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Posted: 3/2/2019 4:00:23 PM EDT


Got a certified letter from the new Democrat Agriculture Commissioner stating that my concealed weapons permit was indefinitely suspended because I had an injunction (restraining order) on me from 2003. I called the county clerk and they have no records of any injunctions with my name on them. Went to the CWP office to explain, they confiscated my carry permit and told me that I had to go to the courthouse and get a court certified letter that states that they have no record of any injunctions on me before they'll give it back.

You'd think the state would just call the county to confirm instead of dragging me and my rights into this. This is the new Dem commissioner who stole the position when Broward County miraculously found all of those missing dem votes.

I have a feeling Florida CWP holders are going to be in for some shit the next few years with her at the reigns.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:02:27 PM EDT
Best thing is to track down her year books from
School. Seems to be enough of that lately to keep em tied up.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:03:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stangboy555:


Got a certified letter from the new Democrat Agriculture Commissioner stating that my concealed weapons permit was indefinitely suspended because I had an injunction (restraining order) on me from 2003. I called the county clerk and they have no records of any injunctions with my name on them. Went to the CWP office to explain, they confiscated my carry permit and told me that I had to go to the courthouse and get a court certified letter that states that they have no record of any injunctions on me before they'll give it back.

You'd think the state would just call the county to confirm instead of dragging me and my rights into this. This is the new Dem commissioner who stole the position when Broward County miraculously found all of those missing dem votes.

I have a feeling Florida CWP holders are going to be in for some shit the next few years with her at the reigns.
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Feature, not bug
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:03:18 PM EDT
He only stole it if people cared or didn't want him elected.

Judging by the crickets and lack of response he must be what the people want.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:04:33 PM EDT
Wow.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:04:55 PM EDT
All part of the plan
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:07:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
He only stole it if people cared or didn't want him elected.

Judging by the crickets and lack of response he must be what the people want.
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"She". And the only person in any position to do anything was more worried about his own ass.

Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:07:38 PM EDT
I knew she was going to pull crap like this.
Good luck OP.
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Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:09:53 PM EDT
Only thing to do is to head down to the courthouse, explain the situation, and see what they can do for you unfortunately
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:10:04 PM EDT
Not possible
He has the NRA stamp of approval.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:10:31 PM EDT
Did you actually have any issues involving the court in 2003?

I ask because I know someone that had an issue pop up a decade after the fact (some sort of reclassification).
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:11:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By david05111:
Only thing to do is to head down to the courthouse, explain the situation, and see what they can do for you unfortunately
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It's an easy fix, I'm gonna go on Monday and have them write up and court seal a letter then drop it off at the CWP office. It's just a PITA and they're making me do all the legwork on their bullshit.

I've had my permit for 12 years now, I also had an FFL along the way. Pulling this shit out of thin air is bullshit.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:11:56 PM EDT
@miami_JBT
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:12:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
He only stole it if people cared or didn't want him elected.

Judging by the crickets and lack of response he must be what the people want.
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She stole that seat while all the bullshit recounting over Senator and governor was ongoing.
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The resemblance is uncanny
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:13:51 PM EDT
You're lucky they didn't want to take your guns...just in case
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:13:55 PM EDT
If someone has an expired RO it is still a DQ for a Florida CCW?
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:13:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stangboy555:

It's an easy fix, I'm gonna go on Monday and have them write up and court seal a letter then drop it off at the CWP office. It's just a PITA and they're making me do all the legwork on their bullshit.

I've had my permit for 12 years now, I also had an FFL along the way. Pulling this shit out of thin air is bullshit.
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Yeah, I know. I feel for you man. Gigantic pain in the ass
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:14:15 PM EDT
They are hoping you wont fight it and just quit carrying
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:15:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By toastandjam:
All part of the plan
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Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:15:32 PM EDT
Love how they make you prove your innocence instead of showing you the documentation justifying the suspension.

If it ends up being their mistake I would post and publish the error to protect the next guy. Too bad the person making the error doesn't get suspended themselves.

Good luck OP!
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:16:15 PM EDT
She got the the crazy face. Bitch be scary yo.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:17:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stangboy555:

It's an easy fix, I'm gonna go on Monday and have them write up and court seal a letter then drop it off at the CWP office. It's just a PITA and they're making me do all the legwork on their bullshit.

