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Posted: 4/29/2001 1:04:33 PM EST
Who is (in your opinion) the most influential gun guru?  I think maybe Jeff Copper, although I don't agree with everything he says.  Let me know how you feel.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 1:06:57 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/29/2001 1:12:51 PM EST
[#2]
Rambo????  The guy who played the character is just another draft dodging coward, like Klinton.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 2:27:58 PM EST
[#3]
Of the people you would know of Jeff Cooper, The most infuential in my career is Jeff Hall. He waxed a badguy out of a Jet Ranger (with an M-16)that was crabbing towards a badguys hide after the badguy shot and killed his partner sitting next to him. He is a warrior and has the ability to pass on lessons learned.

BTW he teaches at Frontsight and Gunsite now that he is retired.

Hunter out...
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 2:28:32 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/29/2001 2:32:11 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/29/2001 2:36:01 PM EST
[#6]
Yeah, I'd have to go with Jeff Cooper, with Elmer Keith a close second, at least in the handgun department. Ed McGivern seems to have fallen out of favor with the decline of the revolver and rise of the polymer, laser sighted, tac lighted 9's and .40's, but that old guy could shoot better and faster than almost anyone I can think of!
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 2:46:44 PM EST
[#7]
maybe not a gun GURU but I would have to say BOSTON T.PARTY ( Boston,s Gun BIBIE )or JOHN ROSS
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 3:07:28 PM EST
[#8]
Duncan Long

He has a bunch of great books on all sorts of firearms.

Including a few really good AR15/M16 books.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 3:12:34 PM EST
[#9]
My vote goes to - Col. Jeff Cooper USMCRet [+]:D]

[sniper]
The Sniper
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 3:43:53 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/29/2001 3:44:25 PM EST
[#11]
Jeff Cooper, Elmer Keith, Skeeter Skelton, Jim Carmichal, take your pick.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 4:06:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:01:22 PM EST
[#13]
gunkid
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:13:30 PM EST
[#14]
My dad, no doubt about it. He's the one who got me interested, relayed to me the  importance of the second amendment, and most importantly, how to handle firearms in a safe manner.
No other big names have had nearly as much influence on me when it comes to guns as him.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:15:20 PM EST
[#15]
My dad, no doubt about it. He's the one who got me interested, relayed to me the  importance of the second amendment, and most importantly, how to handle firearms in a safe manner.
No other big names have had nearly as much influence on me when it comes to guns as him.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:21:44 PM EST
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I just noticed I misspelled Cooper on my first post, sorry.  I see no takers for Massad Ayoob.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:22:42 PM EST
[#17]
John M Browning.........John C Garand...................[shotgun]
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:26:32 PM EST
[#18]
Quoted:
Duncan Long

He has a bunch of great books on all sorts of firearms.

Including a few really good AR15/M16 books.
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Duncan LONG?

You gotta be kidding me!

[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=6667[/url]
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:29:05 PM EST
[#19]
BTW, my answer has to the Colonel. Cooper is very opinionated, and I don't always agree with him, but his New Pistolcraft alone was a boon.

He is wrong about the "poodleshooter", though.

Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:40:49 PM EST
[#20]
Trick shot artist Bob Munden who is featured regularly on American Shooter, really funny and a pretty good shot!!
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 5:57:34 PM EST
[#21]
I'm with B&G, John Browning.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 6:05:14 PM EST
[#22]
Originally Posted By no ma''am:
I just noticed I misspelled Cooper on my first post, sorry.  I see no takers for Massad Ayoob.
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                                                No offense to massad, but there are people on this board who could keep up with him i believe.....anyone heard of a guy named bill jordan?.........[pistol]
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 6:11:08 PM EST
[#23]
I like Cooper because he pisses me off. I still would rather take my M1A Scout on a scouting mission than his overpriced plastic POS. (He is probably right, because he has much more experience than me.)
I also like Ayoob, he seems to be very analytical and use real life scenarios to teach.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 6:17:51 PM EST
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Another "guru" IMHO is Bill Jordan if your talking Old School. His articles about working Border Patrol are classic.
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Damn, Striker, you're right (slap to forehead!) Must be Alzheimers setting in early. [;)] Bill Jordan was/is "dabomb" (yeah, I know that's outta date too, but WTF)....Man knew his shit.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 7:05:21 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/29/2001 8:21:26 PM EST
[#26]
in my opinion:
Jeff Cooper
Bill Ruger
Clint Smith
Gadston Glock
Gabe Suarez and Jeff Gonzales (HALO group)
Bill Laughridge
Bill Wilson
.....just to name a few. There are so many new young guys out there doing really impressive things with handguns, rifles, and handling technique. One very fine example of new rising talent can be seen at www.blackholeguns.com. These guys are machining some really beautiful guns in their shop.
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 9:14:38 PM EST
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I vote for Elmer...


[img]http://www.looneycartoons.com/looneydonotleech/elmer/ElmerFudd005.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 10:22:16 PM EST
[#28]
LMAOROTL
Link Posted: 4/29/2001 10:46:14 PM EST
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Link Posted: 4/30/2001 4:31:36 PM EST
[#30]
Elmer Keith, Skeeter Skelton, John Taffin, Bob Munden, Bill Jordan.
Link Posted: 4/30/2001 7:46:48 PM EST
[#31]
John M Browning gets my first vote. Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan, Jeff Cooper are way up on the list too.
Finnbear out
Link Posted: 4/30/2001 8:16:50 PM EST
[#32]
Ayoob would be who I called (in a New York minute) to be on my defense team if I was involved in a shooting that landed me in court.

I have sat beside him in many classes and as far as a gun guru (training type) I think I am a better instructor.


Hunter out...
Link Posted: 4/30/2001 11:21:30 PM EST
[#33]
Mikhail Kalashnikov
Jim Clark Sr
Mr UZI
Link Posted: 4/30/2001 11:29:57 PM EST
[#34]
Quoted:
Another "guru" IMHO is Bill Jordan if your talking Old School. His articles about working Border Patrol are classic.
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Bill Jordan's patrol methods would get him severly flamed by the "patriots" on this board. In fact he devotes alot of print in one of his books to the "throw down" gun. So I'm surprised to see him mentioned.
Link Posted: 5/1/2001 1:24:38 AM EST
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Elmer Keith, Massad Ayoob.
Link Posted: 5/1/2001 1:41:16 AM EST
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In the recent period of modern arms development, it would be tough to beat Bill Ruger. One lemon to his credit, but I wish I had a few of them.
Link Posted: 5/1/2001 4:55:10 AM EST
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Link Posted: 5/1/2001 5:34:53 AM EST
[#38]
FrankTheSpank
Link Posted: 5/1/2001 6:28:59 PM EST
[#39]
Bill Jordan's patrol methods would get him severly flamed by the "patriots" on this board. In fact he devotes alot of print in one of his books to the "throw down" gun.
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Now, Bill Jordan was an Old Old School cop. "Don't leave home without your throwdown" Lawdawg!(to paraphrase some credit card commercial)....If those NYC cops that had popped Diullo or whatever his name was, had read Jordan's book, would have saved themselves a lot of problems and money on legal fees.
Link Posted: 5/1/2001 6:32:31 PM EST
[#40]
Browning
Garand
Stoner
Mauser
Luger
Ruger
Great gun designers, engineers, machinists, but don't recall any books, articles they ever wrote about using the fruit of their genius...
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