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Posted: 10/24/2013 8:59:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:01:45 PM EST
The proper solution was to fire all of the striking workers for cutting work.



OTOH, most of the "protestors" were likely union goons posing as fast food workers.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:03:33 PM EST
Oooooor you could better yourself and move up.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:08:07 PM EST
I have stopped eating fast food at all, and I don't miss it one bit. I'm not going back.

Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:21:53 PM EST
actually, their real plan will be automation
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:27:59 PM EST
McFacepalm
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:32:10 PM EST
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:33:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?
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Brilliant
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:35:39 PM EST
McRobots are right around the corner.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:36:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?
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Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:39:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?
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[manhug] no homo


Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:47:21 PM EST
Damn

Was expecting a robot burger making machine lol
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:51:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
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Well.. that was different!
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:53:41 PM EST
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:55:37 PM EST
Visual aids can also be very helpful...

Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:58:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Well.. that was different!
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
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Well.. that was different!

What, you didn't take English in high school?
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 9:59:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.
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Great logic there, since then taxpayers would then have to foot the bill of an entire unemployed workforce...


Ever think of going to work for Obama? With stratergery like that he could make you minister of finance!
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:01:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By phurba:

What, you didn't take English in high school?
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Originally Posted By phurba:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIm93Xuij7k
Well.. that was different!

What, you didn't take English in high school?
I went to a pretty shitty public school.


-ETA You know all the required reading American students have been doing since the dawn of time? Yea, never did that.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:20:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:


Great logic there, since then taxpayers would then have to foot the bill of an entire unemployed workforce...


Ever think of going to work for Obama? With stratergery like that he could make you minister of finance!
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.


Great logic there, since then taxpayers would then have to foot the bill of an entire unemployed workforce...


Ever think of going to work for Obama? With stratergery like that he could make you minister of finance!


ah fuckem, their food sucks and they don't pay thier employees enough to pay their power bill.
If not for tax payers subsidizing Mcshits work force the would be out of buisness.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:35:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/24/2013 10:42:35 PM EST by Northwind]
Eta: Never mind, I'm wrong...
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:36:59 PM EST
I was hoping for Robots/Mechanization.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:39:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By M-60:
I have stopped eating fast food at all, and I don't miss it one bit. I'm not going back.

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I stopped eating McDonald's for about 3 months. Got a burger today, because I was in a hurry and it was my only option. Tasted like shit. When I eat fast food now, it is whataburger or jack in the box.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:41:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:


I stopped eating McDonald's for about 3 months. Got a burger today, because I was in a hurry and it was my only option. Tasted like shit. When I eat fast food now, it is whataburger or jack in the box.
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
Originally Posted By M-60:
I have stopped eating fast food at all, and I don't miss it one bit. I'm not going back.



I stopped eating McDonald's for about 3 months. Got a burger today, because I was in a hurry and it was my only option. Tasted like shit. When I eat fast food now, it is whataburger or jack in the box.

Same here, except for hate chicken. Twice a month... delicious hate chicken
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 10:58:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.
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Wait, what?

Please tell me you're joking.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:02:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
they don't pay thier employees enough to pay their power bill.
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$7.25/hr x 8 hrs x 30 days = $1,740

If your power bill is $1,740 per month, you're probably growing something that pays enough to quit your job at McDonalds anyway...

Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:03:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:


ah fuckem, their food sucks and they don't pay thier employees enough to pay their power bill.
If not for tax payers subsidizing Mcshits work force the would be out of buisness.
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.


Great logic there, since then taxpayers would then have to foot the bill of an entire unemployed workforce...


Ever think of going to work for Obama? With stratergery like that he could make you minister of finance!


ah fuckem, their food sucks and they don't pay thier employees enough to pay their power bill.
If not for tax payers subsidizing Mcshits work force the would be out of buisness.
How did you come to that conclusion?



ETA- Do you also support the minimum wage laws to ensure people get paid enough?
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:06:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.


What should McDonalds pay their employees? Please explain your reasoning and the impacts of such a change.




workers have organized protests around the country, including New York City, Los Angeles, Memphis and Detroit calling for a minimum wage of $15 an hour and the right to organize without retaliation.

The lack of understanding of simple math and basic economics is astounding...it's like dealing with McDonald's workers.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:25:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Skibane:


$7.25/hr x 8 hrs x 30 days = $1,740

If your power bill is $1,740 per month, you're probably growing something that pays enough to quit your job at McDonalds anyway...

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Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
they don't pay thier employees enough to pay their power bill.


