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Posted: 11/5/2015 3:26:29 PM EDT

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article42444297.html


Should convicted felons in Missouri have the legal right to own and possess guns?

Thousands of convicted burglars, thieves and drug dealers could win that right, depending on how the Missouri Supreme Court rules on three cases it heard arguments on last week.
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Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:29:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:30:18 PM EDT
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Good
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:31:42 PM EDT
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Under the Missouri Constitutional Amendment passed we have an absolute right to keep and bear arms subject to "Strict Scrutiny" under judicial review.

So I am going to say "Yes" felons have a right to keep and bear arms under STATE law.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:32:21 PM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:34:26 PM EDT
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Under the Missouri Constitutional Amendment passed we have an absolute right to keep and bear arms subject to "Strict Scrutiny" under judicial review.

So I am going to say "Yes" felons have a right to keep and bear arms under STATE law.
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Absolutely.  I don't remember the last time this case was tried, but since the Constitution was amended, basically anyone and everyone gets guns no and's if's or but's.  

There'd have to be some hardcore derp to say no.

Frankly, it'll help shape what prison is actually for not this bullshit "you're a bad guy, you have to stay labeled as a bad guy, just don't hurt anyone once we let you out ok?"

You're free or you're not and Missouri gets better by the day.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:58:06 PM EDT
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Shouldn't be difficult to keep weapons out of the hands of felons even using strict scrutiny as the standard of review. Ah, they are fucking dangerous people, there's your compelling state interest.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 3:59:24 PM EDT
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Don't be a felon, problem solved.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 4:01:37 PM EDT
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Yeah, how's that going to work on federal form 4473?

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 4:05:03 PM EDT
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even if the state court says most felons can possess firearms, that doesn't change the federal laws prohibiting felons from possessing firearms.  It would essentially mean that there would not be any state level prosecutions unless they were violent felons, so prosecution for other felon in possession of firearms cases would need to come from the Feds.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 4:18:30 PM EDT
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Shouldn't be difficult to keep weapons out of the hands of felons even using strict scrutiny as the standard of review. Ah, they are fucking dangerous people, there's your compelling state interest.
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Most rights can potentially be curtailed as a punishment for committing a crime, even the right to life.  That's basically how criminal punishment works.  If you cannot curtail rights as punishment, you can't have any meaningful criminal punishment.  Whether or not the current laws mandating the punishment of RKBA revocation for all felons and some misdemeanants are right and just is another matter entirely, but it is not any more wrong than forfeiture of property, execution, imprisonment, corporal punishment, etc. as long as it is appropriately applied.  IMO, no misdemeanours and the majority of felonies do not warrant that particular punishment.  Regarding felonies, a major part of this is because felonies, while still having a serious connotation, often do not involve seriously criminal or even malum in se acts.  Some of the things that are felonies are very petty malum prohibitum offences, and some are even things which should be considered rights and thus not be crimes at all.
Link Posted: 11/5/2015 4:43:33 PM EDT
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Yeah, how's that going to work on federal form 4473?



A.W.D.
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Poorly, for those of us behind the gun counter.



And there will be much explaining of state vs. federal law.
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