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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:08:33 AM EDT
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Some one would still find out you have a shit load of $$$ and bug you for free shit.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:08:54 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:09:34 AM EDT
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There's a good thread floating around here somewhere about what a winner should do. If I find it I'll drop the link in here.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:09:49 AM EDT
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It you win, I believe the best way to keep it on the DL is to claim it through a trust, with yourself as the executor/director/trustee/whatever.
That stuff isnt public record, and as long as you kept your mouth shut, it would be pretty tough to determine who actually won... At least I think thats what my finance teacher said, but that was years ago. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:11:24 AM EDT
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Just move and don't tell anybody.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:11:50 AM EDT
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Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over?
Operator, get me Omaha........... 
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:11:55 AM EDT
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Since the Mega Millions at a rediculous high, I figured now was a good time to ask what lawyer types had to say about an after win plan I was thinking about. Obviously you would not only hear from everyone you ever knew, but friends you didn't know you had. In an effort to reduce or elimiate that potential problem, would it be possible to sell your ticket? If the take home after taxes was $150 million.... Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over? 
Take payments. When you receive your first check FLEE to another part of the country and set up everything there. Come back when everything is set up. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:13:24 AM EDT
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Since the Mega Millions at a rediculous high, I figured now was a good time to ask what lawyer types had to say about an after win plan I was thinking about. Obviously you would not only hear from everyone you ever knew, but friends you didn't know you had. In an effort to reduce or elimiate that potential problem, would it be possible to sell your ticket? If the take home after taxes was $150 million.... Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over? Not a lawyer, but: Selling a lottery ticket would be an incredibly stupid move because if it's a physical ticket, the person who has the ticket makes the claim...and once the other dude claims the money he now has it and what exactly do you think the odds are that he'll hand over 100 million to you? You going to come up with a contract that you think is going to stand up in court or something? Ya. Good luck. Not to mention it's probably a violation of the terms of the lottery, which the lotto organization probably has full legal right to do something about...like not award the money. In a state with a publicity requirement your name will get out there. Yes, scumbag relatives will show up with a hand out...but you know what? Driving to your mansion in your 911 turbo will probably significantly ease the discomfort. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:14:44 AM EDT
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How about:
"Yes I won the lottery..... Oh you want what? Fuck off & Kiss my ass..... have a nice day!" |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:17:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: Since the Mega Millions at a rediculous high, I figured now was a good time to ask what lawyer types had to say about an after win plan I was thinking about. Obviously you would not only hear from everyone you ever knew, but friends you didn't know you had. In an effort to reduce or elimiate that potential problem, would it be possible to sell your ticket? If the take home after taxes was $150 million.... Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over? My uncle won the largest Lotto in Texas at the time - $72M split 4 ways, he wound up with $17M. It is almost impossible to remain anonymous. Here in Texas for example they publish the store that sold it. They know the time it was sold, stores have used security footage to ID buyers. They can see your car/plates, etc. There is also tremendous pressure to attend a press conference, especially on all-time high winnings. Selling it will often void the ticket, and where it does not, it is stupid as it is a bearer instrument. If you want to try, 1) buy ticket away from where you live. 2) Wait months before turning it in. 3) Use a Trust/Corp and lawyer to make the claim. Even with this, your new spending lifestyle will give you away. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:18:11 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:19:13 AM EDT
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It always amuses me to see people assume that if you or someone you know win the lottery then everyone will crawl out of the woodwork and instantly become your new best friend.
No they won't. The key is to keep your fucking mouth shut, which a lot of people have a hard time doing. Never claim the winnings as yourself. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:19:33 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. ...only in Virginia trusts cannot claim. It has to be claimed by the individual and a certain level of publicity is required as part of the terms of winning. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:20:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: It always amuses me to see people assume that if you or someone you know win the lottery then everyone will crawl out of the woodwork and instantly become your new best friend. No they won't. The key is to keep your fucking mouth shut, which a lot of people have a hard time doing. Never claim the winnings as yourself. Obviously you never won millions playing the lottery. Nor have I, but my first-hand experience with my Uncle (see above), contradicts everything you wrote. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:26:16 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. ...only in Virginia trusts cannot claim. It has to be claimed by the individual and a certain level of publicity is required as part of the terms of winning. Wear a hoodie and shades at the ceremony! 
