how many times have you heard that ? im at about 9.
Whats worse, its all the guys who I've told they should be more prepared.
"Why? If something happens I can just come to your house..."
Sure ya can bud.....Sure ya can.
lol question is i dont know what gun i would give them to use. M4,M5,ak74,ak47,mossy12,Vepr223. prolly a nice drop gun like a high point or any other sub par manufactured weapon lol
There not getting a goddamned thing from me! I honestly dont have neough (yet) for me and mine, let alone you and yours. I'll give you a handshake, directions and a slap on the ass to get you going.
a lot. It irritates me.
The reply to that statement can he found in the Survival Forum.
Not many. I tend to not tell many people what my preparations are. The ones who know what's going on already know they are welcome, as they have made preps as well.
Loose lips sink ships.
I've gotten that over a dozen times, especially near Y2K and post 9-11-01.
My response is alwasy the same, "I don't think so Tim."
I've got a single shot 20 gauge and a 22lr rifle to spare - once those are given away - you've gotta have something VERY useful to get into my compound. The rest of the goods are for family.
Alot. All my wifes liberal friends say it. Unfortunately for them they will be shot along with all the ther zombies or infected peoples.
I've got a hell of a sewing machine. I can keep your clothes mended up!
Do I qualify?
Come on over. Make sure you bring 6 months of food, guns and ammo for 10 years, hookers and blow.
thats awesome lol
You're good, come on over! See? I'm easy to get along with.
I heard that around Y2K.
My response was, "Fuck you. You call me a 'gun nut' and make fun of me then expect me to shelter you. Fuck you. Show up at my house and you end up either a slave, a concubine, or fertilizer."
I dont talk to much , its just from close friends and family members. Most of the stuff is in multiple locations. Never put all the guns and ammo in one place :) muhahahah
Sometimes it's close family... ugg. I've gone through the ugly mental exercise of who I'd support fully and who I'd give a few cans of chili to and send on their way.
BTW Don't share that info with the wife.
The only reason people say this to me is due the amount of guns that I own, and the fact that I own more than one kind of some...a'la ARs, AKs, Fals etc.
Very few people outside my family and close circle of friends are actually aware of my actual state of preparedness, and that is by design.
That comment says, "I haven't prepared for a disaster, and I'm not planning to, so I'll come over to your place and mooch off of you."
I generally don't discuss the number & types of firearms I have, how much ammo I have, and how much food I have.
There are a few that know they are welcome.
Tough shit for anyone else.
Hand them this list of things to bring and tell them they are more than welcome:
200 lbs/person, hard winter wheat
50 lbs/person, beans
10 lbs/person, honey
25 lbs/person, powdered milk(non-instant type)
6-months supply normal canned goods and bottled fruit
1-large bottle 1000mg VITAMIN C
1-large bottle multiple vitamin
2-clove garlic (nature's anti-biotic) (keep refrigerated)
4-#10 can/person dehydrated fruits and vegetables (use for variety-not for bulk)
Salt, pepper, spices Oil (keep refrigerated)
• 1- portable water washer filtering kit (from american water purification co. 1990 @olivera rd. Concord, ca 94520)
• 1/person water straw individual filter straw (from american water@purif.)
• 1-pack scientific filter paper (cone) (12v diameter papers)
• 1/person 10 gallon glass distilled water bottle. (date and seal with stopper and tape. Wrap on bottom and sides with dense foam carpet pad to protect against earthquake or jarring.
• 1-bottle halazone tabs. Or regular chlorine bleach for water purification.
• 1-mobile, self-contained 3kw 120/220v generator (diesel or gasoline/gas) with one month fuel supply in portable tanks
• 1-12 volt auto battery with carry strap trickle charger, and jumper cables and 12v light attachment
• 1-100 ft. 4-plug heavy duty extension cord with built in light bulb (rough duty rated) in a "cage"
• 2-hand-operated flashlights (item #605-771w695 from us general catalog 100 general place, @jerico n.y. 11753)
• 2-nicad flashlights (item # 852-5350w us general catalog)
• 1-long range police-type flashlight with extra bulbs
• Supply of nicad batteries with charger:
• 8-D cell
• 4-D cell
• 16-AA cell
• 2-9v transistor type
• Blood pressure gauge (electronic)
• Bandage scissors
• Long tweezers
• 2-locking forceps (1-curved point)
• Disposable scalpels
• Thermometer (oral and rectal)
• Inflatable splints
• Bandages elastic, self adhesive band-aids large compress type with straps.
• Sutures (dissolvable)
• Cotton backed adhesive tape
• Aloe vera burn ointment
• Anti-biotic ointment
• Rubbing alcohol
• Ipecac syrup (to induce vomiting)
• Container of sterile water (1 qt)
• Clean absorbent cotton rags
• Soap (liquid)
• Long stemmed cotton swabs
• 1/person: 10 speed bicycle with heavy. Duty tires, rack and carriers, lights
• 1 emergency vehicle (recommend vw vanagan with trailer hitch, locking gas cap, and camper options. Install bike racks front and rear, and extra 30 gallon gas tank. Carry oil cans two flashlights emergency tool kit: extra fan belts, metric wrenches and sockets, oil filter, air filter fuel filter, spark plugs, points, condenser, fuses, light bulbs, head light, tire pump, aerosol tire repair sealer, jumper cables, tow cable w/hooks, inflatable raft (4 man) with paddles.
• 1-250cc motorcycle equipped for road and off road use. Add equipment and extra fuel tank carriers.
(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)
• 1-qt water per person
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.
