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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:22:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:25:13 PM EDT
What's that airline's policy on carry-on weapons?
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:25:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2005 7:26:12 PM EDT by VTwin60]
an MD-11? Tower flight?
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:25:23 PM EDT
N-number : N273WA
Aircraft Serial Number : 48519
Aircraft Manufacturer : MCDONNELL DOUGLAS
Model : MD-11
Engine Manufacturer : P&W
Model : PW4000 SER
Aircraft Year : 1993
Owner Name : INTERNATIONAL LEASE FINANCE CORP
Owner Address : 10250 CONSTELLATION BLVD FL 34
LOS ANGELES, CA, 90067-6234
Type of Owner : Corporation
Registration Date : 22-Apr-1993
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard
Approved Operations : Transport

Transport to Groom Lake?
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:26:18 PM EDT
DC-10. What's so special about it?
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:26:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:27:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2005 7:28:28 PM EDT by SmilingBandit]
Yup, it's an MD-11, the follow on to the DC-10. They ditched the DC-X series after the Sioux City crash. The 11 should really have been another series of the 10.

ETA: The quickest way to spot the difference is the addition of winglets to the MD-11.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:27:51 PM EDT
I've got an all expense paid trip on that air carrier in October.

~Dg84
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:29:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
DC-10. What's so special about it?



That's the Rotator. [cold chill] That's the ride to the sandbox.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:30:15 PM EDT
That the rotater, or freedom bird or the shit bird (depends on which way you are going) . Its a Mil contract flight that rotates troops to Iraq and other points of intrests
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:30:35 PM EDT
You mean you guys have been in the Military and never flown a World Airways flight?

Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:30:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lapp_Dance:

Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
DC-10. What's so special about it?



That's the Rotator. [cold chill] That's the ride to the sandbox.



Oh!

They use one plane?

Thought they'd use at least three!
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:31:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
You mean you guys have been in the Military and never flown a World Airways flight?




I work on tankers. We haul ourselves around.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:31:45 PM EDT
I've only recently heard of World Air being used. Up until about a week ago, I thought it was just Omni Air International (Frankfurt) and ATA (Shannon). I took OAI out and for leave, and ATA coming back.

It seems that World stops at Shannon as well.

NTM
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:32:36 PM EDT
Self loading baggage I see.


Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
I work on tankers. We haul ourselves around.

Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:32:59 PM EDT
I sat at a desk with headphones on most of the time. Rode British Airways when I went to Jordan for a Language Immersion Course.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:33:14 PM EDT
You could say that Air America never really went away....
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:34:49 PM EDT
I had an all expense paid round trip to Germany on the DC-10 version of that baby back in 80's.

Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:35:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:
I've only recently heard of World Air being used. Up until about a week ago, I thought it was just Omni Air International (Frankfurt) and ATA (Shannon). I took OAI out and for leave, and ATA coming back.

It seems that World stops at Shannon as well.

NTM



Anyone remember Flying Tigers? I rode on one of theirs to Okinawa in 1988, I think it was a 747.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:36:15 PM EDT
I flew Tower Air as well as Air Mobility Command. They weren't bad flights either
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:37:32 PM EDT
Did it look like this:


or this:



Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:39:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MilTrainInstructor:
That the rotater, or freedom bird or the shit bird (depends on which way you are going) . Its a Mil contract flight that rotates troops to Iraq and other points of intrests



A plane with a logo just like that one was my ride home halfway through a 6 month Med Deployment.

I've probably never been as happy as I was flying out of Bahrain on my way home to get out of the Nav.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:39:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
Did it look like this:
www.worldair.com/passenger/images/1_thumb.jpg

or this:
www.worldair.com/passenger/images/seat_3.jpg







This one unfortunately. At least it wasn't full when I went to Kuwait.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:40:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
Self loading baggage I see.


Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
I work on tankers. We haul ourselves around.




As a crew chief I always find myself too busy preparing the plane to help with the bag drag.