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:27:51 AM EDT
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I'm wondering just how hard is it to tell all of your new "best" friends just to fuck off? Seriously, I have a list of people in the back of my mind that would get a share of my good fortune. Anyone not on that list can go choke themselves.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:29:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:30:38 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. ...only in Virginia trusts cannot claim. It has to be claimed by the individual and a certain level of publicity is required as part of the terms of winning. This is really the only hindrance to what the OP wants to do. If the lotto rules require X, Y, and Z, things become tricky. If not, doing it anonymously is stupid easy. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:34:28 AM EDT
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How about: "Yes I won the lottery..... Oh you want what? Fuck off & Kiss my ass..... have a nice day!" This. "No. You can't have any money." |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:37:50 AM EDT
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Learn how to say "no," you'd be doing a lot more of it.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:39:52 AM EDT
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In short you're going to be making a lawyer rich.
and I'll still build my Pablo Escobar fortress and charity for free room and board for marine scout snipers as they leave .mil and transition to civilian life |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:40:34 AM EDT
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I'm wondering just how hard is it to tell all of your new "best" friends just to fuck off? Seriously, I have a list of people in the back of my mind that would get a share of my good fortune. Anyone not on that list can go choke themselves. It's easy to tell someone to fuck off. The hard part is repeating that line five thousand times per day for the indefinite future. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:42:57 AM EDT
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Learning how to say no to yourself might be hard too. Yes you can afford to run barefoot and naked through the Ferrari dealership for the third time this week, but do you really need to?
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:48:01 AM EDT
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I'm wondering just how hard is it to tell all of your new "best" friends just to fuck off? Seriously, I have a list of people in the back of my mind that would get a share of my good fortune. Anyone not on that list can go choke themselves. It's easy to tell someone to fuck off. The hard part is repeating that line five thousand times per day for the indefinite future. +1 and using a pre-paid cell because everyone else will be calling your "public" number, your email, your mailing address and stopping by dozens of times per day asking for money or trying to chum up. You'll literally have to go off the grid until the attention dies down to a dull roar. Not to mention, you'll be telling all of your REAL friends and relatives how it feels, what you bought, what you plan on doing, etc etc etc every time you see them for the indefinite future. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 6:49:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:01:09 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. Not possible in some states. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:02:16 AM EDT
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Think paying some family members say $500-$750 a week to stay away is worth it?
That is enought money for them to live on, but not enough to kill them selves with. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:06:39 AM EDT
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Think paying some family members say $500-$750 a week to stay away is worth it? That is enought money for them to live on, but not enough to kill them selves with. It's NEVER enough. You underestimate how pathologic many people's relatives are. You're payday check cashing place to them, but with no credit checks, no accountability, and an endless supply of loans. The $2000/month quickly dries up, another "need to get through the month" scheme for an advance loan that "I'll pay back - with the money you give me!" quickly arises... then you say no. They use their children as leverage, or as hostages: "but little Suzie will starve! We need to get her to a specialist - or in a better school! For the children!!!!" But you still say no, because you're a stone-cold hardcore mofo and you know better. But by now, those people are already hooked on the new lifestyle of $2000/month they didn't get from the government before you came along. They can't even think far enough ahead to save some for taxes - so you'll be on the hook for that too. But again, it's never enough: Same relatives show up - with friends - at 2am while high and without an invitation. You gave money to so-and-so, and it's only "fair" that you do the same for them. Doesn't matter if the story is real or not, it's what they've convinced themselves is true... and It goes downhill from there, and you wind up tied to furniture in your basement while your cokehead relatives accidentally set the place on fire. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:09:19 AM EDT
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Thanks for the link. My biggest fear would be crazy people and the safety of my family.....of course 1 in 172,000,000 is proof I won't have to worry about.... and with $150 million I guess you could hire some pretty good security! Would be a game changer though! 
