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Posted: 1/11/2005 6:18:13 AM EDT
www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-brf-war-protest-citation,0,2034481.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

Wisc. Police Cite War Protester for Sign

By Associated Press
January 10, 2005, 11:50 PM EST

WAUSAU, Wis. -- A man protesting the war in Iraq with a sign that blended President Bush's name with a profanity was ticketed for using obscene language in public.

The protester said Monday he would fight the citation, calling it a violation of his constitutional right to free speech.

Police Chief William Brandimore said the city attorney's office was researching whether the ticket violated any constitutional rights, even though the city attorney had advised police to issue the original ticket late last week.

"We will do the right thing," Brandimore said.

Mike Wallschlaeger, 41, of Mosinee, erected the sign near the Marathon County Courthouse last Friday. An officer took it down and issued Wallschlaeger a citation after receiving a complaint from a passer-by, according to police reports.

The ticket carries a $102 fine.

Wallschlaeger said Monday he has used the sign with the message "This war is Bushit" during 18 months of protesting in Wausau.

"I assume they are going to wise up and drop this," he said.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:24:47 AM EDT
That ticket is Bushit!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:32:28 AM EDT
Um, its against the law in many places to post obscene language in public places.

Has been for ages.

And I know what some of you are going to say: "If you don't like it don't look at it blah blah!"

Well, if its on a big sign in a public place, its not like you can "unsee" it once you've seen it.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:34:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:35:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:38:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Um, its against the law in many places to post obscene language in public places.

Has been for ages.

And I know what some of you are going to say: "If you don't like it don't look at it blah blah!"

Well, if its on a big sign in a public place, its not like you can "unsee" it once you've seen it.



The word "Bushit" is NOT obscenity. Had he used the word "Bullshit" then you would be correct.



Oh, Fawk off and eat some Pie!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:41:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Um, its against the law in many places to post obscene language in public places.

Has been for ages.

And I know what some of you are going to say: "If you don't like it don't look at it blah blah!"

Well, if its on a big sign in a public place, its not like you can "unsee" it once you've seen it.



The word "Bushit" is NOT obscenity. Had he used the word "Bullshit" then you would be correct.



Oh, Fawk off and eat some Pie!




You're going to smoke a doodie in heck for that one!  
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:47:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Um, its against the law in many places to post obscene language in public places.

Has been for ages.

And I know what some of you are going to say: "If you don't like it don't look at it blah blah!"

Well, if its on a big sign in a public place, its not like you can "unsee" it once you've seen it.


Uh, no, it has not been against the law for 30 years or more, especially if it is political speech.

Cohen v. California


U.S. Constitution
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




U.S. Constitution
AMENDMENT XIV

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.




Wisconsin Constution
Article I, §3
Free speech; libel. Section 3. Every person may freely speak, write and publish his sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right, and no laws shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press.  In all criminal prosecutions or indictments for libel, the truth may be given in evidence, and if it shall appear to the jury that the matter charged as libelous be true, and was published with good motives and for justifiable ends, the party shall be acquitted; and the jury shall have the right to determine the law and the fact.



I don't agree with that person's opinion, but he has every right to express it in the manner which he did.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 6:53:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:00:09 AM EDT
When i was working as a deputy constable during elections i wasn't allowed to let anyone into the polling places wearing a political message.  I asked several people wearing BUllSHit pins, or pro/anti bush/kerry stickers and buttons to remove them or cover them up.

Whereas i can see a need to prevent political speach inside a polling place, preventing it at a demonstration is BULLSHIT.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:04:47 AM EDT
Speech is the stuff you say.

Speach is a mixture of Sprite and Peaches.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:21:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By mgw1181:

Uh, no, it has not been against the law for 30 years or more, especially if it is political speech.

Cohen v. California

I don't agree with that person's opinion, but he has every right to express it in the manner which he did.



Spot on

The city attorney needs to take a basic Con Law course refresher
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:37:07 AM EDT
I was going to search google to illustrate that "Bushit" is a term/name that applies to other people, items, but I couldn't wade through all the George W. Bushit pages. Looks like that horse is out of the barn already. Must be slow at the City Attorneys office these days.


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Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:43:41 AM EDT
I think he should defend himself and spend 300k of his money and countless .gov money to fight it instead.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:55:30 AM EDT
The second amendment begins where the first amendment ends
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 7:56:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:
That ticket is Bushit!




+1


I don't agree with his view but he sure as shit didn't violate an obscenity law.

Niggardly comes to mind.



Amen, brother!
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:05:07 AM EDT
He has every right to say that.


Some gentleman should've smacked him upside the head for it, though. You can protest and be civil at the same time.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:13:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cleatus:
I think he should defend himself and spend 300k of his money and countless .gov money to fight it instead.



Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:26:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2005 9:29:04 AM EDT by WildBoar]
As much as I hate Democrats and Socialists (same thing) I think the ticket is BS. No actualy bad words were used. If you think he should get fined for it, then you at least be consistent and agree that if a protester had a sign that read FcuKerry should recieve a fine as well.

Another thing. You will NEVER see the Duhers defend a republican or conservatives right to do the same like you see here. We already think the guy is an asshat yet we are defending his rights to be one.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 9:58:34 AM EDT
Hahaha
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:11:48 AM EDT
Shit, shit, I don't see any shit!!   Oh,
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 10:30:47 AM EDT
That ticket is wrong. That guy may be an idiot, so maybe someone should make a sign telling him that.
Link Posted: 1/11/2005 12:03:38 PM EDT
What was the fine for?

If it was for the speech, then it's illegal.

If it was for posting a sign on public property without the proper permits, then it's legal.

It sure sounds like it's the former, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was the latter.
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