$7.25/hr x 8 hrs x 30 days = $1,740

If your power bill is $1,740 per month, you're probably growing something that pays enough to quit your job at McDonalds anyway...

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7255/mo6a.jpg



You work 30 days a month?
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:30:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kill-9:
McRobots are right around the corner.
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That is not a solution, it is a bandaid. As the bar for gainful employment is continually raised, we as a society need to have a serious conversation on how we're going to deal with having an ever increasing segment of the population that the economy simply can't employ/doesn't need.

Either you can get out in front of this problem or wait for someone else too. If you want them to better themselves then you need to provide publicly funded job training and job placement. If you want them to have a higher level of education then that system needs overhauled to end the crushing debt students take on. On the other hand, you could contine to stand on a soap box and decry how they should better themselves or starve. Which simply prolongs the problem/suffering and they'll simply continue to out vote you. I know...bootstraps, but that's empty rehetoric that gives us the current situation of the public subsidizing these companies' business model through public assistance. The bottom line is that we as a society have decided not to throw people to the wolves (mostly). Either adapt to that reality and find a way to make a workable system that rewards effort or continue to bitch about the "communists taking over the country" on GD while the welfare state increases every year. Or, continue to ignore the problem and simply mock those people. What could possibly go wrong
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:38:56 PM EST
Inflation happens regardless of pay of fast food workers in my opinion. Fast food workers almost by definition have zero bargaining power, without intervention of wage in my opinion they'd be making an unfair wage and people would still be doing it without much choice, which as someone older with bargaining power don't see as a fair value on the work the unskilled workers do. In that respect I support intervention to set a minimum wage and for minimum wage to follow inflation, call me what you want :P.

Sure shouldn't be $15 at today's dollar though...
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:41:14 PM EST
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I can't wait until the order screens are turned to face the customer.
Link Posted: 10/24/2013 11:43:07 PM EST
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One $250,000 automated hamburger maker at each store in the future and they won't have to worry about it. One maintenance guy for each multi store franchise is a lot cheaper than dealing with minimum wage hassles.

Minimum skill = minimum pay. If they could legally pay you less they would and could replace you with a half of a days notice.

My brother in law is a supervisor for a large franchise here. Because the economy never went into the toilet as much as the rest of the country they have a hard time getting people. They currently pay $11.00 starting pay and that's not bad in the south. A couple making $11/hour working 40 hours a week = $45k a year for basically no skills. My BIL started at McDonalds in high school making minimum wage and now makes 6 figures as a supervisor with a company car.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:01:56 AM EST
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So these people want $600 a week to fuck up 50% of the orders in the drive thru at McDonald's? They've been working there for years? These are 30 Somethings that pump out kids and work at McDonald's? So these people aren't qualified to get a better paying job so there trying to BLACKMAIL McDonald's to pay them more? If I remember right, back in the 70-80's didn't kids work at McDonald's when they were in high school then moved on to better paying jobs after they got out of school? Has this country LOST IT'S FUCKING MIND?



Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:07:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:

So these people want $600 a week to fuck up 50% of the orders in the drive thru at McDonald's? They've been working there for years? These are 30 Somethings that pump out kids and work at McDonald's? So these people aren't qualified to get a better paying job so there trying to BLACKMAIL McDonald's to pay them more? If I remember right, back in the 70-80's didn't kids work at McDonald's when they were in high school then moved on to better paying jobs after they got out of school? Has this country LOST IT'S FUCKING MIND?



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In the 70s and 80s these people could goto a mill to earn a good living. Those jobs are gone and this is the result.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:13:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Choking_Hazard:


In the 70s and 80s these people could goto a mill to earn a good living. Those jobs are gone and this is the result.
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Originally Posted By Choking_Hazard:
Originally Posted By ScooterInVegas:

So these people want $600 a week to fuck up 50% of the orders in the drive thru at McDonald's? They've been working there for years? These are 30 Somethings that pump out kids and work at McDonald's? So these people aren't qualified to get a better paying job so there trying to BLACKMAIL McDonald's to pay them more? If I remember right, back in the 70-80's didn't kids work at McDonald's when they were in high school then moved on to better paying jobs after they got out of school? Has this country LOST IT'S FUCKING MIND?





In the 70s and 80s these people could goto a mill to earn a good living. Those jobs are gone and this is the result.



This is the result of an entitlement driven generation. Not global workforce markets.

There are plenty of opportunities out there. Real life doesn't hand you an award for just showing up.
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.
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Minimum wage jobs are for school kids to earn money while in school.

