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Posted: 12/15/2016 5:24:12 PM EST
How much do you spend on your children's sports?

My daughter plays on a competitive softball team that doesn't even travel and I think it is expensive. You have yearly and monthly team dues. Lesson fees. Equipment cost. I usually pay out around $500 per month. It is fun to watch her play and I think that sports are an important part in a kids development so it's worth it I just try not to add up all the cost! And my son hasn't begun playing on competitive teams yet!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:25:52 PM EST
$0.00
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:26:47 PM EST
My daughter plays it.. She's 8. it adds up fast
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:27:52 PM EST
My kids play ice hockey...  Quit yer bitching.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:28:46 PM EST
You're prepaying for that college scholarship she'll get.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:30:29 PM EST
Yes Club level soccer. We spend a ton of money and I feel your pain. I am just glad we only have one.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:31:05 PM EST
Stick and ball sports are cheap. Try motorsports if you want a real wallet drainer. 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:31:47 PM EST
$800 per year for sons travel baseball PLUS ancillary fees of about $1000.

$1400 per year for daughters dance.

$400 per year daughters cheer

$150 per year daughters volleyball

$200 per year sons football

$300 per year sons basketball.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:32:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By helmet91:
My kids play ice hockey...  Quit yer bitching.
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I've heard!
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:33:18 PM EST
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My oldest daughter dances. On a travel competition team. We budget around $10K/yr for it. (and when I say "we", I mean "me" because my ex wife doesn't do a motherfucking thing to help).

Daughter#2 sings. Her lessons are $300/mo. And she plays soccer but not travel. The HS is always asking me to "sponsor" the team however.


Its still better than when they both did Irish Dance. Those dresses are thousands of dollars. Then $500 wigs. Lessons. Travel. $150 hard shoes every 3 weeks. I could go on. At least the parents were fun. We'd sit in hotel bars and get shitfaced while the kids slept upstairs!

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:33:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By helmet91:
My kids play ice hockey...  Quit yer bitching.
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I feel your pain. 2 of my three play hockey. 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:35:51 PM EST
ppppffffftttttt
Wait for the Wedding
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:38:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By n3awalk3r:
You're prepaying for that college scholarship she'll get.
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That seems to be the angle they use to get people to sign up. Or so I heard from co-workers.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:39:33 PM EST
A guy I know just bought his 12 year old two 2017 Yamaha YZ85's (one race bike and one practice). Then the suspension needs to get done, performance mods, and new safety gear. Then you have travel expenses, fuel, tires, entry fees, repairs and maintenance, etc. 

His goal is to make it to Loretta Lynn's this year. 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:39:40 PM EST
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Just don't let 'em take an interest in motocross if you want to save your wallet. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif border=0 align=middle>

^^^What the guy above me said too.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:40:28 PM EST
My neighbors daughter plays hockey. She's currently a junior in high school and committed to a D1 college hockey program this summer. He told me they spend between $10k and $15k a year depending on how many tournaments they play and how far away they are.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:41:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighLighter:
How much do you spend on your children's sports?

My daughter plays on a competitive softball team that doesn't even travel and I think it is expensive. You have yearly and monthly team dues. Lesson fees. Equipment cost. I usually pay out around $500 per month. It is fun to watch her play and I think that sports are an important part in a kids development so it's worth it I just try not to add up all the cost! And my son hasn't begun playing on competitive teams yet!
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Dude...$500 per month? Are you insane? No child's sports program is worth that much. Ever.

Originally Posted By n3awalk3r:
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ONLY IF you kid is an elite level athlete. You know in your heart if he/she is or not. Only the elite kids get scholarships.
If your kid is basically average---save the money and enroll them in martial arts. $50-75 bucks a month and you'll be a lot richer in the end
and the kid will have a useful life skill.
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Originally Posted By ontime1969:
Yes Club level soccer. We spend a ton of money and I feel your pain. I am just glad we only have one.
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This is where I am now. I went from competition dance with our daughter to club soccer with our son.

