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Posted: 3/17/2006 9:20:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:40:30 PM EDT by LANCEMAN]
Video at this link cbs4boston.com/local/local_story_076161728.html






Men With Semiautomatic Weapons Hold Up Grocery Store
Getaway Car Stolen From Salem, N.H.

POSTED: 11:42 pm EST March 17, 2006
UPDATED: 12:23 am EST March 18, 2006

METHUEN, Mass. -- A brazen robbery frightened customers at the Market Basket grocery store in Methuen, Mass. Thursday night.

Two armed men rushed into the store; one was holding an assault rifle.

The scene was captured on the store's security video.

The customers inside placed calls to 911.

"There's a holdup a holdup at Market Basket, Methuen, Massachusetts, 70 Pleasant Street," one caller said. "There are two guys; one of the guys has two guns."

Methuen police said the second robber was holding a semiautomatic handgun in each hand.

The robbery took less than one minute.

Police say one man ran to the cash office. The other ordered customers to get down.

"He just repeated, 'Get on the ground, get on the ground, stay on the ground,' and waited for the second subject," Methuen Police Capt. Kristopher McCarthy said.

Police said a third person was waiting outside in a getaway car.

That car, a Nissan Maxima, was reported stolen from the parking lot at the Rockingham Park Mall in Salem, N.H.

It was found in Lawrence, Mass. following the robbery.

Police said it is fortunate nobody was hurt.

McCarthy said, "The fear the customers were put in was unimaginable in that magnitude of this type of crime."

Police said the men knew what they were doing and that is cause for concern.

"We are concerned that they could strike another store," McCarthy said. "If not in Methuen, Southern New Hampshire or somewhere in the New England area."



http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/8092427/detail.html?rss=man&psp=news#
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:21:24 PM EDT
But I thought they have an assault weapons ban!!!
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:21:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:22:42 PM EDT by Napoleon_Tanerite]
just what we DON'T need....

though statistically this is nothing.

ETA: hard to tell, but from that pic it looks like that rifle doesnt have a bayonet lug, thus is a POST ban rifle. there must be some mistake, because post ban guns can't be used to commit crimes!
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:21:59 PM EDT
maybe its just the crappy picture but it appears to be a post ban so therefore it is not legally a assault weapon merely a rifle
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:23:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:23:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:23:41 PM EDT
what is this like the first crime with an "assault" weapon?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:27:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
But I thought they have an assault weapons ban!!!



Tell Sarah Brady to spank their asses for breaking the law.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:33:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:38:00 PM EDT by LANCEMAN]
Video at this link cbs4boston.com/local/local_story_076161728.html




Robbers With Assault Rifle Caught On Tape


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(CBS4) BOSTON Two robbers stormed into the Market Basket in Methuen Thursday night while customers were shopping.

An assault rifle was displayed during the Pleasant Valley Street robbery. The suspects are still on the loose.

The suspects were armed, masked and well-rehearsed, according to police. The two gunmen entered the store at 8:30 p.m. One suspect was armed with an assault rifle and the second suspect was armed with two semi-automatic handguns, according to police.

"They came in, they ordered everyone on the ground ... went into the customer down, ordered to give cash," said the police chief.

The whole robbery took about a minute.

Authorities say a third person is believed to have been driving the getaway car that was parked outside of the store. The vehicle is described as a black four-door 1998 Nissan Maxima that was stolen from The Mall at Rockingham Park in Salem, N.H. and later found in Lawrence. After that, police say the suspects may have entered a white vehicle, possibly a Toyota Camry, which was last seen leaving the Thorndike Street area of Lawrence.

No one was injured, but the firepower displayed concerns police. The man at the door carried a gun similar to one carried by police. They have not seen that specific type of weapon in 15 years.

"We've seen it during wartime, it's dangerous," the police chief said. "Not to be out on streets
."

Shoppers at Market Basket were surprised.

