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Posted: 9/11/2010 11:05:12 PM EDT
How do you address a divorced, single woman.........Ms. or Mrs. ?
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"Ms." Implies adult non-married female.
Miss for a young lady. |
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In writing, I use "Ms." for all females unless corrected. When speaking, I use "Ma'am" for all females unless corrected.
We're told to do it this way at work, anyway. |
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In writing, I use "Ms." for all females unless corrected. When speaking, I use "Ma'am" for all females unless corrected. We're told to do it this way at work, anyway. yes, but you should use senator |
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When speaking in a profesional environment, unless I know a person's rank or acedemic degree (Lt. Smith, Dr. Jones), I will ALWAYS use Ms. (Mr. Doe) unless the woman is clearly a teen, in which case I will use Miss. Professionally, I do not use first names except with immediate coworkers.
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"Ms." Implies adult non-married female. Miss for a young lady. Actually, Ms. is the only Mary useful thing the feminists gave us. Miss is (and was traditionally) used for all unmarried women (Widows kept Mrs.). In the 70's, Gloria Stienham's bunch came up with Ms. to eliminate the married/unmarried distrinction. As a functional matter, it took care of any confusion when addressing someone who's maritial status isn't known to you. That is probably why Jinxster uses Ms. also. What we need though is the married version of "nee". Mary Smith (nee Jones) to identified that Mary Jones married Mr. Smith, However, there is no convention for identifying former married names. If Mary Smith gets divorced and goes back to Jones, how do you identify that Mary Jones was formerly known as Mary Smith? In today's society, we need something for that. |
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Ms. for everyone their husband is present, usually.
I just don't care enough to do any better. |
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How u durrin? I just leave off the titles at this point. Names only. |
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What we need though is the married version of "nee". Mary Smith (nee Jones) to identified that Mary Jones married Mr. Smith, However, there is no convention for identifying former married names. If Mary Smith gets divorced and goes back to Jones, how do you identify that Mary Jones was formerly known as Mary Smith? In today's society, we need something for that. While I understand your point, my response to that is THE FUCK WE DO!!!! I went through a lot of hell and a lot of great personal pain and expense to get divorced and regain my maiden name and get myself distanced from a truly horrible part of my life. I don't want it still tagging along after me!!!!!!! |
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How u durrin? I just leave off the titles at this point. Names only. I tend to do likewise, but mainly because I am just plain sick and tired of having to remember the title of the week. An example of this is the number of changes I have seen in my lifetime in the terms I have seen used in referring to Blacks. Colored>Negroes>Black>Person of color>African Americans. What's next? I use the term 'Black' and if anyone doesn't like it, well Tango Sierra. I can think of any number of slurs to use if it will make you happy. I generally use names unless there is a bona fide title that was earned, like Dr. or a military rank A couple of years ago some little 23 year old twerp tried to bring me up short for using her first name that was on her name tag. She wanted to be addressed as "Ms." whatever. So how come her name was on the damned tag? Why didn't it say 'Ms. Whatever?" I simply replied, " Whaddya, ashamed of yer name? I'm troo wit choo." and got someone else to take care of me. I'm generally very respectful, but I can not handle bullshit formalities of the week very well. Most of it is just plain stupid. |
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Offer to let her ride your disco stick and show her you po po po poker face.
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I just leave off the titles at this point. Names only. That's the safest way, I think. My sister and MIL are both "Ms." My mother does not use a title. When I was divorced, I used no title, as I hate "Ms." with a passion. It's ok if someone uses it because they don't know, but to use it yourself because "my marital status is none of anyone's business" just frosts my Cheerios. (Same goes with women who won't take their husband's name.) When I was single, I was a Miss, now that I am married, I am a Mrs. and I have NEVER been a Ms. I guess I'm old fashioned that way (and quite a few other ways.) I don't make a big deal if someone calls me Ms. when we're speaking, but if someone puts "Ms." in writing (like on a nametag, in an article in print, etc.) I will correct them. |
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I think we are getting some redundant answers here but I have a different question along the same line: Is it out of the ordinary or unacceptable for a divorcee to still go by "Mrs. Soandso"? (soandso being the name of the man). |
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I think we are getting some redundant answers here but I have a different question along the same line:
Is it out of the ordinary or unacceptable for a divorcee to still go by "Mrs. Soandso"? (soandso being the name of the man). No, that's the way it ALWAYS was before Ms. came into the picture. The woman couldn't go back to Miss because she was no longer an "unspoiled maiden"! LOL |
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I never understood why the hell we needed Mrs, Ms, Miss...
Why not just one same as for men? Why do we need to know that Jane Doe is married by using Mrs? Or that Jenny Doe is a teenager by using Miss? I suppose it is left over from high society of the 1800s, but in modern times why continue with it? Make it Mr. for men, Ms. for women, and Wtf. for some of the other creatures that stalk WallyWorld late at night. |
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Didn't Scarlet O'Hara use all of her husbands last names all the time?
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I agree with most of what Piccolo said. I don't use Ms., and when I was interrupted to be told I should, I just shook my head and left.
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I never understood why the hell we needed Mrs, Ms, Miss... Why not just one same as for men? Why do we need to know that Jane Doe is married by using Mrs? Or that Jenny Doe is a teenager by using Miss? I suppose it is left over from high society of the 1800s, but in modern times why continue with it? Make it Mr. for men, Ms. for women, and Wtf. for some of the other creatures that stalk WallyWorld late at night. I concur. |
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Bitch
Actually, I pretty much address all women as "ma'am." Really freaks out the minimum wage workers. |
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Ms. soandso if that is all I know or their first name if that is all I know.
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Poll Fail
Miss is an unmarried woman, period. Mrs. is a married woman. Ms. ("mizz") is a 70's feminist contrivance. |
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Ms is Mizz (rhymes with Jizz)
Mrs is only for married women. Miss is proper, they are not married. |
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Ma'am. this, thats a pretty safe bet for all members of the fairer sex |
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