This is our lull in the action as we just finished up school soccer and then fall club soccer tournaments. Indoor club starts in January and then onto spring club.

We travel more often now than we did with dance but I think it's been easier on the wallet since we are buying 2 or 3 kits per year (plus one pair of indoor and 1-2 pair of outdoor shoes) instead of 15 costumes per year (plus 4 different types of dance shoes.) Between dance tuition and the costumes...it was major bank.

Im still not sure why the boy needs 25 different soccer balls though.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:44:38 PM EST
Lessons?  Isn't that what practice is for?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:46:34 PM EST
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Dude...$500 per month? Are you insane? No child's sports program is worth that much. Ever.
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And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:48:57 PM EST
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And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 
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Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:50:25 PM EST
$500/m??!! Kill me now.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:52:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By HighLighter:
How much do you spend on your children's sports?

My daughter plays on a competitive softball team that doesn't even travel and I think it is expensive. You have yearly and monthly team dues. Lesson fees. Equipment cost. I usually pay out around $500 per month. It is fun to watch her play and I think that sports are an important part in a kids development so it's worth it I just try not to add up all the cost! And my son hasn't begun playing on competitive teams yet!
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I'm around $10k per year. People think we are nuts. But she loves it and loves the time we spend together. I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:54:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
My oldest daughter dances. On a travel competition team. We budget around $10K/yr for it. (and when I say "we", I mean "me" because my ex wife doesn't do a motherfucking thing to help).

Daughter#2 sings. Her lessons are $300/mo. And she plays soccer but not travel. The HS is always asking me to "sponsor" the team however.


Its still better than when they both did Irish Dance. Those dresses are thousands of dollars. Then $500 wigs. Lessons. Travel. $150 hard shoes every 3 weeks. I could go on. At least the parents were fun. We'd sit in hotel bars and get shitfaced while the kids slept upstairs! <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_smartass.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Irish Dance with bankrupt you. A good buddy of mine has a daughter who competes in it. He's very, very happy she has decided she'd rather do acting in the HS drama club.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:55:10 PM EST
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My kid is two years into a full ride at a Big 12 school. As long as you are on the right select ball team it can be money well spent.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:56:10 PM EST
What till you hockey people start paying for teeth being knocked out, thats when the real fun starts.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:57:08 PM EST
We pay about $300 a season for HS marching band/drumline. Our kid likes music and marching, so that's his "sport".

I agree participating in a team activity/sport is great for a kid's development there is most certainly an element of diminishing returns for most kids. Unless a kid goes on to sports greatness, they can learn as many life skills from the JV team as they can as part of an expensive "travelling" team.
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Originally Posted By Mopseydocks6014:
Lessons?  Isn't that what practice is for?
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Not for one-on-one practice (or privates in the gymnastics world).

Dad of two gymnasts.
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I'm not a fan of baseball or softball so I'm not hyping it up when I say that they are sports that requires multiple skills and a very low margin of error. To play at a competitive level and be good it requires training that can't all be covered in team practices. Batting alone has many different aspects to it. Batting , bunting, drag bunting, slapping. Then fielding. Positions. Not to mention if the kid is a pitcher or catcher! You can't cover all that in two team practices a week.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:59:33 PM EST
My daughter played ball for seven years and it was new shoes, new gear, drive some , drive some more and spend$$$


Enjoy the time with your daughter
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 5:59:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JLH3:

I feel your pain. 2 of my three play hockey. 
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Any of them play goalie?
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:00:27 PM EST
I have twin 13 year old boys who play football. $1000 per kid per season and there are 3 season in a year. We don't even travel. It's all local. However there is always something to buy, or game snacks or Gatorade, team shirts, bags etc.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:01:57 PM EST
I know people paying thousands per kid for travel teams.

We've already agreed that our kids will be allowed to play any sports programs they want at school, and we will encourage them if they want to do something that school doesn't offer (like gymnastics, skateboarding, ATV racing) but they will be expected to help pay for it. Chores and summer work for pay to fund it if they want.

