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Posted: 9/30/2014 12:41:24 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:42:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By brass:
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OLYMPIA, Wash., Sept. 29 (UPI) -- Mount Saint Helens is showing signs of reawakening as a preamble to erupting, reports the USGS ten years after the last sign of volcanic activity.

USGS reveled new technology to monitor the volcano's activity and mentioned it is seeing the precursors to eruption. The lava dome hasn't erupted since 2008, but is showing signs that the magma chamber responsible for eruptions is "recharging."
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Fuck
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:44:11 AM EST
I remember when it woke up in 2004. The whole high school gathered to watch out the windows.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:44:48 AM EST
Meh I have seen some of the small eruptions in the early 2000's I grew up in the shadow of that mountain. My family experienced the big eruption. unless you are within 10 miles from it you should not be afraid. Now mt Rainier is a bigger concern. when it goes expect over a hundred thousand dead.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:44:52 AM EST
That can't be good...
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:46:45 AM EST
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Small eruptions, good. Big eruptions, bad.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:46:52 AM EST
Ruh Roh
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:47:45 AM EST
Jeez, not again. Could be worse, Rainier is the one I'm worried about, when that goes this place is going to be fucked.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:52:34 AM EST
I'm ready

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:53:38 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:55:15 AM EST
I lived through the first one , I say "Bring it"

Of coarse, I'm not down stream.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 12:56:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JDtalon:
Meh I have seen some of the small eruptions in the early 2000's I grew up in the shadow of that mountain. My family experienced the big eruption. unless you are within 10 miles from it you should not be afraid. Now mt Rainier is a bigger concern. when it goes expect over a hundred thousand dead.
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Yeah Rainier will kill a lot of people when it goes.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:00:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
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http://imageshack.com/a/img674/853/4uJSBW.jpg
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... What are we looking at exactly?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:01:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By brass:
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OLYMPIA, Wash., Sept. 29 (UPI) -- Mount Saint Helens is showing signs of reawakening as a preamble to erupting, reports the USGS ten years after the last sign of volcanic activity.

USGS reveled new technology to monitor the volcano's activity and mentioned it is seeing the precursors to eruption. The lava dome hasn't erupted since 2008, but is showing signs that the magma chamber responsible for eruptions is "recharging."
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I would puke too if i know who was "in charge"

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:02:10 AM EST
I was a kid coming down the mountains in eastern Washington on a Honda CR80 when it blew in 1980.

I remember these strange clouds coming from the west. They were just huge, across the whole horizon.
Then the ash started falling and it was pitch dark at 4 in the afternoon...like the end of the world as far as a 10 year old kid was concerned.

Turned on the tv and saw what had happened.

Something I will never forget.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:02:22 AM EST
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I remember when she blew her top in 1980. Dark billowing clouds rolled in. Our street lights came on from 200 miles away. I thought the Russians just nuked us.


Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:03:28 AM EST
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... What are we looking at exactly?
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
I'm ready

http://imageshack.com/a/img674/853/4uJSBW.jpg

... What are we looking at exactly?

The WSP rigged the cars to pull air from the interior of their cruisers - Dad ruined our VW bug when I was kid because he drove in the ash.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:04:39 AM EST
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... What are we looking at exactly?
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
I'm ready

http://imageshack.com/a/img674/853/4uJSBW.jpg

... What are we looking at exactly?

I believe that those tubes take air from inside the car and are routed to the air intake of the police car to limit intake of ash into the engine. That pic is from the last big eruption of Mt. St. Helens
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:05:28 AM EST
OfHappenings.jpg?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:11:14 AM EST
Well...... been wanting to kayak the Toutle river. An eruption would bump it up a notch.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:12:11 AM EST
I wasn't born yet for 1980... My family was living in Washington at the time I believe and moved to Oregon shortly after.

what's this about 2004 or 2008? I don't remember it doing anything at all then. For as long as I can remember the lava dome was building back up.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:17:41 AM EST
I watched it go up in 1980... the height of the ash cloud was unbelievable... the way it roiled up it was almost as if you were looking at something that was alive... it was something that a video will never do justice to..
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:19:39 AM EST
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I look at the mountain every day from my front porch (about 40 miles from my place). It's easy to tell when it's doing something from the many cars parked along side of the highway with folks pointing their camera phones that way.





A good friend was a kid the last time it erupted. Him and a buddy made good money cleaning out ash from peoples gutters before they fell off the house. Right up until they were told to stop because they didn't have a permit.


Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:22:15 AM EST
I hiked up Monitor Ridge to the summit in 2008
you could hear boulders rolling off the lava dome as it rised
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:31:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 1:32:11 AM EST

I was in Germany that day in 1980...one of my buddies came up and said "ain't you from Washington"?

"Yeah, what about it?"

"It just blew up."

Well, fuck


I reckon if one of the Cascade volcanoes wants to get frisky, St. Helens is probably the least dangerous, along with Mt Adams.

Mt. Rainier, though...



Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:51:05 AM EST
Mt. Saint Helens, before and after pix:





I guess this is the new lava dome:

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:39:27 AM EST
I lived in Hillsboro, Or when the big eruption happened. I was about 5 y/o at the time but I remember standing in our driveway and seeing this enormous mushroom cloud.

I walked to kindergarten with a particulate mask on for weeks, trudging through ash that seemed to be as deep as I was tall. To this day you can still find ash in rain gutters of houses that were around at that time.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:42:36 AM EST
I will admit my ignorance on why Rainier is dangerous. So why are folks in WA more afraid of Rainier than Helens?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:45:27 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Porterhouse83:
I will admit my ignorance on why Rainier is dangerous. So why are folks in WA more afraid of Rainier than Helens?
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closer to the cities
MSH is pretty remote
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:54:48 AM EST
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Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier


Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:15:26 AM EST
How's Yellowstone doing?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:22:03 AM EST
You want small eruptions occasionally to bleed off pressure inside the volcano.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:24:30 AM EST
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Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier


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Originally Posted By PNWRN:
Originally Posted By Porterhouse83:
I will admit my ignorance on why Rainier is dangerous. So why are folks in WA more afraid of Rainier than Helens?


Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier




Geez, you learn something new every day. That's one hell of a scenario.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:26:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PNWRN:


Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier


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Originally Posted By PNWRN:
Originally Posted By Porterhouse83:
I will admit my ignorance on why Rainier is dangerous. So why are folks in WA more afraid of Rainier than Helens?


Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier





When I was stationed at Fort Lewis we had occasional drills on what to do if there was an eruption on rainier. Basically, it came down to put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

The pyroclastic flow would annihilate everything in its path with almost no warning or time to get the fuck out of the way.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:31:41 AM EST
Magma...
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:34:02 AM EST
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Geez, you learn something new every day. That's one hell of a scenario.
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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
Originally Posted By PNWRN:
Originally Posted By Porterhouse83:
I will admit my ignorance on why Rainier is dangerous. So why are folks in WA more afraid of Rainier than Helens?


Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier




Geez, you learn something new every day. That's one hell of a scenario.


Rainer eruption = all the glaciers in the affected area will melt, mix with the particulate form the eruption and make a nasty mud mix with trees and whatever else the water picks up on the way down the mountain. Anyone in low lying areas will be in a world of shit.

Similar to this


Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:35:11 AM EST
Peak pantyhose air filters.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:38:13 AM EST
St. Helen's going again would suck. Rainer going would be much worse. I might even get cooked where I live, but the lahar would not get me.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:38:27 AM EST
I'm gonna go see this shit
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:42:03 AM EST
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Kharn
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:56:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JDtalon:
Meh I have seen some of the small eruptions in the early 2000's I grew up in the shadow of that mountain. My family experienced the big eruption. unless you are within 10 miles from it you should not be afraid. Now mt Rainier is a bigger concern. when it goes expect over a hundred thousand dead.
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The caldera under Yellowstone would be more...errr..."fun"...




Link Posted: 9/30/2014 5:10:04 AM EST
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Geez, you learn something new every day. That's one hell of a scenario.
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Originally Posted By Conspiro-Agnew:
Originally Posted By PNWRN:
Originally Posted By Porterhouse83:
I will admit my ignorance on why Rainier is dangerous. So why are folks in WA more afraid of Rainier than Helens?


Basically, it's close to a major metro area, it has huge amounts of glacial ice on it, and sub-glacial water movement circulates acidic water, which turns the volcanic rock into clay.

Mt Rainier is also dangerous because it doesn't need to erupt to cause a major disaster. A giant lahar could happen as a result of a minor quake, or just because gravity sucks.

Mt. Rainier




Geez, you learn something new every day. That's one hell of a scenario.



More reading, if you're interested. Mt. Rainier Lahars

It's nice here, no poisonous snakes, no tornadoes, mild weather...

...but it comes at a cost.

We are also subject to the occasional mega-earthquake/tsunami... Cascadis Subduction Zone

Be sure to check out t he link to the 1700 quake.




Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:11:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Porterhouse83:
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As others said, not as remote, and a whoooole lot more people and cities on 20 (give or take 10) foot deep mudflows from it's prior eruptions.

Best analogy (blown out of proportion or not?) I got off the top of my head would be; St Helens damage and fatalities (27 people iirc) as a row-boat sinking compared to Rainier being the Titanic sinking.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:13:07 PM EST
Spirit Lake still looks like Oatmeal! It's going to be awesome.


As far as Rainier... Meh. Meh I say. I live on a hill. If the massive mudslides even get to me, what am I going to do? Just weather it I guess...
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:13:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:15:22 PM EST
Ring of fire!
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:16:58 PM EST
Call me when the Kraken awakens.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:17:36 PM EST
Crazy.

Hope nothing big happens.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:18:34 PM EST
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WTF is that?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:18:35 PM EST
Damn nature, you scary!
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