will be paying and you may have trouble.
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From the description of the guy I would not be too worried. Does your wife carry when close to unknown people? I don't want to worry you but scum do exist in the USA. I just heard of two brothers who are alleged or thought to have killed a couple. I don't have specifics but it is best to stay vigilant.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:30:04 PM EDT
Can't fault the dogs. Some people really are just that dumb.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:32:24 PM EDT
Good chomp.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:32:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:

Fuck him.
I hate trespassers.
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Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
I don't understand some people. I live out in the country in SW Ok, its pretty rural. I mean like down a shitty gravel road, way off the beaten path kinda rural.

Most country people have dogs in my experience and those dogs can be territorial. My house is out in the country and sits back from a gravel road by about 80 yards or so and my property has an exterior barbwire fence with a gate that I leave open most of the time cause its easier for me and the wife and kids to drive in and out without opening and closing the gate.

The main gate/entrance has 3 large "Private Property/No Trespassing" signs.

The house itself is surrounded by a second fence, a chain link fence and my dogs are contained within that chain link fence.

So a stranger drives up, sees the No Trespassing signs and parks right at the gate in my drive. He then proceeds to walk up my driveway and opens the chain link fence and enters. His big mistake! My wife heard the dogs (we have 5, they are mostly muts) go berserk and knew something was wrong. She walked to the front door and saw the guy with four dogs latched on, one on each leg and one hanging from each arm, the last dog, our Great Dane was circling from behind.

With loud yelling from my wife she was able to get the dogs to let go and the guy immediately exited the chain link fence area. We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect.

My wife was worried about the dogs attacking him but I am not. He crossed two fences on posted property, his mistake not ours.

I guess I need to add more signs on my property. I feel I am a responsible pet owner, even though I live out in the country with 10 acres of my own but everything around me is open farm and ranch land, I don't let my dogs roam. They stay inside a large fenced area.

Fuck him.
I hate trespassers.


may be worth talking to a lawyer. I seem to remember a lawyer saying to press trespassing charges. Maybe before idiot has a chance to file a lawsuit? police report may be a bad idea, maybe not. I don't know. I would be worried personally. I would hate to have to give up my dog.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:32:59 PM EDT
Sounds like a dirtbag played stupid games and got a stupid fuckin' prize.

Good bite.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:33:12 PM EDT
your dogs are going to get shot and your place robbed
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:33:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dj1975232:
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I would be thawing 5 steaks....
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:34:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
I don't understand some people. I live out in the country in SW Ok, its pretty rural. I mean like down a shitty gravel road, way off the beaten path kinda rural.

Most country people have dogs in my experience and those dogs can be territorial. My house is out in the country and sits back from a gravel road by about 80 yards or so and my property has an exterior barbwire fence with a gate that I leave open most of the time cause its easier for me and the wife and kids to drive in and out without opening and closing the gate.

The main gate/entrance has 3 large "Private Property/No Trespassing" signs.

The house itself is surrounded by a second fence, a chain link fence and my dogs are contained within that chain link fence.

So a stranger drives up, sees the No Trespassing signs and parks right at the gate in my drive. He then proceeds to walk up my driveway and opens the chain link fence and enters. His big mistake! My wife heard the dogs (we have 5, they are mostly muts) go berserk and knew something was wrong. She walked to the front door and saw the guy with four dogs latched on, one on each leg and one hanging from each arm, the last dog, our Great Dane was circling from behind.

With loud yelling from my wife she was able to get the dogs to let go and the guy immediately exited the chain link fence area. We don't know him, he said he was looking for me to enquire about a possible job which I find highly suspect.

My wife was worried about the dogs attacking him but I am not. He crossed two fences on posted property, his mistake not ours.

