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Posted: 6/19/2003 5:49:30 PM EDT
[url]http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20030617-114826-6331r.htm[/url] Annapolis lawmaker puts toy guns in cross hairs By Judith Person THE WASHINGTON TIMES An Annapolis lawmaker wants to enact a law that would ban most toy guns in the city and fine parents whose children are caught playing with the toys outdoors. Alderwoman Cynthia A. Carter, Democrat, said the law would ban all toy guns except for clear, brightly colored plastic guns. Mrs. Carter said the law also would give prosecutors more leverage against defendants who use toy guns to hold up banks or other establishments. "If someone commits a felony with one, they will not only be charged with the crime but also with using a toy gun," said Mrs. Carter, who has been a member on the Annapolis City Council since 1997. Mrs. Carter said she doesn't know how much of a fine she will propose. She said she hopes her legislation, which she plans to introduce next month, will set a precedent for other cities to follow. Four of the nine city council members have come out in support of Mrs. Carter's proposal. "Anything that can be done to deglamorize guns is a plus," said Annapolis Mayor Ellen O. Moyer, Democrat. The mayor said she would withhold further comment until the bill has been introduced and a public hearing is held. Yesterday, officials with the Annapolis Police Department said if such a law is enacted they would not pull officers off their regular beats to catch children playing with water pistols and cap guns in schoolyards or on neighborhood streets. "We wouldn't do that," said Officer Hal Dalton, a spokesman for the city police department. Mrs. Carter decided to draft her proposal after a 7-year-old boy in April used a silver toy revolver and announced to several employees at a Hollywood Video store in Annapolis that he would hold up the store. The plastic orange tip typically found on the muzzles of toy guns had been removed, preventing two store employees from realizing it was fake. "Children have got to be alerted that this is a dangerous thing," Mrs. Carter said. "Guns are not a toy, no matter how you look at it." Mrs. Carter's legislation is based on a similar New York City proposal, which bans anyone from selling or possessing a "toy or imitation firearm" that can be mistaken for a real weapon. The ban excludes brightly colored or clear plastic guns. Police, however, could impose a $50 fine if the toy gun is altered to look like a real weapon. New York City police would enforce the law only if a child causes a disruption in public with a toy gun. But Lupe Todd, a spokeswoman for the New York City Council, said she does not expect officers to seek out children playing with toy guns. Mrs. Carter said she wants the toy companies to take more responsibility when creating guns. "Toy companies think that they can put the little reflective tip on the end and they will be OK," Mrs. Carter said. "But it is not enough." Shannon Eis, spokeswoman for the Toy Industry Association, said the group already complies with national standards that regulate the production of realistic toy weapons. "Toy guns are just a small component of the violent medium that kids nowadays are exposed to," she said. Mrs. Eis said the association will comply with Annapolis regulations if they are approved and will try to appease parents who think the toys are a serious contributing factor to violence. "I don't agree that it is," she said. Karalyn Mulligan, executive director of Prevent Child Abuse Maryland, said there is always a concern about children's safety when it comes to guns. But she said the idea of restricting toy guns deserves further investigation. Mrs. Carter is known for her efforts on toy guns. In 2000, Mrs. Carter organized a toy-gun buyback that yielded 12 toy guns. Mrs. Carter said she anticipates full support from all council members. The council is made up of two Republicans and seven Democrats. She speculates that her greatest obstacle will be fathers, who she believes encourage their sons to play with guns and take them to target practice. Despite her stance on toy guns, Mrs. Carter said she supports her son, Richard Perry, 38, who is an avid hunter and a member of the National Rifle Association. "He is a grown man. That was his decision," she said. Mrs. Carter said she would eventually like to see a ban imposed on the possession of all real-looking toy guns. "Anything that looks like or resembles a weapon of any kind or was altered to look like, even the cigarette lighters, they are not going to be acceptable," she said.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 5:50:18 PM EDT
PLEASE, Al Queada. If your reading. NUKE This POS State!
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:09:50 PM EDT
wait, wait, wait....so they're saying that taking away toys is going to somehow save lives, or cut back on crime? no, they just dont think kids should have fun. If kids cant play with toy guns it is going to cost more to teach proper finger control and sight alignment when they are older. And who is going to pay for it... the tax payer.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:17:40 PM EDT
This takes brain dead liberalism to all new heights!
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:21:13 PM EDT
would ban all toy guns except for clear, brightly colored plastic guns
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Clear AND brightly colored hm? Interesting.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:26:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By markm: This takes brain dead liberalism to all new heights!
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Do they have brains? "Am no like gun toy. No have you gun toy. Am me so talk!" Bilster
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:28:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:39:46 PM EDT
[whacko]
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:41:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 6:42:27 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
[Fast forward 10 years] That old toygun ban is not good enough anymore!!! Round up all capguns, squirt guns, supersoakers, foam ball-shooters, spaceman laser guns, Star Trek "phaser" toys or ANYTHING resembling a firearm! What about "virtual" guns in video games? Gotta round all them Playstation games too. And what about those little tiny toy guns held by those evil green army men toys? Those are toy guns too. Fork 'em over Junior! And what about photographs of guns? No kids will be allowed to carry any firearm magazines or pictures of soldiers with guns either - even if it's a picture of their Dad. NO CHILD SHOULD EVER BE EXPOSED TO [b]ANY[/b] REPLICA, FACSIMILE OR IMAGE OF ANY TYPE OF GUN!! [smash] That way when this generation grows up and the Gov't wants to confiscate all REAL firearms, these folks will duck and pee their pants at the very mention of the word "gun".
