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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:19:03 PM EDT
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Nice...
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:19:05 PM EDT
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I'm sure of Dem faggot ass Governor will veto it. We managed to purge all the other top libs except him and Tester, but Tester is coming.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:19:12 PM EDT
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If we're going to have defacto nullification with pot laws, than I fully support the same with gun laws.
Go Montana! 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:21:57 PM EDT
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Dang I hope this gains traction in other states.
Absolutely ridiculous law. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:22:22 PM EDT
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Hopefully other states will do the same.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:25:53 PM EDT
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Good. It seems they learned their lesson from the failure of the Firearms Freedom Act, while taking a lesson from the pot states.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:33:00 PM EDT
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It's a useless and shitty law if they're going to be faggots like KS and not support their citizens.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:33:46 PM EDT
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It's a useless and shitty law if they're going to be faggots like KS and not support their citizens. Regarding what? |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:33:55 PM EDT
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Good luck with that. The whole state-law-to-override-federal-law thing is a flawed idea and it works out poorly for those that test it.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:35:55 PM EDT
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Good luck with that. The whole state-law-to-override-federal-law thing is a flawed idea and it works out poorly for those that test it. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:38:10 PM EDT
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Good luck with that. The whole state-law-to-override-federal-law thing is a flawed idea and it works out poorly for those that test it. It works damned well on federal pot laws. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:39:01 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter. Local and state authorities can't nullify federal gun law. Immigration law yes, but gun law, no. Recall the two guys from Kansas who thought their firearm freedom act would protect them. It didn't. Federal gun free zones will still be in effect.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:42:08 PM EDT
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Good luck with that. The whole state-law-to-override-federal-law thing is a flawed idea and it works out poorly for those that test it. 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:54:23 PM EDT
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Doesn't matter. Local and state authorities can't nullify federal gun law. Immigration law yes, but gun law, no. Recall the two guys from Kansas who thought their firearm freedom act would protect them. It didn't. Federal gun free zones will still be in effect. Weed is still illegal too. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:54:41 PM EDT
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So what day does the USPS shut down in Montana?
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Posted: 2/16/2017 2:59:41 PM EDT
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Uh Federal? Should be interesting
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:07:01 PM EDT
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except for official purpose <---- read the bottom line...
i'm here to buy a stamp 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:07:56 PM EDT
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Weed is still illegal too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Doesn't matter. Local and state authorities can't nullify federal gun law. Immigration law yes, but gun law, no. Recall the two guys from Kansas who thought their firearm freedom act would protect them. It didn't. Federal gun free zones will still be in effect. Weed is still illegal too. I know some people here in TX that have sold everything and cashed in their retirement to buy a pot farm in CO. I suspect that at some point they're going to lose it all. If nothing else it's a massive fucking risk because the feds can walk in any time they want. GD has massive cognitive dissonance on this shit and it's frankly hilarious to watch. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:08:15 PM EDT
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if you checked everyone going into and out of a Maine post office on any given day, I would be willing to bet that 15-20% (if not more) would be found to have a firearm on them.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:09:22 PM EDT
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except for official purpose <---- read the bottom line... i'm here to buy a stamp https://rlwesquire.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/usps158.jpg Give it a whirl. GD lawyers are worse than jailhouse lawyers. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:41:49 PM EDT
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Sanctuary states..I am all for more gun freedoms but I see stuff like this in the same light as all the other laws the states are thumbing their noses at. If we are truly a nation of laws we can not pick and choose which ones we want to enforce. With that being said we need more states standing up for freedoms.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:56:16 PM EDT
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Give it a whirl. GD lawyers are worse than jailhouse lawyers. I walked into a post office with a shotgun and mailed it to someone. Did I break the law? Going only by that sign, sure. But that sign leaves out this part of the statute: (d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to— ... (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes. So which lawful purposes are encompassed by the phrase "other lawful purposes?" All lawful purposes or some? If only some, then which? Does mailing a shotgun qualify? And which part of the statute clarifies which lawful purposes qualify as an exception and which don't? |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:57:31 PM EDT
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Good luck with that. The whole state-law-to-override-federal-law thing is a flawed idea and it works out poorly for those that test it. Except it doesn't appear that state law is attempting to override federal law here. If someone carries a gun onto postal property nothing in the state law prevents the postal police, FBI, or other federal law enforcement agency from arresting the suspect on the federal charge and having a federal prosecutor bring a case for the violation of federal law. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:00:52 PM EDT
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Regarding what? http://www.guns.com/2016/11/15/jury-finds-kansas-men-guilty-on-weapons-charges-despite-state-exemptions/ |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:02:48 PM EDT
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if you checked everyone going into and out of a Maine post office on any given day, I would be willing to bet that 15-20% (if not more) would be found to have a firearm on them. Same around here. Most of the older guys didn't even know it was illegal (never read the signs). Stupid ass law,along with a whole shitload of other stupid laws where there is no actual victim. 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:02:57 PM EDT
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It's a useless and shitty law if they're going to be faggots like KS and not support their citizens. I agree. What will they do when their citizens start getting actually arrested? Nothing, just like Kansas did with theirs. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:13:37 PM EDT
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Many decades ago mail carriers were given a revolver with which they were expected to protect the mail. It's why my uncle quit the job. How times and changed.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:38:28 PM EDT
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Death.
