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Posted: 8/16/2005 12:28:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 8:58:06 PM EDT by 22bad]
Arrest In Texas Protest Cross-Up
Waco man allegedly drove pickup through "Camp Casey" memorial

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0816051texas1.html
AUGUST 16--Meet Larry Northern. The Texas man, 59, was arrested last night and charged with criminal mischief for allegedly driving his pickup truck over wooden crosses erected near the roadside campsite of Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who has brought her antiwar protest to President George W. Bush's Crawford doorstep. A row of the memorial crosses, which carry the names of U.S. soldiers killed during the Iraq war, were destroyed when Northern, a Waco resident, allegedly drove his truck (which was dragging a pipe and chains) over them. The crosses are part of an encampment Sheehan has dubbed "Camp Casey" in honor of her late son, a 24-year-old Army Specialist killed in action last year. Sheehan has said she will not budge from the road leading to the president's ranch until he meets with her to explain "why our sons are dead." Northern is a Waco realtor and gun enthusiast who has served as president of a local "shooting sports facility" (click here to see Northern and fellow gun club officers posing in front of an American flag).
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:30:18 PM EDT
oh, that's nothin but class right there.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:35:16 PM EDT
Not sure how desecrating memorials to those KIA (no matter how manipulative and tendentious the message of the memorial was) helps. All it does is give the protestors something else to wail self-righteously about.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:39:02 PM EDT
The mother is pathetic. So is the guy who runs over the memorial.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:42:59 PM EDT
Who owns the property this "memorial" is on? Could this be an ILLEGAL construction of STATE/COUNTY property?

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:43:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The mother is pathetic. So is the guy who runs over the memorial.



Maybe, but I can see how they are sick of it. If someone setup 2-3 PortaPoties in front of your home and camped out for weeks, became a media circus on a road that may usually only get 10 cars a day, you would probably snap too.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:43:39 PM EDT
I really enjoy how they had to throw in there gun enthusiast etc.. etc.. I'm sure it was the build up of years of gsr and clp in his grey matter that drove him to do what he did. I mean seriously WTF does being a gun enthusiast have to do with any damn thing they were reporting? I think he run over the wrong thing though, he should have run her over. I honestly wonder if her son would appriciate what she's doing.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:45:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 12:46:35 PM EDT by Johninaustin]

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The mother is pathetic. So is the guy who runs over the memorial.



Maybe, but I can see how they are sick of it. If someone setup 2-3 PortaPoties in front of your home and camped out for weeks, became a media circus on a road that may usually only get 10 cars a day, you would probably snap too.



Bingo. At this point I'd expect the town is just about ready to string up reporters in mass lynchings.

Oh, and from the pics, it's closer to 30 portapotties.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:45:51 PM EDT
Would not be an issue if she did not put markers on the right of way.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:49:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 12:49:15 PM EDT by NewbHunter]
Alright, who are the arfcommers that live in Waco?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:50:32 PM EDT
Let's all chip in to buy the man a tank of gasoline.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:50:44 PM EDT
Fuck you, Arock!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:55:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The mother is pathetic. So is the guy who runs over the memorial.



+1
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 12:57:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The mother is pathetic. So is the guy who runs over the memorial.



Maybe, but I can see how they are sick of it. If someone setup 2-3 PortaPoties in front of your home and camped out for weeks, became a media circus on a road that may usually only get 10 cars a day, you would probably snap too.



I would wait until she had to use the porta potty then bump into it, with a few friends.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:19:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 1:20:35 PM EDT by michaelj1978]
Where is the ACLU when we need them? What the Hell does this lady think she's doing???? Erecting CROSSES on PUBLIC LAND. How dare she!!!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:30:20 PM EDT
It ceased being a memorial when the crazy bitch lost it and whored out her sons death into a cheap political statement.

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:32:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
Not sure how desecrating memorials to those KIA (no matter how manipulative and tendentious the message of the memorial was) helps. All it does is give the protestors something else to wail self-righteously about.



It's no more a memorial than Michael Moore posting pictures of servicemen. Fuck 'em, it's not done out of respect for the dead, that's for damned sure.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:27:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mk1iii:
It ceased being a memorial when the crazy bitch lost it and whored out her sons death into a cheap political statement.





