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Posted: 6/18/2009 8:52:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2009 8:52:56 AM EST by Cableman]
http://gizmodo.com/5295532/montague-paratrooper-tactical-folding-bike-can-survive-1000+foot-jumps

Nice bike, can be had for $800.

Frame: Double butted 7005 Series Aluminum Front and Rear Triangle
Front Suspension: RST CAPA-T8 Suspension, disc mount, adjustable preload with CLIX™ Ramps
Folded Size: 36" x 28" x 12"
Color: Cammy Green
Gearing: SRAM 24-Speed

Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:55:05 AM EST
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:56:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2009 9:00:16 AM EST by Zedhead]
No rear disc brakes?

*edit for clarification.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:57:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By Zedhead:
No disc brakes?


I see them on the front...
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:58:00 AM EST
Haven't those been around a while? I thought I remember reading about those in the 90's.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:58:41 AM EST
Does it have a shoulder thing that goes up?
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:59:06 AM EST
I predict that many arfcommers will start seeking them out as an essential piece of SHTF gear.

Normal bicycles will now get you eaten by zombies, only mil-spec bikes will be sufficient for SHTF scenarios.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 8:59:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj


No shit. I'm glad I won't have to hump that bitch, because we all know the Sgt Maj won't let anyone ride the damn things...
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:00:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By StandardDeviation:
Haven't those been around a while? I thought I remember reading about those in the 90's.


Perhaps this is the A2
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:01:12 AM EST
it is better than "foot-mobile," you can carry more gear further.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:01:14 AM EST
The Swiss have used mountain bikes for years. Fast than walking, low maintenance, no fuel needs, can carry your gear.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:01:18 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:06:35 AM EST
I've never heard of Montague but for 29 pounds I think I will pass and I don't even want to guess how much it costs.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:10:43 AM EST
Quite of few commercial bikes are in the 27-29 lb. range. I would expect this one is beefed up to handle a trooper carrying a heavy load, and it folds, which would make it even more heavy.

You wouldn't notice the weight too bad unless you were constantly climbing, and with any kind of load, you aren't going to be climbing much anyway.

Pretty limited use I would say.

Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:13:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj

It has the armor package.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:14:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:14:53 AM EST
Originally Posted By DPeacher:
Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj


No shit. I'm glad I won't have to hump that bitch, because we all know the Sgt Maj won't let anyone ride the damn things...


oooooooh! QFT!!!!!
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:15:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj


How frigging light do you want an all terrain bike to be? My all mountain Santa Cruz Heckler is 27lbs with high end components, my friend's XC Blur (old alloy frame, not the new composite one) is down to around 23 but would be questionable on surviving serious drops. Seriously, UCI regs put ROAD RACE bikes not designed for any terrain at all at around 15lbs, and you are complaining that a bike that is made to go offroad, folds up, gets dropped from carriers altitude, and has to survive general squaddie abuse is coming in at 29?

I understand the complaints if you have to hump the thing all over not riding it, and understand that the soldiers will be carrying gear already, but that extra load also adds to extra frame weight or the bike would collapse.

Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:15:53 AM EST
wheres the LaRue mount for weapons transport.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:16:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj

It has the armor package.


The up-armored mountain bike?
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:16:20 AM EST
Bikes have a long proud military history... Put your gear on panniers and ride, ride ride.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:17:58 AM EST
it's worthless shit without racks to hang gear bags off of.

Well marines with a rifle and their 2nd line gear could go farther on them.
But with pannier (saddlebags) marines could cover some distance ricky tick.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:23:18 AM EST
Can your mountain bike survive this 1000-foot jump?
Why yes, yes it can.

Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:30:54 AM EST
Shit like this comes up about once every ten years or so - but we have yet to need any of it.

Sure, it's great that, if we somehow end up in a WWII battle again, somebody thought about having bicycles for the troops - but the truth is that mountain bikes really AREN'T great on mountainous terrain (rolling hills, sure - flat roads, sure, and - for troops who haven't been there before - trails that have already been mapped out... but there aren't that many of those), nor are they good on a large percentage of terrains that need traversed unless that terrain is somewhat dry, does not have a lot of rocks and, well, is pretty much perfect for any of our military's lighter vehicles.

Short of training on them, and perhaps using them within base perimeters, it's just not something I'm gonna say 'Wow' to anymore.

You know what would have been a 'Wow' moment? If, back in the 1980's, our militaries would have seen all the shortcomings of the Hum-Vee's that I saw the first time I played with one of the first models. I didn't see all the things wrong with 'em, but the people designing them should have been able to out-plan a 16 year-old boy.

Likewise, I bet the front shocks on these new bicycles are OEM stock vs. being valved and sprung to accommodate the 75 to 100 pounds of gear a Marine might very well have with them.

It's all utter foolishness, and it just amounts to job justifications instead of actually doing things right the first time.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:32:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By DPeacher:
Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj


No shit. I'm glad I won't have to hump that bitch, because we all know the Sgt Maj won't let anyone ride the damn things...


Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:34:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By ARsonist:

Originally Posted By capnrob97:

Originally Posted By MajorAR:
29 pounds?? Jeeeeezus.....fucking heavy.


Pass


Maj

It has the armor package.


The up-armored mountain bike?


First time someone runs over a mine , they will DEMAND the up armored package.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:39:45 AM EST
Got a place on it to hitch up a tactical wheelbarrow?
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:50:07 AM EST

Dealer south of me.....How many do you want ? Price is right.


Swiss bikes are sturdy.


http://coldwarremarketing.com/

http://coldwarremarketing.com/images/BikesOnRacks.jpg
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:51:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2009 9:51:52 AM EST by Kuraki]
Hell with that, I want one of the diesel dirt bikes Kawasaki made for the Marines.


Link Posted: 6/18/2009 9:53:35 AM EST
Cool but not new by any means. They have been jumping with them for several years. They also make a bright yellow " Hummer" version that is pretty cool. I have a distribution center for them in the same business park that my shop is in.
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 10:03:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/18/2009 10:04:19 AM EST by Half_Rack]
Needs more tactical!
Link Posted: 6/18/2009 10:13:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By Kuraki:
Hell with that, I want one of the diesel dirt bikes Kawasaki made for the Marines.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/M1030m1.jpg

WIN! I have the civy gas version.
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