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Posted: 12/25/2005 5:53:58 PM EDT
Was curious what the most fuel effiecent car out there with a gas engine you'd drive.

Isn't there a Honda Civic that gets exceptional gas mileage? I don't know the model number (DX, HX, ????).

Anybody got any info on this? Thanks.

vmax84
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:59:23 PM EDT
Most efficient car that I would drive is my wife's Ford Freestyle wagon. Gets about 25mi to gal and is not all that small, will not drive a motorized rollerskate like some of the hybrids that are out there. Was involved in a car crash when I was younger and was in an import, not a good experience.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:00:32 PM EDT
I hate driving the honda I have driven, I dont drive enough for it to be a factor.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:00:36 PM EDT
My 1994 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. I get about 24MPG if I keep it below 75MPH. It's full-frame, runs low 15's, weighs 4500lbs and it's the longest car since the '70s.

'nuff said.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:00:42 PM EDT
C5 Corvette. 18/28 mpg.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:16:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
C5 Corvette. 18/28 mpg.


Hmm... how scared I am depends on who's driving.

Though, my '86 Grand National is a tin-can in comparison to my Cadillac. It feels like a go-kart after driving the Caddy. The funny thing is, it's still way, way more car than anything made today with two doors!

My friend has a Geo Metro. I don't know if I could do it. It was so bumpy on the highway that my back hurt after an hour long trip (though, that trip cost him half what it would have cost me!) Definitely a sweet car for city driving, but it's scarey. Metal is good, metal is nice.

My '97 Saturn SC2 got about 32MPG while delivering pizzas for two years. That thing KICKED ASS, but you're never really safe in something that small. Any mid to large SUV would have hit me in the shoulders if T-boned. There isn't much metal to protect you in a 2500lb car. It rode somewhat nicely for it's size, and it was super-reliable for the 30,000 miles I had it (from 125,000 to 155,000 miles). The trade of a mere 8MPG from 32 to 24MPG was WELL worth it for the safety, luxury, utility, room and power of the Cadillac. Best 8MPG I ever spent. Oh, and it cost me less than $1000 more than what I sold my Saturn for!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:21:44 PM EDT
BMW M3 20/32
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:23:05 PM EDT
My 98 regal get 30 MPG consistantly. Why the hell would I drive a smaller car with the same or worse milage?

BTW I am very impressed with a POS saturn and how it can hold up in an accident. I've seen some doozies and tho the vehicle was destroyed, the driver walked away everytime. A few cops I know seconded the saturns results in a T/A. Quite a strong space frame that the panels hang on.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:30:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
My 98 regal get 30 MPG consistantly. Why the hell would I drive a smaller car with the same or worse milage?

BTW I am very impressed with a POS saturn and how it can hold up in an accident. I've seen some doozies and tho the vehicle was destroyed, the driver walked away everytime. A few cops I know seconded the saturns results in a T/A. Quite a strong space frame that the panels hang on.


My dad T-boned someone with my first Saturn. It crumpled the front end, but it's the side-impacts that scare me. To be honest, my saturn only had a little less room between me and the door than my Cadillac does currently, but there's a ton more metal there, including a big freaking frame-rail.

I want room between me and whatever might hit me, and if I can't have room between it, I want metal... lots of metal. A fullsized car has more of both. Side air-bags might help, but nothing is a replacement for metal. Metal keeps the thing from caving in on me... the side air-bag just makes it do less damage to me when it DOES cave in on me.

The funny thing is, my friend's Geo Metro seems VERY big inside considering how small the car is, but then, when you look at how narrow the car is, the idea of getting T-boned is scarey as hell.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:38:47 PM EDT
I drive a 1980 Mercedes turbo diesel with 198 k on the clock that gets 30MPG and has a 45 gallon tank

4700 lbs dry weight

Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:39:57 PM EDT

06 Corrola
upwards of 38 mpg.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:44:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
I drive a 1980 Mercedes turbo diesel with 198 k on the clock that gets 30MPG and has a 45 gallon tank

4700 lbs dry weight



Hey... he said "gas"!

Heh... that's badass. Though, something tells me getting on the freeway is hell at 4700lbs and diesel.

Someday, if I don't wreck my car before the engine dies (typically around 250-400k), I'll drop in either a 350 Olds Diesel or a 6.1 Diesel into my Fleetwood.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:47:42 PM EDT
My dad drove a Ford Festiva(similar to a Geo Metro) for a few years, my sister drove one in college.

not the one we had.