No shit. What a way to honor the dead. IMO the freak is only trying to boost her own notariety (sp?nazis?)

This dude is my hero
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:29:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ElCamino:

Originally Posted By raven:
Not sure how desecrating memorials to those KIA (no matter how manipulative and tendentious the message of the memorial was) helps. All it does is give the protestors something else to wail self-righteously about.



It's no more a memorial than Michael Moore posting pictures of servicemen. Fuck 'em, it's not done out of respect for the dead, that's for damned sure.

Took the words right out of my mouth.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:33:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:39:29 PM EDT
Yeah, I agree, this wasn't a actual memorial. I also hate to be the one to say this, but I believe this to be a dupe. I saw a different thread about this a few minutes ago.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:40:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
those idiots are NOT honoring the dead, they are spitting on thier memories with that "memorial"

other than destruction of property i don't really have a problem with what he did.


If they were simple crooses with the KIA's names on it, I cant say I agree with what he did. It just doesnt sit right no matter how whacky the person was that errected them.

If they said "SGT John Doe killed by Bush's lies " or something to that effect, I dont have a prob with it.

With all those farms down there, there has to be an untracable vehicle where they can cruise by doing 80 and lob some CS cans out the windows.

Where is Eric Cartman when you need him. He understands the hippy problems...
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:41:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
those idiots are NOT honoring the dead, they are spitting on thier memories with that "memorial"

other than destruction of property i don't really have a problem with what he did.



Whose property was this on ?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:42:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bob1984:
Yeah, I agree, this wasn't a actual memorial. I also hate to be the one to say this, but I believe this to be a dupe. I saw a different thread about this a few minutes ago.



First of all this thread was not the dupe. My thread was the dupe. However, I did ask if this was one of our Texas members.

Here's the picture for reference:



SBG

BTW -- 82nd -- My question still stands. Were you serious?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:44:22 PM EDT
mom's a fucking sell-out.

and the dude with the truck, you missed her! swing back around and run her down.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:54:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tweeter:
mom's a fucking sell-out.

and the dude with the truck, you missed her! swing back around and run her down.



Yes I can see how well that would go over on the news.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 4:39:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 4:40:19 PM EDT by Torf]
How can driving through trash on a roadside possibly be construed as "destruction of private property"?

Can I put an offensive, cheap, trashy, protest display up on public right of ways, and file charges at anyone who touches it?

+1 on those who said this wasn't a memorial. A REAL memorial would be tasefully done by people who HONOR the dead.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 4:56:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 5:05:29 PM EDT by FN-TPS]
Can we take up a collection, send this Guy an SEBR and then, send Eric the Hun!

That way We'll have sent ...

-Lawyers

-Guns

-and

-Money


Sorry, I was having a Warren Zevon moment there....

I suggest, we canonize this guy as an official AR15.com Saint.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 5:17:38 PM EDT
'Atta boy.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:57:13 PM EDT
She has a place to camp now, wonder how long till he gets tired of her $hit...........

Bush Neighbor Allows War Protesters to Camp on His Land
By Angela K. Brown
Associated Press Writer
Aug 16, 2005
ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBAP0B1HCE.html
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - One of President Bush's neighbors will allow use of his land by dozens of war protesters who have camped in roadside ditches the past 11 days, giving them more room and halving their distance from Bush's ranch.
Fred Mattlage, an Army veteran, said he sympathizes with the demonstrators whose makeshift camp off the winding, two-lane road leading to Bush's ranch has angered most residents. Mattlage said the group will be safer on his corner 1-acre lot.

"I just think people should have a right to protest without being harassed," Mattlage told The Associated Press on Tuesday night. "And I'm against the war. I don't think it's a war we need to be in."

Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif., started the vigil Aug. 6 to honor her son Casey, who was killed in Iraq last year. Sheehan has vowed to remain through Bush's monthlong ranch visit unless he meets with her and other grieving families.

Mattlage's Monday night offer, accepted by protesters Tuesday, will put them about a mile from Bush's ranch, said Hadi Jawad of the Crawford Peace House, which is helping the group.

Demonstrators said they would start moving their tents, anti-war banners and portable toilets to the new site Wednesday and hope to have the new camp set up in time for a dusk candlelight vigil.