"It's very shocking," said one customer. "I live two miles down the road."

http://cbs4boston.com/local/local_story_076161728.html

Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:35:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 9:42:17 PM EDT by azhammer]
It looks like that rifle weighs 87 lbs.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:36:42 PM EDT
The photo looks like your Avatar.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:36:52 PM EDT
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:38:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:40:40 PM EDT
Beautiful... just fucking beautiful.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:42:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
But I thought they have an assault weapons ban!!!



That is only for law abiding citizens
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:49:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bear3351:

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
But I thought they have an assault weapons ban!!!



That is only for law abiding citizens


Yep. The guns posessed them to do it, right? Fucking assholes will spin this that way, I promise!
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:51:27 PM EDT
Boy, I hope for their sake the rifles were ban compliant or they are really going to be in trouble!


Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:54:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.



Ain't no post-ban compliant airsoft M4gery with 16in barrel. That there is bona-fide, genuine real-steel, so they call it.

Got to give it to the robbers, they got good taste.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 9:55:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PromptCritical:
But I thought they have an assault weapons ban!!!



LETS NOT GIVE THEM ANY MORE AMMO
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:15:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/17/2006 10:16:10 PM EDT by Crzy_One]
one holding an ar15, the other had a semi-auto in both hands, no free hand to get the money
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:31:41 PM EDT
Maybe its just a bad pic or I'm freaking really tired but the barrel looks bowed
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:34:15 PM EDT
Airsoft?
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 10:58:49 PM EDT
Who cares?
I don't see why you guys are getting so worked up.
The socialists want to fuck us, and they will.
Just a matter of time.
I accept it as an inevitability that it will end in shooting between us and the socialists.
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:01:09 PM EDT
probably some guys off of ARFCOM... 5. 56 ammo is expensive these days. LOL
Link Posted: 3/17/2006 11:40:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Napoleon_Tanerite:
just what we DON'T need....

though statistically this is nothing.

ETA: hard to tell, but from that pic it looks like that rifle doesnt have a bayonet lug, thus is a POST ban rifle. there must be some mistake, because post ban guns can't be used to commit crimes!




65% of all statistics are made up
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 12:07:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CK1:

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.



Ain't no post-ban compliant airsoft M4gery with 16in barrel. That there is bona-fide, genuine real-steel, so they call it.

Got to give it to the robbers, they got good taste.



As an airsofter I've never seen a 16" M4 type airsoft gun. They're all either 20" or 14.5" from the factory.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 12:21:57 AM EDT
No one was injured, but the firepower displayed concerns police. The man at the door carried a gun similar to one carried by police. They have not seen that specific type of weapon in 15 years.

"We've seen it during wartime, it's dangerous," the police chief said. "Not to be out on streets."

++++++++++++++

Only ok for the cops to carry that type of weapon.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 12:33:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RAINBOW6:
No one was injured, but the firepower displayed concerns police. The man at the door carried a gun similar to one carried by police. They have not seen that specific type of weapon in 15 years.

"We've seen it during wartime, it's dangerous," the police chief said. "Not to be out on streets."

++++++++++++++

Only ok for the cops to carry that type of weapon.



Indeed. What power was fired if no shots were fired?
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 12:45:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.

You guys beat me to it.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 4:43:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By nofolkinway:
The photo looks like your Avatar.



I swear I haven't left Florida in weeks........
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 4:50:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 4:51:13 AM EDT by falaholic1]
I guess no CCW's in the store....

ETA: The police saw this type of weapon during wartime? What war did they participate in?
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 4:52:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.



+1

I betcha that's exactly what it is.

If it is a real AR, they should ban those things because the rifle is obviously not capable of controlling itself, and will commit more crimes if left on the streets.

Link Posted: 3/18/2006 4:57:04 AM EDT
Does it have a flash suppressor? If so at least he has a banned version
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 4:59:41 AM EDT
Damn, whether he stole the AR or bought it legally I bet we see this image on a Brady Campaign or VPC poster the next time a federal AWB comes around.

Thats the type of image that scares the average citizen into supporting the ban.

f-criminals.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:25:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Does it have a flash suppressor? If so at least he has a banned version



Looked like an AK brake
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:37:36 AM EDT
Just think. One hundred years from now these punks will be thought of as swash buckling ne'r-do-wells like Jesse James and Robin Hood.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:41:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.