Not for people to spend their life at the bottom of the heap. If they decide not paying bills or looking to improve to earn more, and then decide that's the time to add a family to the mix, then they have failed twice over.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:24:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GrasshopperNOmore:
This is the result of an entitlement driven generation. Not global workforce markets.

There are plenty of opportunities out there. Real life doesn't hand you an award for just showing up.
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Where could these people goto, en mass, to earn a middle class living today?
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Originally Posted By mmf:


Minimum wage jobs are for school kids to earn money while in school.

Not for people to spend their life at the bottom of the heap. If they decide not paying bills or looking to improve to earn more, and then decide that's the time to add a family to the mix, then they have failed twice over.
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Originally Posted By mmf:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
If McDonald cannot pay their employees a livable wage the they should close their doors.

Fuck McDonald's tax payers should not have to subsidize their workforce.


Minimum wage jobs are for school kids to earn money while in school.

Not for people to spend their life at the bottom of the heap. If they decide not paying bills or looking to improve to earn more, and then decide that's the time to add a family to the mix, then they have failed twice over.


People don't understand this.

It's just like the "everyone gets a trophy" only now everyone should have a house, two cars, big screen TVs, and the latest fashions.
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?
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There would be a lot but the losers would cry "unfair" and sue for their jobs back.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 12:53:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fistpoint:



You work 30 days a month?
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Originally Posted By Skibane:
Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
they don't pay thier employees enough to pay their power bill.


$7.25/hr x 8 hrs x 30 days = $1,740

If your power bill is $1,740 per month, you're probably growing something that pays enough to quit your job at McDonalds anyway...

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7255/mo6a.jpg



You work 30 days a month?

When I was making that kind of money, I worked every minute they let me.
If someone is making that kind of money and struggling to pay their power bill, they ought to either work as much as they can, or reconsider their living situation.
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my kids look at me in horror when I tell them how much I made for my first job after college/trade school.

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Originally Posted By AR45fan:

There would be a lot but the losers would cry "unfair" and sue for their jobs back.
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Originally Posted By AR45fan:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?

There would be a lot but the losers would cry "unfair" and sue for their jobs back.
Good point!



Make the 2/3rd that kept their job employee-owners, and personally liable...


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Originally Posted By AR45fan:

There would be a lot but the losers would cry "unfair" and sue for their jobs back.
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Originally Posted By AR45fan:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Is pay set by corporate? I thought McD's were Franchise stores?


If not, or if pay is set by corporate, have a lay off lottery. Anyone who want's higher pay can draw a ticket.


The lottery will fire 1/3rd of all participants, and those that remain split the newly available money.

The fired 1/3rd are barred from rehire for life.


Everyone who chooses not to participate stays at their same pay structure, and such.



Wonder how many takers there would be?

There would be a lot but the losers would cry "unfair" and sue for their jobs back.


Your avatar makes me happy.
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Originally Posted By Choking_Hazard:


Where could these people goto, en mass, to earn a middle class living today?
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Originally Posted By Choking_Hazard:
Originally Posted By GrasshopperNOmore:
This is the result of an entitlement driven generation. Not global workforce markets.

There are plenty of opportunities out there. Real life doesn't hand you an award for just showing up.


Where could these people goto, en mass, to earn a middle class living today?


Well, around my area, warehouse work starts at $15/hour. Ads are in the paper (to the point of being obnoxious) every weekend.

Waiting tables probably averages 12-14/hr. Olive Garden, not the senior citizen's diner.

And there are still plenty of manufacturing jobs around here. I see ads for welders the most.

Simply having a HS diploma and clean pee gets you twice minimum wage around here. That's basically "just showing up" in the grand scheme of things.






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Originally Posted By phurba:

What, you didn't take English in high school?
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Originally Posted By Madcap72:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Originally Posted By Madcap72:
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Well.. that was different!

What, you didn't take English in high school?

I figured that's what it was. We saw that in 7th grade.


Originally Posted By Skibane:
Visual aids can also be very helpful...

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Sometimes the simplest answer is the one they don't want to pay attention to.
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Originally Posted By hotbiggun42:
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Or people should not try to make a living at McDonalds. It should not be more than a side job for anybody past college.
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 1:24:12 AM EST
"One double baco cheese burger...... It's for a cop."
Link Posted: 10/25/2013 1:26:49 AM EST
Union = copout for a dead beat. Most of the people at McD's would not improve their work performance no matter what wage they were paid.
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