It gets about 40 mpg from a 1.3L 64 hp four banger.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:48:28 PM EDT
Olds Cutlass Cieras seem to live forever, dunno how good the mileage is though
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:51:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MlTCHELL:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
I drive a 1980 Mercedes turbo diesel with 198 k on the clock that gets 30MPG and has a 45 gallon tank

4700 lbs dry weight



Hey... he said "gas"!

Heh... that's badass. Though, something tells me getting on the freeway is hell at 4700lbs and diesel.

Someday, if I don't wreck my car before the engine dies (typically around 250-400k), I'll drop in either a 350 Olds Diesel or a 6.1 Diesel into my Fleetwood.



Dad had (hijacking my own thread ) a 1982 Olds 98 diesel. He knew how to drive it without wrecking the engine. Great car.........heavy, right around 30mpg on the highway.......fun boat to drive.

vmax84
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:58:03 PM EDT
Ford Focus wagon (plenty of room for guns) and it gets about 32 mpg on average.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:04:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By vmax84:

Originally Posted By MlTCHELL:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
I drive a 1980 Mercedes turbo diesel with 198 k on the clock that gets 30MPG and has a 45 gallon tank

4700 lbs dry weight



Hey... he said "gas"!

Heh... that's badass. Though, something tells me getting on the freeway is hell at 4700lbs and diesel.

Someday, if I don't wreck my car before the engine dies (typically around 250-400k), I'll drop in either a 350 Olds Diesel or a 6.1 Diesel into my Fleetwood.



Dad had (hijacking my own thread ) a 1982 Olds 98 diesel. He knew how to drive it without wrecking the engine. Great car.........heavy, right around 30mpg on the highway.......fun boat to drive.

vmax84


Well... since you already hijacked it... I had a '90 Olds Custom Cruiser I bought for $200. Complete rust bucket, no brakes, but mint condition inside. Just beautiful car inside. Well, I fixed it, drove it for awhile towing my boat, and then I bought a $200 Oldsmobile 455 and installed it. Well... $200 doesn't buy you much of a 455! Just about 5lbs of oil pressure at idle. It lasted about three months before I gave up on it because it was scaring me.

I gave the total investment of about $700 to my friend who's a complete Oldsmobile-freak. He dropped in a 350 Olds Diesel and he drives it now. That thing's had more lives than GM ever intended and it's still running strong. We towed home a '71 Cutlass convertable body last month. Can you immagine towing with your dad's Delta 88 diesel? We had about 7000lbs (my conservative guess) pulled by that maybe 100HP. I towed it from Pittsburg to Cleveland, it took me forever! We had to go so slow... and there were so damned many hills where we'd drop below 15MPH and my friend would open the door and pretend to push with one leg. We started to sway on the freeway with the body on the trailer when we got over about 55MPH and it scared the crap out of him, so I ended up driving. It was an interesting trip. I'm just glad it was cold out and I installed the most insanely huge aftermarket aluminum radiator I could fit under the hood.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:04:56 PM EDT
Lotus Elise/Exige, with the factory supercharger kit 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds, and the single best handling car in the world, all with a 1.8liter inline four.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:07:20 PM EDT
My wife's Honda Accord LX 2.4L iVTEC gets 30 mpg running sround to school, work and church.

The Civic gets a little better mileage but it is a lot smaller.

When you stomp on it you can hear the mice just about getting slung off their wheels!

The Accord is smoother running and riding.

The Civics, Corrola's and others of the same class are to small for me to ride in comfortably but for smaller people they would be OK.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:07:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Armed_Scientist:
Lotus Elise/Exige, with the factory supercharger kit 0-60 in under 4.5 seconds, and the single best handling car in the world, all with a 1.8liter inline four.




I think we are looking for a cheap "disposable" car
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:11:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MlTCHELL:

Originally Posted By vmax84:

Originally Posted By MlTCHELL:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
I drive a 1980 Mercedes turbo diesel with 198 k on the clock that gets 30MPG and has a 45 gallon tank

4700 lbs dry weight



Hey... he said "gas"!

Heh... that's badass. Though, something tells me getting on the freeway is hell at 4700lbs and diesel.

Someday, if I don't wreck my car before the engine dies (typically around 250-400k), I'll drop in either a 350 Olds Diesel or a 6.1 Diesel into my Fleetwood.



Dad had (hijacking my own thread ) a 1982 Olds 98 diesel. He knew how to drive it without wrecking the engine. Great car.........heavy, right around 30mpg on the highway.......fun boat to drive.

vmax84


Well... since you already hijacked it... I had a '90 Olds Custom Cruiser I bought for $200. Complete rust bucket, no brakes, but mint condition inside. Just beautiful car inside. Well, I fixed it, drove it for awhile towing my boat, and then I bought a $200 Oldsmobile 455 and installed it. Well... $200 doesn't buy you much of a 455! Just about 5lbs of oil pressure at idle. It lasted about three months before I gave up on it because it was scaring me.

