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Posted: 4/22/2016 6:42:21 PM EDT

Report: More than 500 pounds of explosives stolen from CSX train
traveling from Chicago to Detroit, source tells CBS News; ATF
considering an advisory


... A spokesman for the ATF in Detroit called this a very serious case.
Technically the explosives are classified as fireworks but because they
are commercial grade combined with the quantity makes them extremely
dangerous. The ATF says they are a lot more volatile and typically only
handled by professionals.


Investigators believe at least 32 cases
of the explosives are missing. The ATF's Detroit office is leading the
investigation with assistance from Detroit Police. Investigators believe
that several suspects are likely responsible for the theft.



Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:42:57 PM EDT


Well, at least it'll have a good home.


Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:46:32 PM EDT
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Report: More than 500 pounds of explosives stolen from CSX train traveling from Chicago to Detroit, source tells CBS News; ATF considering an advisory

... A spokesman for the ATF in Detroit called this a very serious case. Technically the explosives are classified as fireworks but because they are commercial grade combined with the quantity makes them extremely dangerous. The ATF says they are a lot more volatile and typically only handled by professionals.


Investigators believe at least 32 cases of the explosives are missing. The ATF's Detroit office is leading the investigation with assistance from Detroit Police. Investigators believe that several suspects are likely responsible for the theft.


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So somebody stole (or maybe misplaced) some firecrackers and we should all now run around and scream and shout?

Sadly we are becoming a nation of frightened children.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:46:32 PM EDT
So it's just fireworks? The headline makes it sound like they let some C4 walk away.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:47:03 PM EDT
Probably stolen when it arrived in Detroit.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:49:08 PM EDT
Probably 500 pounds of pop rocks
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:49:49 PM EDT
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Boom is boom.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:50:31 PM EDT
Whoooaaaahhh... can you imagine 500lbs of those snake pellets?  light em all and watch them take over a town...
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:53:33 PM EDT
500lbs of sparklers and snakes.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:54:19 PM EDT
Bulk flash powder maybe?  That would be a bit frightening.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:55:30 PM EDT
So, 32 cases of bottle rockets?  Maybe they were the whistling kind.  
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:55:54 PM EDT


That's a lot of snakes and sparklers...

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:57:10 PM EDT
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Obviously you've never seen real fireworks. A high number of bomb techs are injured or killed while dealing with them.

Also, fireworks are a lot easier to set off compared to C-4. So based on that alone I would say the fireworks would be more dangerous in the hands of amateurs. I wouldn't be too concerned about a bunch of bottle rockets walking off but commercial grade shells could pose serious risks.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:57:40 PM EDT
Who needs 500 pounds of explosives in Detroit?

This is the relevant question.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:58:36 PM EDT
Will there be a shortage of whiskerdos and whiskerdonts?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 6:59:03 PM EDT
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Youd run out of targets
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:00:56 PM EDT
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Report: More than 500 pounds of explosives stolen from CSX train traveling from Chicago to Detroit, source tells CBS News; ATF considering an advisory

... A spokesman for the ATF in Detroit called this a very serious case. Technically the explosives are classified as fireworks but because they are commercial grade combined with the quantity makes them extremely dangerous. The ATF says they are a lot more volatile and typically only handled by professionals.


Investigators believe at least 32 cases of the explosives are missing. The ATF's Detroit office is leading the investigation with assistance from Detroit Police. Investigators believe that several suspects are likely responsible for the theft.


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So somebody stole (or maybe misplaced) some firecrackers and we should all now run around and scream and shout?

Sadly we are becoming a nation of frightened children.


"OMGZ turrisim!"

I'm more worried about earthquakes or a stroke than that boogeyman BS.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:03:13 PM EDT
This thread needs the YouTube bootleg fireworks video.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:03:38 PM EDT
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the Boston marathon bombers used fireworks. a much smaller quantity.

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:03:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:04:21 PM EDT
Sounds like these were just cases of commercial fireworks mortar shells.  At the very worst, they would be bulk salutes but I doubt that.  Technically bulk salutes( basically just the mortar shells that go up and make a bang but don't have any visual effect) are shipped/stored as DOT 1.1 "high explosives" while the mortar shells that have the break, along with some stars inside, are shipped as DOT 1.3 "low explosives".   I doubt is bulk salutes because technically you can count a box of 50 mortar shells with 49 salutes and one colored shell as a mixed case and therefore can be shipped as 1.3 Low explosive.

Something like this:
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:04:24 PM EDT
I've blown some stuff up with "fireworks" that were just a couple steps above what you can buy at the fireworks stand, and that stuff is no joke.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:05:14 PM EDT
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This.

500lbs isn't NEARLY enough.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:06:01 PM EDT
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Tell these guys in India that fireworks are just toys.

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:13:31 PM EDT
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Youd run out of targets


Right-wing terrorist...duh.

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:16:47 PM EDT
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"OMGZ turrisim!"

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Report: More than 500 pounds of explosives stolen from CSX train traveling from Chicago to Detroit, source tells CBS News; ATF considering an advisory

... A spokesman for the ATF in Detroit called this a very serious case. Technically the explosives are classified as fireworks but because they are commercial grade combined with the quantity makes them extremely dangerous. The ATF says they are a lot more volatile and typically only handled by professionals.


Investigators believe at least 32 cases of the explosives are missing. The ATF's Detroit office is leading the investigation with assistance from Detroit Police. Investigators believe that several suspects are likely responsible for the theft.


Read more on cbsnews.com




So somebody stole (or maybe misplaced) some firecrackers and we should all now run around and scream and shout?

Sadly we are becoming a nation of frightened children.


"OMGZ turrisim!"

I'm more worried about earthquakes or a stroke than that boogeyman BS.