Self loading baggage....
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:40:58 PM EDT
Mine was cattle car seating all the way. On the flight over I sat next to a fat Army doctor who had his name tag and ribbons reversed (name tag on the left, etc.) ... LOL
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:41:37 PM EDT
I went back and forth to GW v1.0 on North Western 747s
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:45:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Spackler:
Anyone remember Flying Tigers? I rode on one of theirs to Okinawa in 1988, I think it was a 747.




Yep.

Bought out by FedEx in 1989.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:47:47 PM EDT
oh i've ridden "The Rotator" many times my friend

my brother is a flight engineer for World Air. he works about 2 weeks out of every month either doing far east or middle east rotations. he has been EVERYWHERE. seriously. like 28 countries. most of them exotic and beautiful. many of them full of ROP'ers who would like to kill his baby brother the jarhead.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 7:49:34 PM EDT
Not only does the plane look familiar, the location does too. That looks like the Mid-America Airport side of Scott AFB
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:02:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DesertRat66:
Not only does the plane look familiar, the location does too. That looks like the Mid-America Airport side of Scott AFB



Right you are.
Photo taken at Scott AFB / Mid America Airport on Sunday morning.
The MD-11 of World Airways brought troops home the night before.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:14:20 PM EDT
I took this. . .

. . .to get to this. . .

Then I rode that 453-foot long, 4000-ton boat all over God's half-acre for four years and 26 days!

Lately, "deployments" mean riding /driving:



-or-

Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:17:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:

Originally Posted By DesertRat66:
Not only does the plane look familiar, the location does too. That looks like the Mid-America Airport side of Scott AFB



Right you are.
Photo taken at Scott AFB / Mid America Airport on Sunday morning.
The MD-11 of World Airways brought troops home the night before.



Howdy Neighbor! I still live in the area, but I work at the University now.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:18:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:
You mean you guys have been in the Military and never flown a World Airways flight?




I have. It had scorch marks on it and the pilot must have been some WWII P38 veteran piliot having Guadalcanal flashbacks. He pulled a turn that made me think the wings would snap off.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:22:56 PM EDT
What I found amusing was that when they sent us to Kuwait, they figured "300 people, let's charter a 300 seater"

Then they declared almost everything we had to be 'sensitive items' and which thus could not be checked in. We were caught trying to cram anything from body armor and machineguns (We had several weapons apiece) through SINCGARS decoders and PLUGRs in the overhead racks, under the seat in front of us, on top of the guy sitting next to you...

Oh, and the knives had to go in checked baggage.

NTM
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:33:33 PM EDT
I've flown on World Airways MD-11, ATA L-1011, Northwest 747-400. I've been to/from Japan about 10 times by air, and once by ship.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 8:49:06 PM EDT
I saw that plane at Norfolk NAS a couple of weeks ago.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:15:49 PM EDT
My Freedom Bird from GW1 was Fed-Ex operated but the plane was still painted for Flying Tigers and the entire crew was ex-Flying Tigers.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:23:20 PM EDT
I've marshalled that airplane in and out a few times, recently, like two days ago. Those things have crap APUs, need two frigging bleed air carts to crank the AC packs so they stay a comfy 95-100 in the cabin. Evertime I see that thing taxi out full of paroled prisoners I swear I can hear the cheer over the sound of the running engines!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:42:03 PM EDT
I never saw one of those. I always rode in C-141s, C-5s, C-17s, or C-130's. Sorry.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:48:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MilTrainInstructor:
That the rotater, or freedom bird or the shit bird (depends on which way you are going) .



No, it's the shit bird both ways. They get you there on time, but take a week (of being broke, or crew rest needed, or engine compressor failure, or some other bs) to get you out. Anyway, we had omni for our flights.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:51:48 PM EDT
Went on World Airways from Charleston to Frankfurt in 1978.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 1:53:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KA3B:

Originally Posted By Spackler:
Anyone remember Flying Tigers? I rode on one of theirs to Okinawa in 1988, I think it was a 747.




Yep.
www.flyingtigerline.org/images/eighties18a.JPG
Bought out by FedEx in 1989.

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BTDT to Seoul Korra in 86

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