I gave the total investment of about $700 to my friend who's a complete Oldsmobile-freak. He dropped in a 350 Olds Diesel and he drives it now. That thing's had more lives than GM ever intended and it's still running strong. We towed home a '71 Cutlass convertable body last month. Can you immagine towing with your dad's Delta 88 diesel? We had about 7000lbs (my conservative guess) pulled by that maybe 100HP. I towed it from Pittsburg to Cleveland, it took me forever! We had to go so slow... and there were so damned many hills where we'd drop below 15MPH and my friend would open the door and pretend to push with one leg. We started to sway on the freeway with the body on the trailer when we got over about 55MPH and it scared the crap out of him, so I ended up driving. It was an interesting trip. I'm just glad it was cold out and I installed the most insanely huge aftermarket aluminum radiator I could fit under the hood.



That's amazing!! That diesel "wanna-be" engine didn't have enough power to haul it's own weight around, let alone a trailer!!

vmax84
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:11:47 PM EDT
I love my Prius
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:13:06 PM EDT
I am particularly interested in the early to mid Honda Civics. I thought there was one model that was extremely good on fuel.

vmax84
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:14:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:17:14 PM EDT
Jetta TDI.
Full framed, 8 airbags, 40 miles to the gallon. Compact enough to be easy to park. Perfect for the city.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:17:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
addlepated.net/images/me_prius.jpg

Averaged 49 MPG today doing 150 miles of 75-80 MPH driving.



That's incredible.

vmax84
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:19:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Jetta TDI.
Full framed, 8 airbags, 40 miles to the gallon. Compact enough to be easy to park. Perfect for the city.



Alot of people say that VW's are, but I would have no problem driving one for 40mpg. Currently I have an 02' Maxima, averages about 26mpg city and highway.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:35:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Jetta TDI.
Full framed, 8 airbags, 40 miles to the gallon. Compact enough to be easy to park. Perfect for the city.


Ummm... since when does Volkswagen make a full-framed car?

Last I checked only Ford made a car with a frame. Before that, the only cars made with a full-frame within the past 15 years were either made by GM (D/B-body) or Ford (Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car).
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:41:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By adair_usmc:
I love my Prius



My daughter just got one. She is getting 54 to 58 mpg. AND drivers it rough...
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:51:14 PM EDT
Chevy Suburban.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:38:19 PM EDT
Last week I found and bought a 96 Camry LE 4 cyl auto trans with 53K miles on it. The car is extremely clean and is the last year of the 3rd generation of Camry's.

I filled it up yesterday and it got 21.45 mpg on the first tank (first for me). The driving for the first half of the tank was a mix of city and beltways. The second half was all city, from hospital to home, and viceaversa, about 7 miles per leg.

My wife's 2001 Camry LE 4 cyl auto has gotten a low of 20 mpg in town to about 24 mpg for mix driving. On the interstates it gets 28 to 30 and will get as high as 33 mpg if you drive 500 miles of interstate without going through a big city during rush hour. The 2001 is the last year of the Gen. 4 Camry's.

The Camry's are nice, dependable and you can carry adults in the rear seats if you need to. I do wish they were quieter.

We used to have a 91 Camry LE 4 cyl auto. 1991 was the last year of the gen. 2 Camry's. The 91 got about 22 in town, mix. Interstate often got mpg's like 29.89, etc., but it never got 30 mpg or above.

Recently we drove a 2005, the next to last year of Camry generation 5. It was faster and quieter than my wife's Gen. 4. My gen. 3 car is slower and has about the same noise level as my wife's gen. 4.

Our gen. 2 and gen 3 were made in the US, our Gen 4 was made in Japan. All had excellent build quality.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:48:27 PM EDT
Ford Festiva's rule! he he he I've owned 2 of them and loved them. Totally cheap and noisy rattly turds, but they go and go and go and... Well you get the idea... My last one costed me $300, got 38 mpg, and I drove it over 3 years for less than $400 in repairs and maintenance.

I figure if you have the guts to be seen in one then people will think you're a really cool guy who doesn't need a car to look good! That and you're a non-materialistic guy who has better shit to blow money on than 4 wheels round and black to haul your butt to work and back!