I think the people shelling out big bucks for travel teams are insane, the kids are always busy with it, the parents tend to turn into nut cases about it (because after paying a couple grand and watching the kid sit half the game, they get a little upset) and I think it helps create narcissistic athletes. The types that specialize in one thing, and perform very well during the regular school season, but aren't cross trained in other sports at all.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:03:40 PM EST
Sons Soccer is $ 2800 for the season, $500 in uniforms , $900 or so for tournaments that they go to. We are in WA. State and have tournament in Texas in March. Just did tournament in San Diego a few months ago. Do not forget the "FUN" raising! Oh it is such a delight! Fuck you and your goddamn fundraising how much to pay off the goddamn fundraising! Raffle this Raffle that pay off the Raffle tickets, it never stops. I feel like Al Bundy from Married With Children!
But he is good and scouts are looking at him now so hopefully it will pay off.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:04:15 PM EST
Glad my kid is a nerd
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:05:08 PM EST
Travel sports become a religion for a lot of people. The family's whole life revolves around it practically year round.

I have a cousin who was big into volleyball. My uncle was traveling with her most weekends to tournaments. She went to a division III private school (no athletic scholarships at that level). She quit playing after the first semesterling and dropped out of school the next and became a physical therapist.

One of my coworkers has a son who was a state champion wrestler in high school. He also competed in National tournaments every weekend. He got a division 1 scholarship. Apparently though, wrestling guys only get partial scholarships or something. After one semester he quit. He decided to focus on engineering instead. He said he didn't have time for both.

Another coworker has a son who was on travel soccer teams and went to a division 2 school to play. He also got burnt out and quit soccer after one sememster.

A friend of ours has a brother who is 6 foot 7 and was probably 270 when playing football as a lineman. He went to a division 2 school to play. One semester and done with football.

Do you see a trend here? A lot of kids burn out after 4 or 5 years of travel sports. Choose wisely.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:05:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighLighter:

I'm not a fan of baseball or softball so I'm not hyping it up when I say that they are sports that requires multiple skills and a very low margin of error. To play at a competitive level and be good it requires training that can't all be covered in team practices. Batting alone has many different aspects to it. Batting , bunting, drag bunting, slapping. Then fielding. Positions. Not to mention if the kid is a pitcher or catcher! You can't cover all that in two team practices a week.
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There is an interesting article I read about kids that specialize, and how the trainers and coaches in college level programs don't always like it.

By training the same sports and movements every season for years, they can create weak points. They argued that kids that play 3 different seasons of sports through the year tend to have a more adaptable skill set, and less weak points for injury.

Is she old enough to play varsity level sports yet? Because that would be daily practice for an entire season, for free.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:07:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:

And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 
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If the kid has the drive for it you shouldn't need to shell out thousands of dollars to create it.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:08:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:

And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 
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I think thats what Babe Ruths parents said.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:09:04 PM EST
Competitive air rifle and small bore rifle leagues. Regular travel to Camp Perry and other ranges. Now high-school soccer.

I stopped keeping track....
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:13:02 PM EST
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Not even close . !! Many kids start out playing and end up with poor lessons and injuries before they even graduate high school. A better plan would be to look at colleges within say 300 miles of where you live and look at the summer camps they do for athletes . Most every sport has them and almost every college has them ., I have a friend who has a son who did 1 year of travel soccer and then did this . He did 2 college camps at 2 different schools and ended up with a full ride .. The kid gets exposure to college coaches and players as well as the skills they are looking for . Travel ball becomes all about winning at the travel level with the salesmanship of maybe the next level . It is a dangling carrot and is expensive and hard to turn into a college scholarship . Ask for the names of 5 players that got a college ride from travel and talk to the 5 . Most get a scholarship from HS ball . The press does not cover travel ball as a rule . Travel ball seems to be ran in a way to make the organizers money . Scouts read local papers as well as visit HS games .
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If the kid has the drive for it you shouldn't need to shell out thousands of dollars to create it.
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:

And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 


<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle>

If the kid has the drive for it you shouldn't need to shell out thousands of dollars to create it.
No, but you'll need to shell out thousands of dollars to support it. 

