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Posted: 1/11/2005 7:45:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2005 7:46:13 AM EDT by resistor]
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:46:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:49:05 AM EDT
damn,"suicide by cop" because he didn't want to go back to Iraq.

Says a lot.

I'm saddened for everyone involved.

Chris
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:49:16 AM EDT
"He rejoined his unit at Camp Pendleton on Jan. 2. Sheriff's Lt. Bill Heyne said Raya was last seen at Camp Pendleton Saturday.

He reportedly told fellow soldiers he was going to get a quick bite to eat. Instead, he showed up in Ceres 24 hours later, armed with an SKS assault rifle. The rifle is a Chinese version of the weapon that Raya was trained to use in the Marines, Heyne said."



Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:49:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:50:22 AM EDT
It's all Bush's fault.

HE started the war.

HE sent this poor man to die.

HE didn't ban the gun he used.

HE polluted the atmosphere.




Damned pity about the dead cop, though.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:50:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DoubleFeed:

Instead, he showed up in Ceres 24 hours later, armed with an SKS assault rifle. The rifle is a Chinese version of the weapon that Raya was trained to use in the Marines, Heyne said.



wtf
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:57:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:00:53 AM EDT

"We knew that it was an automatic weapon," said his wife, Karen Travis.


I don't know whats worse, the fact that this happened or the shoddy reporting.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:01:55 AM EDT
It kills me that this guy, who was only 19 by the way, saw and experienced enough to screw up his head enough to influence him to do what he did and die how he did, no matter what the "reason", as if anyone could really reason this on out.

Its sad that the cops died doing their job.

nevermind the Bush comments, nevermind the inaccuracies about what weapon he used.

The whole thing SUCKS ASS.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:09:11 AM EDT
+1, no good in this anywhere.

Its horrible, and the strains of war must be horrific - however, that doesn't account for him deciding to wage war on his town, and innocent people.

While secondarily doing more harm to our cause, and giving ammunition to the anti's.

Terrible.  
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 8:11:21 AM EDT
sks, automatic rifle, trained with it in the Marines, Fellow soldiers, damn what a horrible article did they do any research??
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:10:21 AM EDT
Terrible thing. However, I don't think that simply going to war was all that was wrong with this guy. I went to that war, as did dozens of other members of this board, and thousands of other servicemen. We all saw horrible things, but it takes more than seeing something bad to make this happen.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:36:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mak762:
sks, automatic rifle, trained with it in the Marines, Fellow soldiers, damn what a horrible article did they do any research??



I met a guy that was former USMC RECON and he told me that they trained with Soviet SKS rifles and other foreign weapons.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:37:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:39:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By joker581:
Terrible thing. However, I don't think that simply going to war was all that was wrong with this guy. I went to that war, as did dozens of other members of this board, and thousands of other servicemen. We all saw horrible things, but it takes more than seeing something bad to make this happen.



not if your about half twisted to begin with.

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:40:42 AM EDT
seems like a waste, they could have strapped him with explosives and sent him out on the streets to be kidnapped if he wanted to die so badly
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:42:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mak762:
sks, automatic rifle, trained with it in the Marines, Fellow soldiers, damn what a horrible article did they do any research??



Since when does the media have to make sure they're using accurate, factual data in their reports? Legally, they can MAKE UP anything they please.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:42:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hk940:

Originally Posted By joker581:
Terrible thing. However, I don't think that simply going to war was all that was wrong with this guy. I went to that war, as did dozens of other members of this board, and thousands of other servicemen. We all saw horrible things, but it takes more than seeing something bad to make this happen.



not if your about half twisted to begin with.


Right. Regardless of what he saw or did in Iraq, something was wrong, although maybe not majorly wrong, in this guy's head before he ever went there.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:49:16 AM EDT
remember crack babies from the early 80's

not saying he was one but i wonder what happened to them?
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:58:24 AM EDT
damn... just damn.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:22:56 AM EDT
I live by Ceres. Went to a few schools with some Ceres cops.. Its a horrible shame about the Police SGT. that died because of this coward.

Its disgusting and a disgrace.  He should have manned up and took his own life instead of ruining someone else's.

Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:51:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2005 10:53:55 AM EDT by AR15fan]
Dupe!

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=312648

Punk kid who would have been a gang banger if not for the USMC. He was a murdering coward.
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