The vigil will be one of about 1,000 to be held across the country, an effort organized by liberal advocacy groups MoveOn.org Political Action, TrueMajority and Democracy for America.

Larry Mattlage, a distant cousin of Mattlage's who owns nearby land, fired a shotgun twice into the air Sunday but no one was injured. But Fred Mattlage does not share his cousin's frustrations with the group.

For more than a week, the rural area has been a traffic nightmare as the camp attracted hundreds more protesters as well as Bush supporters holding counter-rallies.

A resident was arrested Monday night after authorities say he ran over hundreds of small wooden crosses bearing names of fallen U.S. soldiers.

Tuesday morning, several landowners asked county commissioners to extend for at least two miles the public "no parking" zone around Bush's ranch. The ordinance now prohibits cars from stopping on the road within about a quarter of a mile.

Bush, who said he sympathizes with Sheehan, has made no indication that he will meet with her. Sheehan and other families met with Bush two months after her son's death before she became a vocal opponent of the war.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:06:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FN-TPS:
Can we take up a collection, send this Guy an SEBR and then, send Eric the Hun!

That way We'll have sent ...

-Lawyers

-Guns

-and

-Money


Sorry, I was having a Warren Zevon moment there....

I suggest, we canonize this guy as an official AR15.com Saint.


How was I to know, she was with the Russians too.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:10:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 9:19:04 PM EDT by Keith_J]

Originally Posted By 22bad:
She has a place to camp now, wonder how long till he gets tired of her $hit...........

Bush Neighbor Allows War Protesters to Camp on His Land
By Angela K. Brown
Associated Press Writer
Aug 16, 2005
ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBAP0B1HCE.html
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - One of President Bush's neighbors will allow use of his land by dozens of war protesters who have camped in roadside ditches the past 11 days, giving them more room and halving their distance from Bush's ranch.
... said Hadi Jawad of the Crawford Peace House, which is helping the group.
...




Wonder how many watch lists that name is on?

Answer: A BUNCH (following is exerpt from declassified watch list)


Name : HABUBI, Dr. Safa Hadi Jawad
Class : Entity
Record Type : Primary
Exclusion Type : Specially Designated Nationals
DUNS : -- --
Program : IRAQ
Addresses :
1 : Flat 4D Thorney Court, Palace Gate, Kensington, England
2 : Iraq
Description :
CT Actions --
Action Date : -- --
Term Date : Indef.
CT Code : -- --
Agency : TREAS - OFAC
Alternate identity : aka AL-HABOBI, Dr. Safa
aka AL-HABOBI, Dr. Safa Haji J., DOB 01 Jul 46.
aka AL-HABUBI, Dr. Safa Hadi Jawad
aka HABUBI, Dr. Safa Jawad
aka JAWAD, Dr. Safa Hadi



Unless Hadi Jawad is the Arabic equivalent of "John Smith", this doesn't look good.

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:26:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By quijanos:

No shit. What a way to honor the dead. IMO the freak is only trying to boost her own notariety (sp?nazis?)

This dude is my hero



absolutely. god bless him...
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:35:21 PM EDT
You could clear all those people out in about 10 seconds , synthetic skunk urine
55gallon drum of it and perfectly legal to use
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:40:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RenegadeX:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
The mother is pathetic. So is the guy who runs over the memorial.



Maybe, but I can see how they are sick of it. If someone setup 2-3 PortaPoties in front of your home and camped out for weeks, became a media circus on a road that may usually only get 10 cars a day, you would probably snap too.



Nope.


I'd wait for them to use the PortaPotties, then go tip them.

I AM a BOFH after all....

-Storm
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:41:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 9:42:39 PM EDT by FortyFiveAutomatic]

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
You could clear all those people out in about 10 seconds , synthetic skunk urine
55gallon drum of it and perfectly legal to use



See now there's an idea.

Even hippies would clear the fuck out of dodge in the midst of that amount of stink.

ETA: I'm down for a firemission, San Antone's not too far from Crawford.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:44:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
You could clear all those people out in about 10 seconds , synthetic skunk urine
55gallon drum of it and perfectly legal to use



See now there's an idea.