I've had my permit for 12 years now, I also had an FFL along the way. Pulling this shit out of thin air is bullshit.
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They have it now. Let’s see how long it takes for you to get it back.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:18:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By juan223:
If someone has an expired RO it is still a DQ for a Florida CCW?
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I believe you have to wait 3 years to apply, same for DUI.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:19:15 PM EDT
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Should be required reading and it accurately describes OP's plight.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:19:27 PM EDT
Land of the Free
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:20:01 PM EDT
You've been "Fried".
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:22:12 PM EDT
They are being dicks on purpose. They probably did that to as many people as they could without raising suspicions.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:22:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stangboy555:
This is the new Dem commissioner who stole the position when Broward County miraculously found all of those missing dem votes.
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That really sucked. Democrats almost stole the entire fucking state out from under you guys. Sorry to hear you are being screwed with.
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Originally Posted By stangboy555:

It's an easy fix, I'm gonna go on Monday and have them write up and court seal a letter then drop it off at the CWP office. It's just a PITA and they're making me do all the legwork on their bullshit.

I've had my permit for 12 years now, I also had an FFL along the way. Pulling this shit out of thin air is bullshit.
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Once it’s straightened out sue ‘em. Democrat tactics.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:26:51 PM EDT
Sue
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:27:36 PM EDT
They will accept that court letter from you then take years to "verify" with the court its authenticity....
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:29:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:
Sue
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Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:32:55 PM EDT
Surprised they didn't "red flag" you.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:32:58 PM EDT
I bet you they charge you to fix their fuckup.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:33:33 PM EDT
That's why I don't respond to certified letters.
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Originally Posted By stangboy555:

I believe you have to wait 3 years to apply, same for DUI.
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Fucked up,. Seeing as one is a conviction and the other is typically a rubber stamp from a scared judge.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:34:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stangboy555:


Got a certified letter from the new Democrat Agriculture Commissioner stating that my concealed weapons permit was indefinitely suspended because I had an injunction (restraining order) on me from 2003. I called the county clerk and they have no records of any injunctions with my name on them. Went to the CWP office to explain, they confiscated my carry permit and told me that I had to go to the courthouse and get a court certified letter that states that they have no record of any injunctions on me before they'll give it back.

You'd think the state would just call the county to confirm instead of dragging me and my rights into this. This is the new Dem commissioner who stole the position when Broward County miraculously found all of those missing dem votes.

I have a feeling Florida CWP holders are going to be in for some shit the next few years with her at the reigns.
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Might have been one was taken out against you but service was never effected on you. There would be a record of sorts of one being sworn but no "return of service" or "return of writ". I'm not familiar with Florida laws but where I live, those expire after a given period of time unless they're reissued and that might be the case here. Good luck.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:34:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stangboy555:
It's an easy fix, I'm gonna go on Monday and have them write up and court seal a letter then drop it off at the CWP office. It's just a PITA and they're making me do all the legwork on their bullshit.

I've had my permit for 12 years now, I also had an FFL along the way. Pulling this shit out of thin air is bullshit.
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Originally Posted By stangboy555:
Originally Posted By david05111:
Only thing to do is to head down to the courthouse, explain the situation, and see what they can do for you unfortunately
It's an easy fix, I'm gonna go on Monday and have them write up and court seal a letter then drop it off at the CWP office. It's just a PITA and they're making me do all the legwork on their bullshit.

I've had my permit for 12 years now, I also had an FFL along the way. Pulling this shit out of thin air is bullshit.
If a pattern can be established, the AG could go after her criminally for harassment/ intimidation or misconduct in office. You have to be willing to fight back or just accept it.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:35:33 PM EDT
Inalienable

Not subject to sale or transfer; inseparable.

That which is inalienable cannot be bought, sold, or transferred from one individual to another. The personal rights to life and liberty guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States are inalienable.


They only have perceived power, all that goes away when the people decide their inalienable rights are more important and take the power back. Freedom and Liberty are scary things to many people, hence the reason why we're in this mess right now.

The people that actually give a shit about liberty are too law-abiding to do what's really needed and "they" know that. Eventually, they'll make us all outlaws and then balance will be restored.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:37:35 PM EDT
Did you have an issue back in 2003? I don't believe an old issue cleared up should be a problem, just trying to understand how this came up at all.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:39:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ricko1:
They are hoping you wont fight it and just quit carrying
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Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:40:34 PM EDT
Did you have a restraining order against you?
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Did you have a restraining order against you?
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I had some problems with some people back then, but no restraining orders that I know of.

Even then, my 2007 application was approved, my 2017 renewal was approved and I had an FFL approved in 2008.
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:42:30 PM EDT
this sounds like the IRS and the Tea Party
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Originally Posted By thecapn2004:
They will accept that court letter from you then take years to "verify" with the court its authenticity....
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I would expect this to happen
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:45:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 6SJ7GT:
Surprised they didn't "red flag" you.
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Fucking scary and could still happen
Link Posted: 3/2/2019 4:45:33 PM EDT
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