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 7:36:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 7:38:12 PM EDT by Andreuha]
Originally Posted By The_Macallan: [Fast forward 10 years] That old toygun ban is not good enough anymore!!! Round up all capguns, squirt guns, supersoakers, foam ball-shooters, spaceman laser guns, Star Trek "phaser" toys or ANYTHING resembling a firearm! What about "virtual" guns in video games? Gotta round all them Playstation games too. And what about those little tiny toy guns held by those evil green army men toys? Those are toy guns too. Fork 'em over Junior! And what about photographs of guns? No kids will be allowed to carry any firearm magazines or pictures of soldiers with guns either - even if it's a picture of their Dad. NO CHILD SHOULD EVER BE EXPOSED TO [b]ANY[/b] REPLICA, FACSIMILE OR IMAGE OF ANY TYPE OF GUN!! [smash] That way when this generation grows up and the Gov't wants to confiscate all REAL firearms, these folks will duck and pee their pants at the very mention of the word "gun".
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Unfortunately, you are VERY correct. The only [i]true[/i] solution would be a system similar to pioneers back in the USSR (not to sound socialist, but thats what [B]I[/b] remember, plus I passed up on boyscouts in elementary school, here). Basically, its like Boyscouts, but better, and integrated with school. Your rank and your grade level are intertwined. They taught the camping/survival crap, but were also big on guns(and safety). In groups, everyone got to go to a range once in a while. Everyone got a turn to shoot everything from .22 plinkers to mounted, heavy MG's. Oh, and the programs were PATRIOTIC- something you don't see much of in this nation anymore. The program also prepared boys for military service once they were of age, I'm not sure if that bad in any way, as it kept them in shape, and disciplined(As opposed to these 'gangsta' punks we have dragging our society down today, and the obese) Again, I don't like bringing socialist examples into the picture, but thats what I remember. Hell, let parents sign their kids out of it if they strongly oppose it (The kids may over-ride that if they choose- they may be young, but its THEIR lives).
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 8:18:04 PM EDT
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Just For Your Infomation: [url]www.RKBA.org/antis/hci-master[/url] Allege 1993 feinstein/hci PRETEXT for TOTAL Gun Freedom Confiscation. [size=1]* Ban on all realistic replicas/toy guns or non-firearms capable of being rendered realistic Legal Point 3: Suing the makers of toy/replica guns, toy weapons and violent entertainment: One of the purveyors of violence to society, companies which profit off of violence would eventually be identified and made legally responsible for the violent acts inspired by their products. A study would have to be created to bind these companies to those actions taken as a result of their products. There is already current pressure for the makers of toy guns, realistic or not, to concentrate on safer toys which do not exploit violence. The threat of legal action would convince many manufacturers and distributors that other non-violence related toys would be more worthwhile to sell to the community. Lawsuits against the makers of violent entertainment and violence related recreational materials and toys, would make these companies and individuals fiscally accountable for the cost to society incurred as a result of their peddled merchandise. The items could include: Violent Video games, television shows, movies, video tapes, water guns, super soakers, electronic noise guns, replica guns, toy weapons like swords, batons, martial arts items. Ultimately such action would take the [b]glamour and attraction[/b] out of firearms ownership and decrease the numbers of gun owners in the U.S. _to a manageable number._ IV. _Reduction of Gun Owner Population and Potential Yearly Revenue_[/size=1] Quote: "Anything that can be done to [b]deglamorize[/b] guns is a plus," said Annapolis Mayor Ellen O. Moyer, Democrat. On Schedule. [size=1]^ Million Gun Freedom March on Washington July 4th, 2003. A Well-Regulated Militia Being Necessary To The... [url]www.Cures-not-wars.org/[/url] Truth Will Liberate Earth. [url]www.RKBA.org/antis/hci-master[/url]Allege 1993 feinstein/hci PRETEXT for TOTAL Gun Freedom Confiscation. [url]www.digitalAngel.net/[/url]Revelation 13:18 ID-GPS-MONEY [red]BAN[/red] Human Power Implant Micro-chip. Never Again, Never Forget -- Seek the Truth , Liberate Your Mind -- We Are At War[/size=1] FIXED BAYONETS -- FORWARD VX
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 8:33:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By VX: Ultimately such action would take the [b]glamour and attraction[/b] out of firearms ownership and decrease the numbers of gun owners in the U.S. _to[red] a manageable number.[/red] VX
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Hmmm Managable for whom? The JBT's?
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 8:45:39 PM EDT
In a few years, children there will have their fingers surgically removed (at tax-payer expense) just for pointing them as if their hand was a gun.
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:07:43 PM EDT
[b]"Mrs. Carter is known for her efforts on toy guns."[/b] Wow. Now there's a legacy anyone would be proud of, eh? [b]"In 2000, Mrs. Carter organized a toy-gun buyback that yielded 12 toy guns."[/b] Er...maybe not. cynic
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:08:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 9:15:30 PM EDT by Andreuha]
VX. I just read through and had a good laugh at that pretext of total confiscation by Dianne Freikinstein. This one was extra funny
Banning of High Powered Ammo or Wounding ammo
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Would that mean we can all own rubber and simmunition rounds only? But those are already strictly controlled. I'll do my best to attend that march. So.. Where are we going to throw the big festival when Freinstein croaks?
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:23:37 PM EDT
One word , PREEMPTION No state or city can make a law that is covered by a federal law already. The Fed govt. already has a law abouit toy guns and the little red thing on the end of the barrel. Wait and see some lawyer will let them waste all their time and some money and walk in and say "preemtption" see ya,case dismissed!
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 9:58:50 PM EDT
Its just a matter of time fellas[;)]
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