Even hippies would clear the fuck out of dodge in the midst of that amount of stink.

ETA: I'm down for a firemission, San Antone's not too far from Crawford.



GROUP BUY
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:48:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Upstat:
oh, that's nothin but class right there.

Shaddup, newb
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:50:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
You could clear all those people out in about 10 seconds , synthetic skunk urine
55gallon drum of it and perfectly legal to use



See now there's an idea.

Even hippies would clear the fuck out of dodge in the midst of that amount of stink.

ETA: I'm down for a firemission, San Antone's not too far from Crawford.



I got nothin better to do. Crawford is a 3-4 hour drive for me.

Where does one buy this stuff?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:00:13 PM EDT
I don't know about Texas, but in Missouri even if there is an easement on your property that runs along a road, you still own the property, not the county. I own some property in Missouri that has the property line running down the center of a county road, it's my legal property, but I can't do what I want with it.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:01:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:

Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
You could clear all those people out in about 10 seconds , synthetic skunk urine
55gallon drum of it and perfectly legal to use



See now there's an idea.

Even hippies would clear the fuck out of dodge in the midst of that amount of stink.

ETA: I'm down for a firemission, San Antone's not too far from Crawford.



I got nothin better to do. Crawford is a 3-4 hour drive for me.

Where does one buy this stuff?



55 gallons! wow, that's alot stink,

EPOCH
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:01:37 PM EDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199026/posts
not sure how to link it
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 10:04:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheTracker:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199026/posts
not sure how to link it

Learn, kemosabe
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 5:36:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad: AUGUST 16--Meet Larry Northern. The Texas man, 59, was arrested last night and charged with criminal mischief for allegedly driving his pickup truck over wooden crosses erected near the roadside campsite of Cindy Sheehan, the California woman who has brought her antiwar protest to President George W. Bush's Crawford doorstep.
It's about damn time! Those crosses aren't a "memorial" to fallen soldiers! The families weren't even consulted, the presentation and context do not support the troops, the display was against the war effort. I'm glad he mowed 'em down.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 5:44:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By R0ME0:

Originally Posted By quijanos:

No shit. What a way to honor the dead. IMO the freak is only trying to boost her own notariety (sp?nazis?)

This dude is my hero



absolutely. god bless him...



+1


I have to laugh at the people not supporting this guy- a patriot takes action and the armchair flag wavers turn their backs.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:11:08 AM EDT

If burning an American flag is protected free speech, mowing down fake crosses should be the same.

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:35:56 AM EDT
My parents live not too far from there. From what I understand the locals are calling her "The Bitch in a Ditch." As for the asshat local letting them stay on his 1 acre, that's got to be crowded. Porta patties, tents, ganja stash, smelly hippies, and Dr Haji Wad on one acre?
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:46:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
Let's all chip in to buy the man a tank of gasoline.



+1
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 6:50:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/17/2005 6:50:32 AM EDT by KlubMarcus]
Another classic from www.imao.us/ They just keep it coming!

"Horrible news!" Cindy Sheehan cried to her liberal entourage, "Bush has agreed to meet with me again! He wasn’t supposed to do that! What if it diffuses this whole thing! I wanted to keep standing out here and harping on him in front of the press for as long as possible! And it's not like I can refuse to meet him now; this is a disaster!"

Michael Moore turned away from the hotdog stand to face Sheehan. "You can always say you were insulted again by him and demand a third meeting… Oh! And I have an idea! Would it be okay with you if we dug up your son's corpse and waved it around in front of Bush?"

Sheehan thought for a moment. "Do you think it's what Casey would have wanted?"

"WHY WOULD I CARE ABOUT SOME BABY-KILLER'S OPINION!!!"

Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:29:50 AM EDT
That bitch is spitting on her 'beloved son's' grave. It makes me sick.
Link Posted: 8/17/2005 7:38:18 AM EDT

Northern, a Waco resident, allegedly drove his truck (which was dragging a pipe and chains) over them. ........
Northern is a Waco realtor and gun enthusiast who has served as president of a local "shooting sports facility" (click here to see Northern and fellow gun club officers posing in front of an American flag).



OK. All you Texas-lovers. I will concede on this one. Texas Is home to some outstanding Gentlemen.
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