Destruction. Mayhem. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:45:26 PM EDT
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Dup
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:46:30 PM EDT
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While I do not favor the banning of firearms on the premises of the US Postal Service (and other public access facilities), the simple answer to your question would be US Postal Inspectors (criminal investigators) would make those arrests. Most likely they would get a referral (complaint) from the local Post Master, open and conduct an investigation and then apply for an Arrest Warrant by Criminal Complaint through a federal District Court or just directly seek a Grand Jury Indictment and Arrest Warrant. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2017/02/to-the-governor-montana-passes-bill-to-authorize-firearms-on-post-office-property/ Today, the Montana Senate gave final approval to a bill that would authorize a person to carry a handgun on U.S. Postal Service property in the state and set the foundation for the people there to reject an unconstitutional federal gun control measure in practice. The legislation now goes to the Governor’s desk. Rep. Randy Brodehl (R-Kalispell) introduced House Bill 246 (HB246) on Jan. 13. The legislation would allow handguns in U.S. Post Office buildings and on their property. While passage of HB246 would not physically stop the federal government from prosecuting a person arrested on USPS property with a firearm, it would remove the most important layer of enforcement. Without state or local police cooperation, who would make the arrests? Without such assistance, the federal government would have a difficult time enforcing its law. The post office would have to rely on federal law enforcement agencies to patrol Montana USPS facilities and make arrests under federal law. It simply does not have the resources to do this effectively. Passage of HB246 would nullify in effect the federal law. While I do not favor the banning of firearms on the premises of the US Postal Service (and other public access facilities), the simple answer to your question would be US Postal Inspectors (criminal investigators) would make those arrests. Most likely they would get a referral (complaint) from the local Post Master, open and conduct an investigation and then apply for an Arrest Warrant by Criminal Complaint through a federal District Court or just directly seek a Grand Jury Indictment and Arrest Warrant. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 4:49:14 PM EDT
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I'm sure of Dem faggot ass Governor will veto it. We managed to purge all the other top libs except him and Tester, but Tester is coming. This. Permitless carry has also passed the legislature once again, but Bullock will veto it for the 3rd time. Soon. |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 7:42:51 PM EDT
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I agree. What will they do when their citizens start getting actually arrested? Nothing, just like Kansas did with theirs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a useless and shitty law if they're going to be faggots like KS and not support their citizens. I agree. What will they do when their citizens start getting actually arrested? Nothing, just like Kansas did with theirs. I think some of you guys are missing the point. If I'm reading the article correctly, it's not about fighting the feds. In fact it clearly states that the feds could still come in and arrest people. You'd be on your own in that case. All it says is that State and local officials won't be arresting anyone for carrying in the post office. It puts the onus on the feds to actually come in and make an arrest if they want to. The state won't support you if the feds arrest you for it because it says the feds can still do that. It's pretty clear on that, so it has nothing to do with expecting the state to back you up in that case. |
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