• Multi-band receiver/scanner
• 1-citizens band transceiver
• 2- 3 channel portable transceivers rechargeable batteries,p ortable power pack, antennas
• 1-small portable television (battery operated)
• 1-grind all grinder(for wheat, corn beans, peas, nuts etc.) Ram Products 765 S. University Ave. Provo, UT. 84601 1-grain country bread mixer. Food Science Corp. 95 N. 200 E American Fork, UT 84003
• 1- Victorio strainer (Vitantonio Corp Willoughby, Ohio 44090)
• 1-hand operated can opener
• 1-steam canner with canning bottles w/lids and rings for two seasons cutlery: high quality knives:
• Peeler/filet knife
• Pairing knife (short small)
• Long slicing knife.
• 1-portable electric icebox 12v. Koolatron industries limited, 56 Harvester Ave. Batavia , NY 14020
• Kerosene lamp/heater by aladdin
• Two burner kerosene or propane stove with one month fuel supply
• Hand operated clothes wringer
• Treadle sewing machine or treadle attachment for your electric machine
• Portable electric hot plate
• Fire extinguisher (portable)
• .22 cal.pistol (9-shot revolver or 15 shot auto) w/ 1000 rds. ammo.
• .22 cal. rifle w/1000 rds. ammo.
• .45 or 9mm pistol w/ 200 rds. ammo.
• .223 rifle (AR15) w/ 500 rds. ammo.
• 2- canisters of aerosol mace
• 1-folding knife
• 1- large fixed blade knife
• 1- 250 amp portable arc welder
• Pelletized oxy-acetylene torch
• Propane torch w/spark lighter
• Solder/flux (electrical and non)
• Allen wrench set
• Nut driver set
• Tap & die set (national course,fine)
• Socket set & ratchet handle, @extens.
• Channel lock pliers
• 2-adjustable "crescent" wrenches
• Needle nose pliers with wire cut.
• Vise grip pliers with narrow jaw
• Metal chisel
• Wood chisel set
• Metal punch/drift
• Tin snips
• Claw hammer
• Small, large screwdrivers
• Small, large phillips screwdrivers
• Hand operated twist drill
• Auger expansion bit with brace
• Hack saw
• Bow saw
• Handsaw (10 pt teeth)
• Large pry bar/wrecking bar
• Small block and tackle or 'come-a-long" hand operated winch.
• Glue assorted
• Nails, nuts, bolts, screws
• Electric multi meter,
• 110 circuit test light
These items generally meet all of the following criteria for Barter
High consumer demand
Not easily home manufactured
Durable in storage
Divisible in small quantities
Authenticity easily recognizable
• Liquid detergent,
• Laundry detergent
• Rubbing alcohol
• Razor blades
• Toilet paper
• Aluminum foil
• Writing paper, typing paper,
• Pencils, erasers
• Shoelaces, string, cord, rope
• Fishing line
• Insect repellent
• Water repellent
• Paint, varnish
• Light bulbs
• Needles, thread, zippers, buttons
• Aspirin, vitamins, other drugs
• Seeds, grain, sugar,
• Coffee, liquor, cigarettes
• Anti-biotics, burn ointments
• Safety pins
• Manual can opener
• Canning jars, lids, rings
• Shoes, boots, socks, nylon stockings
• Winter clothes
• Hand guns, rifles,ammunition
• Fuels (all types)
• Quarts of multi-vis motor oil
• Bolts, screws, nails
well, i will actually need some more sentries for the perimeter fence.............
You may know too many people named Tim.
If you've discussed your preparations with sheep, then you've already done something wrong.
Last time someone said that to me, my response was, "You might want to use cover and concealment because I'm setting up a free-fire zone for any 100 meters around my place."
I've heard it too many times
heard it several times, but i laugh it off.
if they aren't prepared, they won't make it to my house
the REAL question is: To whom do you offer a weapon to for self-defense? If I'm able, my parents will be getting an AR with 500 rounds or so along with a revolver (easier to manipulate for my mother), and a shotty.
Which would leave me and my significant other with PLENTY.
after going shooting with 1 of my buddys, i told him.. "Dude.. when the zombies come.. you get the machatte.. u suck!"
One guy I worked with used to argue, "Why do you need all that stuff?" and " You don't need to have that kind of stuff," etc. Then, right after 9-11, he made a comment something like, "Man, if something else happens, I know whose house to go to!"
I said, "What do you mean?"
He said, "Well, all those weapons you've got."
I told him that I didn't have them any more, because I got rid of them all. He asked why, and I told him that he said I didn't need them, so I sold them all.
He gave me a real blank look after that. I never heard any more about it from him.
They can have whatever is left here, if they are quick. I won't be around.
Best list I've seen yet
Good, I'll need more servants if I'm to create an empire.
I get told that, mostly by people I don't like. I tell them to bring their own food.
Target ID when the SHTF will be difficult. Hey, free stuff.
Does the food for 6 months factor the hookers in also, or not?
I hear it almost every day.
Next month I will be giving a 20 minute Lunch and Learn presentation on disaster preparedness to some of my coworkers.
The focus will be earthquake preparedness. I will mention weapons and other self-defense topics.
those are probably the people i'd end up shooting at.
SHTF, i'm worried about keeping me and mine secure and fed. some unprepared folks come by looking for a hand-out, not going to happen. they try to take what they want, well, that's what i have my AR's for...
My friends tell me that all the time, along with the people at the local shop I'm always at. I laugh and just tell them to bring their own ammo
Mind the minefield....
I usually tell them to please don't make me waste the ammunition
I tell them they may get shot cause I'm a nervous ninny, but if they survive they're gonna earn their keep: wash'in dishes, guard duty, cleaning my weapons, cooking, if they brought their daughter/wife she's mine, etc...
That usually discourages further plans on their part.
Depends on the number of hookers... [
I have heard it a bunch and I always tell them not to bother. If they won't listen to me and go buy their own guns, too bad.
More times than I can count...