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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:11:26 AM EST
Going to have it all.

“Married Pennsylvania cop Ronald Davis is charged after being filmed forcibly arresting mistress then having her committed after telling he'd 'make her look crazy' when they broke up”.

Video at link.

fnh
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:16:15 AM EST
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He's going to be popular in jail.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:21:58 AM EST
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That'll teach her to break up with him
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:22:09 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:22:43 AM EST
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Must be more to the story of this very particular bad apple.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:23:52 AM EST
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Did I read that right? Dude lives in a van down by the river!? Chris Farley was only trying to warn us.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:24:23 AM EST
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Has the Supreme Court ruled that these particular circumstances are unconstitutional?
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:25:37 AM EST
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First I was thinking "A mistress, on a cop's salary?" then I saw the pics.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:27:39 AM EST
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Involuntary committals can be abused and ruin people’s lives.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:28:03 AM EST
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Was the cop filming it also arrested?

I hope so pending some serious extenuating circumstances
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:28:04 AM EST
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Had to get it on after getting it on.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:31:53 AM EST
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Wow what a RARE occurrence! Looks to be 4  bad apples in the same area yet again? What are the odds of this happening over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again? Weird stuff....



Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:34:42 AM EST
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I would assume it was a body camera.

I the flip side maybe it was best to let the crazy cop do his thing and just record it as now there is the evidence needed to put him away for a long time.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:34:49 AM EST
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Of course he wasn't.  Being accomplices to crimes is okay as long as you wear the right colors.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:35:09 AM EST
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What a sick SOB.  He definitely doesn’t belong in law enforcement at the very least.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:35:39 AM EST
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They should look to see if any with or crack is missing from the evidence lock up. He was definitely paying her with meth or crack.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:38:16 AM EST
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Yeah, usually the same story, everyone knew he was a POS and someone finally had the guts or evidence to prove it.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:38:49 AM EST
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She will not get the Midcap stamp of approval
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:42:12 AM EST
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Mistress Methbilly.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:42:33 AM EST
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So….dickhead was banging a methhead?
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:42:53 AM EST
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This has been discussed on Twitter quite a bit.  @Aimless has weighed in there quite a bit.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:43:01 AM EST
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What charges will the guy filing face?  Fucking dude stood there and watched it all
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:44:29 AM EST
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Reminds me of this asshole.

Drunk off-duty deputy tries to arrest female soldier at bar when she wouldn't go home with him


Worst part is the sheriff initially got all butt hurt about the local PD arresting his guy. At least they fired him eventually.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:47:52 AM EST
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Thus likely a large payout on for the state of PA
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:48:38 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:50:24 AM EST
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Yeah the cop contacted whoever in PA draws up papers to have people involuntary committed to get his ex girlfriend committed, sat on her and had her committed. He's in jail on no bail and has a bunch of felony charges like assault and strangulation. I'd be shocked if he avoids prison time.

It's a pretty frightening abuse of the system. I wonder how long she was held. I would think "that's my ex boyfriend" would have had the mental health facility calling their lawyer and letting her go but how knows. I know of people who were held in fabricated claims at least over night
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I wouldn't be surprised if the phrase "sure he was" was said in reaction to that.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:52:57 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:55:15 AM EST
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Damn, I feel bad for her.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 11:56:18 AM EST
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She can sue the dept though...
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:00:37 PM EST
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She ought to be able to beat his ass with a baseball bat.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:05:06 PM EST
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Yeah the cop contacted whoever in PA draws up papers to have people involuntary committed to get his ex girlfriend committed, sat on her and had her committed. He's in jail on no bail and has a bunch of felony charges like assault and strangulation. I'd be shocked if he avoids prison time.

It's a pretty frightening abuse of the system. I wonder how long she was held. I would think "that's my ex boyfriend" would have had the mental health facility calling their lawyer and letting her go but how knows. I know of people who were held in fabricated claims at least over night
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This has been discussed on Twitter quite a bit.  @Aimless has weighed in there quite a bit.
Yeah the cop contacted whoever in PA draws up papers to have people involuntary committed to get his ex girlfriend committed, sat on her and had her committed. He's in jail on no bail and has a bunch of felony charges like assault and strangulation. I'd be shocked if he avoids prison time.

It's a pretty frightening abuse of the system. I wonder how long she was held. I would think "that's my ex boyfriend" would have had the mental health facility calling their lawyer and letting her go but how knows. I know of people who were held in fabricated claims at least over night


In some areas, it's surprisingly easy to get a court order for a mental health detainer. In one jurisdiction I've worked, the court approved an estimated 95% of filings put before the judge.

All that was needed was for any random person to walk in, fill out a four or five page packet with the subject's info, their own info, an explanation of why they needed to be brought in for mental health or substance treatment, and then hand it to the judge, swear that it's contents were true under oath, and blam, essentially a warrant for their arrest is signed. Why no independent investigation? Because having a court do so would take far longer than might be safe, in the event of an emergency mental health crisis.

If you took a high-level view of a given population at large, you'd see that in about 90-98% of cases with someone who really needed treatment, either 911 got called and cops/EMS picked them up, or none of the people around bothered to ever do anything. Of the remaining couple of percentage points, the people actually motivated to go to court and spend an hour writing and filing a petition for a hold were probably family members, and probably doing so because law enforcement had repeatedly said "ehh, not high enough cause for us to grab them". In the cases where I've taken people into custody on a court ordered evaluation, there's not been a single one where it wasn't abundantly clear they needed it.

