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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:48:24 AM EDT
[#1]
Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:50:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter.  Nothing will happen. Well, maybe Alec will sue someone for his supposed suffering and get a payday, but nothing will happen. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:52:04 AM EDT
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I most likely own more guns than Baldwin and yet I've never killed anyone.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:55:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter. We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:58:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter. We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. Was that what happened or was he fooling around? Why did he point it at people off stage? |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:01:54 AM EDT
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Maybe YOUR guns have killed less people ....
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:02:44 AM EDT
[#7]
What a time to be alive
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:02:56 AM EDT
[#8]
The guy is a shithead but he's not the asshole here.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:03:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Channeling Chaney.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:03:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy is a shithead but he's not the asshole here. Let’s wait for the investigation. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:04:16 AM EDT
[#11]
There's a ripe opportunity for a t shirt business with this.
"Alec Baldwin has killed more people than" And finish with whatever. My AR15 My AK47 My FAL My Beretta All of my guns 99.99% of Gun Owners |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:04:46 AM EDT
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"Give me a blank Vasili, one blank only"
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:05:36 AM EDT
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I personally haven't but I have no doubt some of my guns have killed more people than Baldwin. Just depends on what kind of guns you own.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:05:49 AM EDT
[#14]
I killed more paper Tangos than you.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:07:51 AM EDT
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Is this the Baldwin that is married to a lady from Spain?
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:16:47 AM EDT
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I am sure non-gun-aware Alec and his anti-gun pals will scream for more gun control…just so this type of thing can’t happen again.
Whereas, any gun-knowledgeable person would have at least tried to double-check that the rounds and techniques in use were sound. I would have fired the prop gun against a wall beforehand to see if it at least seemed safe to fire it at a person and used offset aiming (undetectable depending on camera angle) if possible to avoid a direct shot at/into a person. Then again, if he was horsing around off-camera with a gun, well, there you go. Alas, standby for more regulations generated by people who have no idea about what they are (unsuccessfully) regulating. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:17:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:19:28 AM EDT
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Fewer.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:19:59 AM EDT
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How long til that shitstain turns this into another anti gun hit piece? FAB
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:22:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I most likely own more guns than Baldwin and yet I've never killed anyone. Yet. Time maybe coming. Maybe. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:22:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:23:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter. I need help understanding the thought that he should somehow be held criminally negligent. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:23:36 AM EDT
[#23]
OP bragging about his virgin gun.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:25:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. This. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:25:12 AM EDT
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Alec is a narcissist. I see him getting on his anti gun high horse in some kooky attempt to make restitution for his accident.
"See what can happen even under controlled circumstances supervised by professionals". So none of us flyovers have the smarts to safely handle one of those death machines. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:25:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I need help understanding the thought that he should somehow be held criminally negligent. Well clearly, as the armorer on set- all of the firearms are his responsibility. It’s not like he was just some actor being given a prop & then direction. ??????? |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:25:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I need help understanding the thought that he should somehow be held criminally negligent. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter. I need help understanding the thought that he should somehow be held criminally negligent. He wasn’t supposed to point the gun at anyone. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:25:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. legal issues aside, perhaps if actors who were going to handle guns, even though they are props, learned to shoot and handle guns safety they'd be more safe. I know if I were an actor, knowing what I know as a shooter, I'd never do what you said. I'd check everything myself before I pointed a "prop" gun at anyone. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:27:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this the Baldwin that is married to a lady from Spain? She isnt from Spain... She made it all up. She is goofier than he is. Must be a better actor too, as she had everyone convinced. Hilaria Baldwin Alec Baldwin's wife, who's accused of pretending to be from Spain, said her "deep connection to two cultures could have been better explained." Hilaria Baldwin returned to social media this week after a monthlong hiatus in an effort she said to clear up allegations that she'd appropriated elements of Spanish heritage. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:29:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well clearly, as the armorer on set- all of the firearms are his responsibility. It's not like he was just some actor being given a prop & then direction. What? He was the armorer? I haven't read that. Please enlighten. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:29:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:30:17 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fewer. 