Just as as an example, there are a bunch of pro MX racers whose parents spent $250k+ to get them to that level. 

Even in stick and ball sports, it costs a ton of money to get an athlete to the top. 
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:16:16 PM EST
Like someone said . Go racing . I work with a guy who as a kid did mini sprints on the west coast. My impression was just the car was $20,000 to run top 5 , no counting spares , tires , truck, trailer , entry fees , fuel etc. Cheap racing is still expensive . I did it for years . It makes machine guns look cheap.
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I think thats what Babe Ruths parents said.
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:

And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 


I think thats what Babe Ruths parents said.
Totally different era of athletes and skill level. 

Apples and oranges 
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That seems to be the angle they use to get people to sign up. Or so I heard from co-workers. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>
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You're prepaying for that college scholarship she'll get.



That seems to be the angle they use to get people to sign up. Or so I heard from co-workers. <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_lol.gif border=0 align=middle>


A girl my daughter played with got a scholarship to UT at Martin to play softball. She got a degree in information systems. She now works for an health insurance company in Nashville and makes a low 6 figure income.

It doesnt happen often. But it does happen.
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
My oldest daughter dances. On a travel competition team. We budget around $10K/yr for it. (and when I say "we", I mean "me" because my ex wife doesn't do a motherfucking thing to help).
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I don't have kids but I'm pretty sure competitive cheerleading is equally expensive. It was expensive as hell back in the day, and I'm sure prices have increased.
Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:20:06 PM EST
My niece played softball (they traveled for tournaments) and they spent a fortune. BIL even bought an equipment trailer.

My niece was fairly good and she got a scholarship to a small college. Then she blew out her shoulder and that was the end of that.

Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:20:55 PM EST
According to 87% of Arfcom, $87.00 is too much to pay for a nice cast iron skillet. $500.00 per month with no travel? You sure you picked the right place to disclose this information?
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
No, but you'll need to shell out thousands of dollars to support it. 

Just as as an example, there are a bunch of pro MX racers whose parents spent $250k+ to get them to that level. 

Even in stick and ball sports, it costs a ton of money to get an athlete to the top. 
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Well, to be fair, extra curricular sports are going to cost a ton no matter what. You can't just join the high school MX team, to compete in it you need the support of your family and some funding.

The average kid with good genetics and some drive though can go very far in school sports and practicing on their own, you don't need to spend thousands of dollars to support it, although the ones that do get a leg up.

As an example, my dad coaches HS soccer. The majority of his Athletes that get voted All-state or All-county (these athletes are voted on by all the other coaches) spent little or no time playing rec sports, but almost always play 3 different sports though the year, and do well at all of them.

This is an example that a kids natural drive to compete and be better will trump the kid that plays all the time, but might not have it in them to dig and win.
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And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 
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Originally Posted By hawktheslayer:

Dude...$500 per month? Are you insane? No child's sports program is worth that much. Ever.

And that's why no child of yours will ever be a champion. 

Greatness takes a lot of work and money to develop. 


Pele

"Pelé grew up in poverty in Bauru in the state of São Paulo. He earned extra money by working in tea shops as a servant. Taught to play by his father, he could not afford a proper football and usually played with either a sock stuffed with newspaper and tied with a string or a grapefruit."





Link Posted: 12/15/2016 6:31:00 PM EST
I feel your pain, I have two daughters that are multi-sport. Oldest Volleyball, Track and Softball. Youngest Volleyball, basketball, Softball and soccer. both on club/travel teams for softball and volleyball. It costs an arm and leg but they love it. It keeps them busy, out of trouble, away from video games and off the internet. The wife and I made them both a deal, As long as they keep maintaining their great grades we will continue to support their activities. in the end if it pays off with scholarships that is just a bonus. Which at this point it looks like it will for my oldest. How much? I don't know yet, but don't really care.

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