Offhand I can't think of any cases I've seen of an emergency court filing that was fabricated for personal vindictiveness (though I've seen dozens and dozens of criminal cases where the victim lied to get someone arrested). The limiting factor is that the person making that filing has attached their name to it, and once it becomes clear that the allegations are bullshit and driven out of criminal motive, the party who wrote and swore to it is fucked. The dipshit cop in this story is going to get prison time for it...and it shows the system is still working.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:05:29 PM EST
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It's what Kanye West's handlers tried to do to him

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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:08:17 PM EST
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:14:52 PM EST
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.

I wonder how he met her?
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:15:08 PM EST
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IMO PA state police are a criminal organization. They have been abusing everyone for decades.

Google is your friend here.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:16:40 PM EST
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Is that a struggle cuddle?
Whoever was recording is complicit.
Oh, and the big bad cop used a couple of ilegal wrestling holds...
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:18:21 PM EST
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.

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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:19:45 PM EST
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It's the meth dollar tree mistress not the Chanel type
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:19:46 PM EST
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Is that a struggle cuddle?
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Stop resisting!!!!
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:22:10 PM EST
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.
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Some places make plenty of cash, but stupid cops and firemen will still go after some nasty girl that fills the void in their deviant behavior.


Was probably a source before or related to a previous case.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:24:16 PM EST
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I worked with a cop who was dating a chick he met while he was working the holding cells in the precinct. The relationship ended exactly how you would expect it to.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:29:10 PM EST
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edit I met with a guy who got in an argument with a relative. The relative called 911 and said "guy is going to kill himself" The police came to his house and said "x said you're going to kill your self" he said "x made that up, x is mad because of (whatever) I never said I would kill myself and never thought that" cops took him in cuffs to mental health anyways where he was held overnight, met with a doctor the next morning and released. He was then sued by the mental health facility for "his treatment."

I had a criminal client with serious charges who was going to be taken for arraignment. He was wealthy and would make bail. A police investigator asked him if he was going to harm himself, he said no. Then the investigator asked "have you ever in your life considering harming yourself" "ever? Maybe" they had him institutionalized claiming "he said he would kill himself"

I brought a motion in court to have him released. The prosecutor claimed she wanted him held for a mental health exam. There was nothing wrong with the guy, she just didn't want him bailed out. I told the judge I had talked to him and it was all a dodge to avoid bailing him out. The judge said he'd never seen a prosecutor ask to keep someone in for a mental health exam over a defense attorney's objection (usually the defense attorney asks for the exam) and released him on bail.
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Overall, it's precisely because of these issues that the coresponder programs wind up being the ones solving the problem longer term.

If you take random cop with no access to medical info or further means of researching the claim, and throw them at the "he says this guy is suicidal, this guy says he's not suicidal" it often becomes an unwinnable situation. You're stuck trying to decipher who's lying, and if there's no independent witness or hard evidence, what do you choose? In some areas, policy and law may mandate a mental health hold even if the evidence is flimsy.

Bringing it all into the same realm as criminal charges is where it gets truly complex - i just had a DA an hour ago basically tell me "I'm glad I don't have your job" in reference to trying to sort out the lines between the medical standards, legal requirements, procedural requirements, and simple demands of morality and ethics..all while dealing with the tactical demands of the situation as well.

All too often the players in the game are too driven by the emotional need to win or come out on top - that investigator angry he didn't get a no-bond arrest, the family member wanting revenge, the defense attorney who doesn't want to agree to stipulations for his client only because it's what the prosecution wants, the judge who thinks the defendant isn't showing enough respect. There's no real answer for that problem, unfortunately, except to call people out on it if that's what's actually going on. Often the real motives can be obscured by the silence required by our respective roles, and the motives hidden behind that silence might not be as obvious as they seem. We had a defense attorney expressing righteous indignation against the agency in emails about filings against his client, and while I fully understood that he legigimately he thought his client was being unfairly and unethically harassed, the actual reason was purely a procedural one stemming from the court process and statutory requirements.

On top all of that, even those who are acting in the best interest of society and in accordance with their own job, often really truly lack the specific knowledge and deep understanding of mental health issues to accurately navigate them. I've found myself having long and deep private conversations with judges, prosecutors, defense attorneys, POs, etc and finding that basically none of them, no matter how skilled or experienced, really have the inherent ability to get outside their silo on their own and go obtain the information they need to make the best possible decisions. The mental health world is basically bound up in a tight ball by laws and codes of ethics, and the insight from inside on "what is the right answer for this person?" is rarely ever in the hands of the courts.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:49:12 PM EST
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From the state that elected Fetterman, it's not really that surprising.

I hope she gets paid and burns down his camper.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:54:53 PM EST
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Protecting and serving.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 12:57:50 PM EST
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I bet she does every thing!
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 1:01:49 PM EST
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IMO PA state police are a criminal organization. They have been abusing everyone for decades.

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Unfortunately the PSP are the only law enforcement in many parts of the Commonwealth. Some small towns and townships may have a small or part time force. Some have disbanded their departments due to budgetary shortfalls.

The ones I have dealt with were ok.

But I know that there are shit bags like this guy out there too.

Link Posted: 9/25/2023 1:16:06 PM EST
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Yep, he'll be loved tenderly in the Pennsylvania state penitentiary.

Good riddance dirt bag cop
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 1:21:54 PM EST
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Yep, I hope he was charged and jailed too
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 1:22:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 1:24:25 PM EST
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Has she gotten back together with him already?
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