If muzzies from Dearborn started using it, in suicide vests, daily in the D....

No one would even notice.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:18:49 PM EDT
Hysteria.

Press hyperbole.

ATF bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:20:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:22:11 PM EDT
Just because some peaceful people with grungy beards walked off with a little bit of agricultural bird scaring tools does not mean it was a very sophisticated inside job.   Abdul and Mohammed are poor farmers who could not afford proper stump removal on their organic goat farm.  We need to bring more people like them into our nation.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:28:21 PM EDT
You can make worse shit with cash in hand at home depot.

Give-a-fuck meter must be broken
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:30:41 PM EDT
so.... someone stole 500lbs of fire works?    id watch the hood after dark, probably be easy to find industrial grade big assed fireworks going off.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:42:56 PM EDT
32 cases sounds like a few trips.

Who's the neighbor that doesn't know this is next door.

This stuff repackaged for a heavier single kaboom could be real bad, even a single report packed right would be.

Listen for clues as to where some of this stuff used to be.

Good luck to the folks lookin for that stuff, to bad it got out in the first place.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:46:56 PM EDT
Probably stolen out of a container sitting in the terminal after it had been pulled off the train.  The intermodal terminal in Detroit is not in the best of neighborhoods.  I mean, what can you expect from a neighborhood in Detroit called "Mexicantown" on Google Maps?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:47:53 PM EDT
My bet is, they broke into a random shipping container and grabbed boxes they could not read the labels on. It's Detroit after all.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:48:21 PM EDT
Did they look at the trailer that you can take places?  It might be there, and all wet.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:51:03 PM EDT
Lol. That's all I got anymore.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:59:20 PM EDT
Railyards are "special" places.  I spent 5 years as a spotter/crane operator At Union Pacific yards in Shitcago. Before that I was a gate inspector and Hyster operator at overflow yards.

The trains would roll in with doors open on a dozen containers regularly.  In the yard we had breakins complete with boxes of big screen TVs leading out of the yard.  
"special Officer to track 803" was a regular thing head on the radio.
There were numerous times that drug dogs arrived to check a list of trailers that "vanished"...

In my opinion, inside job at the yard.  Someone knew exactly what they were after.

No one checks seals when trains are loaded, only on the way in and out of the gate by truck.  
If spotters, crane operators see open doors is the only times anyone says or knows a thing.  Until the driver comes for the load.
"Professional" fireworks were always available in Chicago. 8" mortars and bigger.

They'll find em in a garage somewhere.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:02:42 PM EDT
Lol ... Detroit, would anyone notice if they were used ?
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The Marathon bombs were made out of fireworks. It is still concerning.
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Report: More than 500 pounds of explosives stolen from CSX train traveling from Chicago to Detroit, source tells CBS News; ATF considering an advisory

... A spokesman for the ATF in Detroit called this a very serious case. Technically the explosives are classified as fireworks but because they are commercial grade combined with the quantity makes them extremely dangerous. The ATF says they are a lot more volatile and typically only handled by professionals.





Investigators believe at least 32 cases of the explosives are missing. The ATF's Detroit office is leading the investigation with assistance from Detroit Police. Investigators believe that several suspects are likely responsible for the theft.





Read more on cbsnews.com









So somebody stole (or maybe misplaced) some firecrackers and we should all now run around and scream and shout?



Sadly we are becoming a nation of frightened children.
Unfortunately, this is quite correct...

 
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:14:06 PM EDT
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I can blow some shit up with SPARKLERS let a lone actual fireworks that already go bang.

LMAO

J-
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:17:58 PM EDT
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Boom is boom.


Do you even RE factor, Bro?
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:19:10 PM EDT
It is very typical to see containers in our manifests to read. Fireworks.  I have seen a lot of containers that were broken into, most of the time it is someone looking for items of things easy to sell or pawn.  Sometimes we sit in the not so upscale neighborhoods for hours and hours before moving and with trains up to 12k feet we obviously can't police the whole thing.  Most all of your rail yards are in the old part of town where obamas son lives.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:29:12 PM EDT
Improvised requires improvising
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:50:34 PM EDT
lol,  I would much rather handle professional grade explosives than fireworks and fireworks components.  

Those fireworks people blow up their stages and factories with their stuff waaaay more often than anyone else.  Knocked over mortars, loose sparks on a stage or even just static electricity in their manufacturing bomb house.   Blast match, black fuse, etc.  F that shit.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:52:54 PM EDT
Clickbait

That's our news today.
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So somebody stole (or maybe misplaced) some firecrackers and we should all now run around and scream and shout?

Sadly we are becoming a nation of frightened children.
Unfortunately, this is quite correct...  


YUP.  It's pitiful.


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It is very typical to see containers in our manifests to read. Fireworks.  I have seen a lot of containers that were broken into, most of the time it is someone looking for items of things easy to sell or pawn.  Sometimes we sit in the not so upscale neighborhoods for hours and hours before moving and with trains up to 12k feet we obviously can't police the whole thing.  Most all of your rail yards are in the old part of town where obamas son lives.


Exactly. I could pull it up in the OASIS system, and know pretty much what was in there, couple that with the placards = no brainer.

I've sent out 10K foot trains (  was technically illegal in Chicago due to crossings) only to have them bottleneck on the West or East sides in projectville.  There isn't much that can be done.  2 Mile long Train in the wilderness of rail property in the middle of the hood? Good Luck.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:55:13 PM EDT
A spokesman for the ATF in Detroit called this a very serious case. Technically the explosives are classified as fireworks but because they are commercial grade combined with the quantity makes them extremely dangerous

More media BS.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:55:18 PM EDT
Well Independence Day is not to far off.




Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:56:36 PM EDT
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