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:12:06 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm wondering just how hard is it to tell all of your new "best" friends just to fuck off? Seriously, I have a list of people in the back of my mind that would get a share of my good fortune. Anyone not on that list can go choke themselves. Thanks. My biggest fear would be crazy people and the safety of my family.....of course 1 in 172,000,000 is proof I won't have to worry about.... and with $150 million I guess you could hire some pretty good security! Would be a game changer though! I'm telling you a house in the right area, secluded with flower beds at 100, 200, 300, yards The only thing that might give me away is when i start dressing like 80's Colombian drug lords with the beret and mirrored aviators. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:23:32 AM EDT
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I would live like a hobo, never staying in the same cheap hotel twice, until my compound on 10,000 acres in Wyoming was complete. Then I'd settle in.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:27:09 AM EDT
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Yep. Take the lump sum. Put into a blind trust. Live off the interest. Change phone number. Move. Ignore family that comes around or have them arrested for trespassing. Drop Facebook. Forget jealous friends. Enjoy life.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:29:25 AM EDT
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That's the thread I was talking about. Thanks JW for the link. Always a good read for when I feel like daydreaming. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:30:12 AM EDT
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Since the Mega Millions at a rediculous high, I figured now was a good time to ask what lawyer types had to say about an after win plan I was thinking about. Obviously you would not only hear from everyone you ever knew, but friends you didn't know you had. In an effort to reduce or elimiate that potential problem, would it be possible to sell your ticket? If the take home after taxes was $150 million.... Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over? My uncle won the largest Lotto in Texas at the time - $72M split 4 ways, he wound up with $17M. It is almost impossible to remain anonymous. Here in Texas for example they publish the store that sold it. They know the time it was sold, stores have used security footage to ID buyers. They can see your car/plates, etc. There is also tremendous pressure to attend a press conference, especially on all-time high winnings. Selling it will often void the ticket, and where it does not, it is stupid as it is a bearer instrument. If you want to try, 1) buy ticket away from where you live. 2) Wait months before turning it in. 3) Use a Trust/Corp and lawyer to make the claim. Even with this, your new spending lifestyle will give you away. Might I suggest wearing a hoodie while making the purchase? |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:30:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:34:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2012 7:40:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:35:59 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. Quoted:
...only in Virginia trusts cannot claim. It has to be claimed by the individual and a certain level of publicity is required as part of the terms of winning. Quoted:
Not possible in some states. So what is to stop you from using a trust to claim the winnings in states where it is possible? |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:40:26 AM EDT
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Since the Mega Millions at a rediculous high, I figured now was a good time to ask what lawyer types had to say about an after win plan I was thinking about. Obviously you would not only hear from everyone you ever knew, but friends you didn't know you had. In an effort to reduce or elimiate that potential problem, would it be possible to sell your ticket? If the take home after taxes was $150 million.... Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over? My uncle won the largest Lotto in Texas at the time - $72M split 4 ways, he wound up with $17M. It is almost impossible to remain anonymous. Here in Texas for example they publish the store that sold it. They know the time it was sold, stores have used security footage to ID buyers. They can see your car/plates, etc. There is also tremendous pressure to attend a press conference, especially on all-time high winnings. Selling it will often void the ticket, and where it does not, it is stupid as it is a bearer instrument. If you want to try, 1) buy ticket away from where you live. 2) Wait months before turning it in. 3) Use a Trust/Corp and lawyer to make the claim. Even with this, your new spending lifestyle will give you away. Yeeeahhh, good luck with that.... |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:44:35 AM EDT
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Relatives would not bother me. I have a mother a father and one aunt and one cousin. That is my complete family. These people I would want to help out. Other than that anyone else can go fuck them selves. I might buy my only two friends a new vehicle to play with. They are both pretty well off anyways so I dont think they would hound me much.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:49:20 AM EDT
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I'm wondering just how hard is it to tell all of your new "best" friends just to fuck off? Seriously, I have a list of people in the back of my mind that would get a share of my good fortune. Anyone not on that list can go choke themselves. It's easy to tell someone to fuck off. The hard part is repeating that line five thousand times per day for the indefinite future. +1 and using a pre-paid cell because everyone else will be calling your "public" number, your email, your mailing address and stopping by dozens of times per day asking for money or trying to chum up. You'll literally have to go off the grid until the attention dies down to a dull roar. Not to mention, you'll be telling all of your REAL friends and relatives how it feels, what you bought, what you plan on doing, etc etc etc every time you see them for the indefinite future. It's pretty easy to set up an "allow" list using google voice. If they're not on your list, reject the call. Email is easy to set up that way to. Stopping people from dropping by is harder, but not impossible. I wouldn't mind talking with my REAL friends and relatives because those are the people I'd be sharing with and I'd want to be planning on doing things and going places with them. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:50:52 AM EDT
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it'll be some back-woods redneck winning it.
