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Posted: 5/19/2001 12:30:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2001 2:15:21 AM EDT by Ulysse_Nardin_1846]
[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1402942&a=10482937&p=48741980[/img] Ya right!!!! I bought this to counter the "National Bottom Dropping Out Of The Handgun Market" which occured last month. You guys/girls really thought I'd buy a new S&W?
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 4:56:27 AM EDT
top half of it is still built by S&W
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 5:11:14 AM EDT
HALF S&W?WHATS THE OTHER HALF?RG?JUST KIDDING VERY NICE WEAPON. IM JEALOUS.[pistol]
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 5:13:02 AM EDT
That looks like a real, live WALTHER to me. Good choice.
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 5:16:18 AM EDT
The Hi-Caps are painful for us non-LEOs. [:(]
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 6:14:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 6:16:31 AM EDT
timeport, very nice!! I love Walther's. I've got 4 P99's and will be buying a 5th here soon. Rseacord, The slide and barrel are not made by S&W on this P99. timeports P99 is all Walther. S&W makes the SW99 and there was a limited run of 3000 .40 caliber P99's that had the slide and barrel made by S&W. Timeports P99 is a 9mm and definately all German. The reason there were 3000 "tops" made by S&W was that Germany was having a hard time keeping up with demand on the .40's and WaltherUSA wasn't going to get any .40's for 8 month's! So they made a decision to have a few tops made here. Who knows they may become collectors items some day. One easy way to tell if it's all German is to look for the eagle over N proof mark. Congratulations timeport! I'm sure you'll love your new Walther. I personally love the military version myself also! Devin
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 7:26:35 AM EDT
nice always wanted one just like that.
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 7:35:39 AM EDT
if you dont mind, how much does a peice of machinery liek that go for. im caught between that and a glock. what hi caps are around for it?
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 7:38:38 AM EDT
[img]http://www.theresistanceofp.homestead.com/files/undertig.gif[/img] Thats a little small compared to an AR15. Kharn (I just had to use the new smiley I found)
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 7:56:59 AM EDT
I guess i stand corrected. From all of the literature i read on both the sw99 and the P99, i was under the impression that the frames were built by Walther and the slide was built by smith&wesson. live and learn.
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 9:57:57 AM EDT
Since the Walther PPK has been replaced by the P99 for god old 007, timeport is probably in front of a mirror with his P99 across his chest chanting "Bond, James Bond".
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 10:26:58 AM EDT
what is it? I like it. ATF
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 10:50:25 AM EDT
P99 is a 9mm and definately all German.
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Was it actually "built" in Germany, or did it "originate" in Germany (much like GM autos built in Mexico or canada)? Eddie
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 11:05:10 AM EDT
Does anyone know, since S&W was bought by Saf-t-hammer, who now owns Walther? Did Saf-T-Hammer acquire it, or do the English still own it?
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 11:35:32 AM EDT
timeport: but it does look like a sigma, only green
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 12:10:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/19/2001 12:19:35 PM EDT by Oslow]
Originally Posted By mattsd: if you dont mind, how much does a peice of machinery liek that go for. im caught between that and a glock. what hi caps are around for it?
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A P99 can be had for $550-$600. The 9mm 16 rd. mags go for $75 and up! [green]You can get the P990, the DAO version for $75-100 less. [/green] [url]http://www.carlwalther.com/p99.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 3:44:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By michler: Does anyone know, since S&W was bought by Saf-t-hammer, who now owns Walther? Did Saf-T-Hammer acquire it, or do the English still own it?
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I was looking into the P99, it is a beautiful gun, but then I read in their 2000 catalog (page 3) ‘In 1999, another step was taken to bring the Walter name into the new millennium. [b]Smith & Wesson of Springfield, Massachusetts [/b] and Carl Walther GmbH of Germany announced a joint plan to form Walter USA to distribute Walter branded firearms, air guns and accessories in the United States. Walther USA is now the sole, distribution and administrative center for Walther products in the United States’. End of quote. Guys, approach it (The new S&W and any partner of theirs) very carefully In 1993 Walther merged with Umarex Sportwaffen Gmbh & Co KG
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 7:32:07 PM EDT
OK, This is what happened. Some of you may recall that Interarms use to be the importer of Walther products. When the owner of Interarms passed on, Walther got out from Interarms. Interarms did lousy job of promoting and distributing Walther products. Umarex bought Walther back in 1998. Umarex has also been supplying S&W with air guns for years. Umarex has been a big air gun maker for a long time. Anyway, the VP of S&W was at Umarex talking shop when they showed him the P99. He didn't think much of it at the time, but after it hit the market in the U.S. he went back to Germany to strike a deal with them to replace the failing Sigma line. Thus the SW99 was born. The SW99 has a Walther frame with S&W made slide and barrel. This cooperation started the ball rolling towards a distributer partnership. Walther wanted to set up their own shop, but S&W was already here and had all the facilities to handle importing the Walther line. Now I've been told that S&W does own a part of WaltherUSA. But just a part, I believe around 30%. Thus Germany has full control over what happens. When S&W signed the deal, Walther came out and said they have no intension of signing the contract. I'm sure it created some tension between the two companies. I know at the Shot Show, Walther was showing that it had nothing to do with S&W and their decisions. That WaltherUSA was its own company. I know Kimber was doing this also. S&W make the blanks for Kimber slides and maybe frames. So there you have it. Walther is too good of a company to get mixed up in what S&W did. I will admit that I am bias. I have a nice Walther collection of several of their models and love them all. Devin
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 8:08:09 PM EDT
If Walther has distanced themselves from Smith, how come they are getting harder and harder to find, especially PPK's. Most distributors use the Smith/Walther connection excuse for it. I still think Walther is too close to Smith. I hope they can get away, actualy, I hope Smith pulls thier head out of thier ass!
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 8:38:02 PM EDT
I've been hearing they are hard to find, but I haven't had a problem. In fact I saw two P99's and a PPK at the gun show today. And this was a small gun show too. It may be because they are selling so well. I do know that they are revamping the PP series (PPK/S and PPK), at least those made here in the U.S. Germany quit making the PP series pistols in 1999. Devin
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 9:09:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tuukka: Since the Walther PPK has been replaced by the P99 for god old 007, timeport is probably in front of a mirror with his P99 across his chest chanting "Bond, James Bond".
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No doubt it was Hollywood that introduced me to this weapon. Now if I could just afford that Walther sniper rifle from "The Living Daylights". Thanks 007.
Link Posted: 5/19/2001 9:15:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LS1Eddie:
P99 is a 9mm and definately all German.
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Was it actually "built" in Germany, or did it "originate" in Germany (much like GM autos built in Mexico or canada)? Eddie
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"Made In Germany". Proof marks all over the place.
Link Posted: 5/20/2001 5:45:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/20/2001 5:44:18 AM EDT by Tuukka]
Timeport, you mean this little honey: [img]http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/wa2000a.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/20/2001 6:22:06 AM EDT
Tuukka, Honey? That's the ugliest thing I've ever laid eyes on. Maybe it's the old adage of, "ugly is as ugly does." Yeah, that's it. Augie
Link Posted: 5/20/2001 4:58:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tuukka: Timeport, you mean this little honey: [img]http://www.imt.net/~mele/images/wa2000a.jpg[/img]
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This Walther Importer has one on his website for $18,000US! [url]http://www.carlwalther.com/wa2000.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 5/20/2001 5:40:03 PM EDT
That would be the LEGP for 2005. Special lower price of course.
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