I guess I need to add more signs on my property. I feel I am a responsible pet owner, even though I live out in the country with 10 acres of my own but everything around me is open farm and ranch land, I don't let my dogs roam. They stay inside a large fenced area.
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That's the only thing I see wrong with the story.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:37:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/19/2016 4:41:24 PM EDT by WeimaranerDad]
My one gun club had a problem with neighbors riding horses and ATV's on the wooded gun club property. I guess some parts would have been downrange of the trap field and rifle range. So at one of the gun club meetings I suggested putting up a fence. The gun club president was friends with the club's lawyer, and they had already talked about that. The club president said that building a fence gets you into this legal area called "attractive nuisance"...that people will climb the fence just to see what is on the other side.

EDIT: posting "Beware of Dogs", I have heard, can also be a legal "mess" too, because a lawyer seeking damages or compensation for his client's medical bills, could say "You knew those dogs were dangerous, and thus, posted those signs."

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:38:25 PM EDT
Cave canes!
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:38:57 PM EDT
Generally entering your property via a walkway and going to the door isn't trespassing and theoretically you could have legal issues but I'm guessing your visitor doesn't want to tell the authorities his name, place of birth or business in the neighborhood.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:39:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
My one gun club had a problem with neighbors riding horses and ATV's on the wooded gun club property. I guess some parts would have been downrange of the trap field and rifle range. So at one of the gun club meetings I suggested putting up a fence. The gun club president was friends with the club's lawyer, and they had already talked about that. The club president said that building a fence gets you into this legal area called "attractive nuisance"...that people will climb the fence just to see what is on the other side.
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That guy is a retard.

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:40:37 PM EDT
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I would be thawing 5 steaks....
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Originally Posted By dj1975232:
Good dogs.


I would be thawing 5 steaks....


People really thaw steaks? Just buy them fresh on the way home.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:42:32 PM EDT
He just came to 'ask' if you had any personal property you like to go missing...

Good bite.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:42:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
My one gun club had a problem with neighbors riding horses and ATV's on the wooded gun club property. I guess some parts would have been downrange of the trap field and rifle range. So at one of the gun club meetings I suggested putting up a fence. The gun club president was friends with the club's lawyer, and they had already talked about that. The club president said that building a fence gets you into this legal area called "attractive nuisance"...that people will climb the fence just to see what is on the other side.

EDIT: posting "Beware of Dogs", I have heard, can also be a legal "mess" too, because a lawyer seeking damages or compensation for his client's medical bills, could say "You knew those dogs were dangerous, and thus, posted those signs."

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"The more I think about it ole Billy was right. Let's kill all the lawyers. Kill 'em tonight."
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:46:21 PM EDT
You have a gate AND signs? Good bite!
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:47:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y:


That guy is a retard.

http://e.lvme.me/3risbcx.jpg
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Originally Posted By bcauz3y:
Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
My one gun club had a problem with neighbors riding horses and ATV's on the wooded gun club property. I guess some parts would have been downrange of the trap field and rifle range. So at one of the gun club meetings I suggested putting up a fence. The gun club president was friends with the club's lawyer, and they had already talked about that. The club president said that building a fence gets you into this legal area called "attractive nuisance"...that people will climb the fence just to see what is on the other side.


That guy is a retard.

http://e.lvme.me/3risbcx.jpg


Probably, in reality, the club was just too cheap to pay to have a fence installed


And used "attractive nuisance" as a cop out answer.


Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:49:05 PM EDT
Do you have a BEWARE DOGS sign?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:50:36 PM EDT
I always give the dog people hell on here, but you did everything right. F that guy.
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:52:19 PM EDT
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People really thaw steaks? Just buy them fresh on the way home.
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Originally Posted By Freebeer:
Originally Posted By dj1975232:
Good dogs.


I would be thawing 5 steaks....


People really thaw steaks? Just buy them fresh on the way home.

Do you even hunt bro?
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 4:55:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2016 5:00:32 PM EDT
If this were a Pit Bull thread...





Link Posted: 4/19/2016 5:04:31 PM EDT
Did the trespasser guy have a pair of channel locks in one hand, and a natural gas disconnect notice in the other hand?

Maybe we can get Turboguy to inject some common sense into this thread???

Link Posted: 4/19/2016 5:05:01 PM EDT
Did you not know that a open gate means come in?

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