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:53:27 AM EDT
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Since the Mega Millions at a rediculous high, I figured now was a good time to ask what lawyer types had to say about an after win plan I was thinking about. Obviously you would not only hear from everyone you ever knew, but friends you didn't know you had. In an effort to reduce or elimiate that potential problem, would it be possible to sell your ticket? If the take home after taxes was $150 million.... Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over? My uncle won the largest Lotto in Texas at the time - $72M split 4 ways, he wound up with $17M. It is almost impossible to remain anonymous. Here in Texas for example they publish the store that sold it. They know the time it was sold, stores have used security footage to ID buyers. They can see your car/plates, etc. There is also tremendous pressure to attend a press conference, especially on all-time high winnings. Selling it will often void the ticket, and where it does not, it is stupid as it is a bearer instrument. If you want to try, 1) buy ticket away from where you live. 2) Wait months before turning it in. 3) Use a Trust/Corp and lawyer to make the claim. Even with this, your new spending lifestyle will give you away. Yeeeahhh, good luck with that.... thats what i was thinking. if i win, i bet i am at the state claim office before they quit calling the last number
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:53:37 AM EDT
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Could you sell the ticket for $100 million and have an agreement written which would, A. Get you paid immediately after the buyer collected and still remain anonymous? B. Keep you from getting screwed after you hand it over?
Operator, get me Omaha........... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Warren_Buffett_KU_Visit.jpg/200px-Warren_Buffett_KU_Visit.jpg That old gentleman would be the last clown that I'd call. His advice?," just write a check to washington and write another to my friend Gates." |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 8:57:50 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: How about: "Yes I won the lottery..... Oh you want what? Fuck off & Kiss my ass..... have a nice day!" This. "No. You can't have any money." Sir, I regret to inform you you are being sued for money owed to Mr. and Mrs. YouHaveNeverHeardOfMe. They claim you owe them 12million dollars for the one time you borrowed their weedwacker and ran it low on gasoline. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:01:22 AM EDT
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Certain information regarding our winners is published and made available. The Lottery will publish and upon request, make available a winner's name, city or town of residence, date and amount of win and the name/location of the retailer that sold the winning ticket. A winner's home or street address and phone number are not published and will not be disclosed unless required by law.
While most winners claim prizes using their individual names, periodically, winners do come forward using other legal entities (i.e., trusts, business partnership) to claim their prizes. In those instances, the Lottery will promote the win using that legal entity's name. From CTlottery.org |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:01:45 AM EDT
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No I would not try to do what OP suggests. For a few reasons. 1) the chance of getting screwed out of your money or being busted for violating some lottery rule and forfeiting prize is not worth it; 2) people will find out you have money. There's no hiding it unless you just don't spend it. hard to do with $100 million.
Me, half the fun would be telling people to eff themselves who come looking for a handout. "Oh, you didn't help me when I really needed it, but now you want how much from me? Eff off". "Oh, you broke up with me/divorced me because I could not keep you in the lifestyle which you thought you were entitled? Eff off". The karmic satisfaction would be very very tasty indeed. Screw being anonymous. I'd own it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:02:20 AM EDT
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How about: "Yes I won the lottery..... Oh you want what? Fuck off & Kiss my ass..... have a nice day!" This. "No. You can't have any money." Sir, I regret to inform you you are being sued for money owed to Mr. and Mrs. YouHaveNeverHeardOfMe. They claim you owe them 12million dollars for the one time you borrowed their weedwacker and ran it low on gasoline. 
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:07:44 AM EDT
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More like don't kid yourself that somehow everything will stay the same. All your friends and family will have to be 'vetted' again. |
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:15:07 AM EDT
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There are easier ways to anonymously claim lottery winnings. Just Google it...there are even lawyers out there who have blogged about this topic. Set up the Hugh G. Rection Revocable Trust. Trust claims prize. Appoint reputable lawyer (there are a few) to serve as trustee to distribute money to you as the beneficiary. No one s the wiser. ...only in Virginia trusts cannot claim. It has to be claimed by the individual and a certain level of publicity is required as part of the terms of winning. Wear a hoodie and shades at the ceremony!
I'd be wearing a disguise so complete my own mother wouldn't be able to recognize me. |
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