Now THAT would be interesting. What's next, the assault air rifle weapon ban?
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:43:52 AM EDT
Somebody's been watching too much "Heat".

Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:47:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RAINBOW6:
No one was injured, but the firepower displayed concerns police. The man at the door carried a gun similar to one carried by police. They have not seen that specific type of weapon in 15 years.

"We've seen it during wartime, it's dangerous," the police chief said. "Not to be out on streets."

++++++++++++++

Only ok for the cops to carry that type of weapon.



Maybe off duty cops pulled the heist???? Were the handguns .40 cal Glocks? Professionals ya know........
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:55:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By RAINBOW6:
No one was injured, but the firepower displayed concerns police. The man at the door carried a gun similar to one carried by police. They have not seen that specific type of weapon in 15 years.

"We've seen it during wartime, it's dangerous," the police chief said. "Not to be out on streets."

++++++++++++++

Only ok for the cops to carry that type of weapon.



Maybe off duty cops pulled the heist???? Were the handguns .40 cal Glocks? Professionals ya know........



No one hurt multiple reports of the bad guys telling every to get down....sounds like cops..taking advantage of the unarmed citizens
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:58:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BURN:

Originally Posted By fxntime:

Originally Posted By RAINBOW6:
No one was injured, but the firepower displayed concerns police. The man at the door carried a gun similar to one carried by police. They have not seen that specific type of weapon in 15 years.

"We've seen it during wartime, it's dangerous," the police chief said. "Not to be out on streets."

++++++++++++++

Only ok for the cops to carry that type of weapon.



Maybe off duty cops pulled the heist???? Were the handguns .40 cal Glocks? Professionals ya know........



No one hurt multiple reports of the bad guys telling every to get down....sounds like cops..taking advantage of the unarmed citizens

If those are cops then they must be pencil pushing desk jockys they way he is holding the AR it looks like it weighs 100lbs.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 5:58:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/18/2006 5:59:24 AM EDT by Hawkeye]
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:02:04 AM EDT


At least there weren't any dogs involved

Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:05:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sta1treeman:

Originally Posted By smokycity:

Originally Posted By pcsutton:
Bet ya 10 to 1 the AR was stolen.



Or it's an airsoft.

You guys beat me to it.




Libs will probably want those banned also

It pisses me off that the 'story' here is the gun and not the crime

Hell, a .357 or .44 mag handgun is -------------- never mind

Total bullshit media whipping up hysteria
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:09:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By falaholic1:
I guess no CCW's in the store....

ETA: The police saw this type of weapon during wartime? What war did they participate in?



maybe there were....If I was carrying in there and two (possibly 3) guys robbed the place, one had an ar, and were not hurting anyone, I wouldn't do shit either.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:14:26 AM EDT
A CCW holder vs a robber with an AR-15? Um, when you're outgunned, you find cover. If I was in there, you bet your ass I'd chicken out. I'm not going against an AR-15.

Also, in the video clip from the second article, they say the gun used by one of the criminals looked like this and show a Bushmaster with the happy switch.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:18:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Who cares?
I don't see why you guys are getting so worked up.
The socialists want to fuck us, and they will.
Just a matter of time.
I accept it as an inevitability that it will end in shooting between us and the socialists.




Well they had better arm themselves then.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:19:05 AM EDT
Handgun vs. AR Find cover and if you can shoot shoot but otherwise stay calm and let them take money. You are outgunned.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:20:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:21:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
Somebody's been watching too much "Heat".





And they paid attention too.
They were on a short clock and got out of dodge in under a minute.
The only thing they didn't do was burn the stolen get away car.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 6:22:09 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By falaholic1:

Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Does it have a flash suppressor? If so at least he has a banned version



Looked like an AK brake



Yeah you can see the hole through it. Thank God they were ban complaint guns so those customers were in no danger.

Well we can be assured that they had not intention of shooting it. Who would want to shoot an AR w/AK brake inside.
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