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:30:39 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was that what happened or was he fooling around? Why did he point it at people off stage? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter. We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. Was that what happened or was he fooling around? Why did he point it at people off stage? I assume he pointed it at the camera they were operating. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:31:09 AM EDT
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Arrogant prick deserves all the negativity that will come out of this...
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:34:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:35:55 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a ripe opportunity for a t shirt business with this. "Alec Baldwin has killed more people than" And finish with whatever. My AR15 My AK47 My FAL My Beretta All of my guns 99.99% of Gun Owners I would buy a couple. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:37:08 AM EDT
[#37]
Let’s go Baldwin!
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:37:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:37:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? He was the armorer? I haven't read that. Please enlighten. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well clearly, as the armorer on set- all of the firearms are his responsibility. It's not like he was just some actor being given a prop & then direction. What? He was the armorer? I haven't read that. Please enlighten. (Sarcasm) |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:40:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (Sarcasm) Ah, didn't pick up on it. Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:40:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. I agree 100%. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:40:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume he pointed it at the camera they were operating. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Needs a poll of how many think he'll get a slap on the wrist/pay a fine or do 7 years for negligent manslaughter. We're still missing facts A prop master hands an actor a prop gun to complete a scene, the actor fully expects the prop gun to function as intended and has no intent to cause any harm. As soon as the scene is over, from what I hear these actors immediately hand the prop gun back to the prop master. There is no reason to charge the actor with anything. I would say that the prop master is the one who is looking at some form of civil penalties if it can be shown that they didn't exercise due diligence in making sure the gun was functioning as intended. Was that what happened or was he fooling around? Why did he point it at people off stage? I assume he pointed it at the camera they were operating. Did it hit the camera too? Until all the facts are in, it is way too early to absolve anyone of responsibility. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:41:24 AM EDT
[#43]
I wonder if the scene will be in the directors cut.
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:41:37 AM EDT
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Alec Baldwin is a dick, but we don't even fully have the details... There is a lot of rumor and speculation. Right now some of us are acting like BLM rush to judgement type folks.
My questions are. 1. What really happened? Live rounds? or what? I thought prop guns were supposed to be made so that they could not fire or chamber live ammo. IF not, they damn sure should be. 2. How was more than one person injured? When the firearm was fired did a (Legit or accidental/malfunction) projectile pass through the first victim, killing them, then enter the second victim sending them to the hospital? Was it Buck Shot, heard it was a western movie and often time they use shotguns. Or did he fire a 2nd time hitting the 2nd victim??? The guy in charge of prop weapons needs different policies and procedures in place to prevent shit like this from happening. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:46:47 AM EDT
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I hate anti- gunners with a passion.
I fell sorry for the guy though - he took a life and it was not supposed to happen. His mind is blown. Hollyweird needs to correct their methods in dealing with prop guns and blanks. Apparently their experts are not so expert. This is at least 2 people who died from prop guns and blanks. Maybe a 30 day waiting period for Hollyweird before touching the prop gun from time of application for using a prop gun and use the time for 30 days of training prior to even touching a prop gun. Training must be within 60 days of touching the gun for the show or movie for the first time. Training must be reaccomplished for each project and cannot carryover from one movie to the next. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:47:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I personally haven't but I have no doubt some of my guns have killed more people than Baldwin. Just depends on what kind of guns you own. I have a 1917 revolver that has been to England and back on lend lease. So who knows, right? |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:47:47 AM EDT
[#47]
what about the tranny bruce jenner that killed someone with his car a few years back?
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:47:55 AM EDT
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same, well at least since I took ownership of them
some are WW2 surplus so I can't say for sure. They probably didn't see combat as they're in good shape but you never know |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:49:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what about the tranny bruce jenner that killed someone with his car a few years back? Or President Bush's wife, who killed a friend in high school. |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 9:59:12 AM EDT
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Wonder if he had an issue with the dead person ?
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