Or... I have a 91 Caddy SeVille STS witha 4.8 liter V8 that will launch off the line like a Z28, yet is major comfy with all the 1991 bells and whistles, and it gets 27 mpg at 70mph on the interstate. About 22 in town.

BTW... 4 new tires for a festy at wally world will only set you back ~$120 for all 4!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:51:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:44:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vmax84:
Was curious what the most fuel effiecent car out there with a gas engine you'd drive.

Isn't there a Honda Civic that gets exceptional gas mileage? I don't know the model number (DX, HX, ????).

Anybody got any info on this? Thanks.

vmax84



Go here and decide for yourself: www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/hybrid_news.shtml

I drive the Honda Civic Hybrid. It doesn't turn any heads. It's not too small, IMHO. The new 2006 model gets better mileage and looks better than the older ones.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:44:41 AM EDT
I got my Jetta for work commuting. It's the 1.8l Turbo, and gets 28MPG on the road, would probably do 30+ easy if I didn't drive like an ass. I wanted a 3/4 ton truck for towing my off road junk, but fuel prices were a big deciding factor. I go to work every day, my off-roading is down to about twice a year.

Never thought I would drive a 4 door mini after years of having Mustangs, but these days the GT sits. I'm even thinking of selling it.

Michael
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:53:34 AM EDT
05 Ford F-350 Diesel, 17-20mpg lol, 450 RWHP, 13.8.

-Dan.

I'd drive a jetta diesel if it wasn't gay. A girl I know gets 45-50mpg. More than a Prius!
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:05:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:17:19 AM EDT
Corolla- 39mpg highway.

Plenty of bigger cars fail miserably in impacts. Just because a car is heavier doesn't mean it's engineered better for collisions.

Remembering the '70's gas crisis, big trucks seem like a stupid choice unless you live 3 miles up a mountain trail- most I see get used for commuting to work and going to the mall, with the illusion that heavier is safer.

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:18:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2005 5:19:29 AM EDT by TomJefferson]
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:34:18 AM EDT
99 mercury grand marquis ls.

18 in the city if i'm not enjoying it and i got 25 mpg on the highway the other day running 75-90 mph. 3900 lbs and its REALLY DOES HAVE A FULL FRAME unlike that cheap GM made shit.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:48:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Specop_007:
Jetta TDI.
Full framed, 8 airbags, 40 miles to the gallon. Compact enough to be easy to park. Perfect for the city.



+1
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:48:51 AM EDT
I would be ashamed to drive any car that had payments on it.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:53:40 AM EDT
I had a 91 Olds Calais with the 2.5L 5speed that got nearly 40mpg hwy. After the wreck with my mustang though I'm done with small cars for awhile. I feel alot better in my F350
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 6:00:37 AM EDT
My daily driver, it averages 16 MPG, gets up to 21 on the HWY:

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 6:03:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TomJefferson:


We spend too much of our time in our cars to not drive something fun.

For a bunch of really young guys, you all sure do think old.

Tj




My thoughts also.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:31:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MlTCHELL:

Originally Posted By fadedsun:
I drive a 1980 Mercedes turbo diesel with 198 k on the clock that gets 30MPG and has a 45 gallon tank

4700 lbs dry weight



Hey... he said "gas"!

Heh... that's badass. Though, something tells me getting on the freeway is hell at 4700lbs and diesel.

Someday, if I don't wreck my car before the engine dies (typically around 250-400k), I'll drop in either a 350 Olds Diesel or a 6.1 Diesel into my Fleetwood.



Whoops . It isn't fast at all, but it does accelerate nicely when you put the pedal down. I topped out at 70 coming back to houston from Pensacola with a ton of crap in the car. It loves going 55-65 though.

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:41:36 AM EDT


about 28-30 on the freeway, not bad considering it is about as areodynamic as a cinder block
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:46:35 AM EDT
My 'highway' ride is a '97 Mark 8 with a 4.6L four valve engine, 300 hp.

22-25 city, 28-30 highway.

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 10:27:22 AM EDT
we're really happy with our VW jetta wagon TDI. it has 10 airbags, top of its class in crash ratings and gets 56mpg highway using the cruise control. for my money its way more useful and practical than a hybrid. you can squeeze 5 adults in it. it has the cargo capacity of a small wagon and the german build quality.

if you ask me direct injected diesels are a much more realistic solution than hybrids.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:11:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vmax84:
I am particularly interested in the early to mid Honda Civics. I thought there was one model that was extremely good on fuel.

vmax84


I believe that is the DX model.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:16:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Paul:
The only car I would be ashamed to drive would be a French one.



Paul, doesnt Renault own controlling interest in Nissan?
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