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Posted: 2/22/2016 3:39:21 PM EDT
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Disturbing footage has emerged of two thieves choking a man until he was unconscious so they could steal his Rolex watch.

The video shows the men entering a van hire shop on Court Road in Greenwich and assaulting a 46-year-old man.

They can be seen choking the man to the point where he lost consciousness, then removing a Gold Rolex Yacht Master watch, worth £15,000 from his wrist
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:42:59 PM EDT
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That's it? They just wanted the watch?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:43:22 PM EDT
[#2]
This sort of thing happens when you're defenseless and walking around with almost $30k on your goddamn wrist.

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:43:36 PM EDT
[#3]
that video would be a lot more entertaining with a couple of gunshots in the middle aimed at the perps faces.


I see these videos and I always wonder:


could cops have helped? Nope, not a chance. Never even touched a phone.  


was this guy for gun control? Against?


what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  

I always wonder.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:45:11 PM EDT
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I don't see having a gun as helping that situation. He was still seated when he was attacked.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:45:46 PM EDT
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that video would be a lot more entertaining with a couple of gunshots in the middle aimed at the perps faces.


I see these videos and I always wonder:


could cops have helped? Nope, not a chance. Never even touched a phone.  


was this guy for gun control? Against?


what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  

I always wonder.
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Agreed. As soon as I saw them standing in front of the store I would have been thinking about things......like who to shoot first.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:46:42 PM EDT
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That was a shitty choke.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:48:07 PM EDT
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Why didn't he just shoot them?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:48:18 PM EDT
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Agreed. As soon as I saw them standing in front of the store I would have been thinking about things......like who to shoot first.
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that video would be a lot more entertaining with a couple of gunshots in the middle aimed at the perps faces.


I see these videos and I always wonder:


could cops have helped? Nope, not a chance. Never even touched a phone.  


was this guy for gun control? Against?


what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  

I always wonder.



Agreed. As soon as I saw them standing in front of the store I would have been thinking about things......like who to shoot first.


UK and all that

Why didn't he just shoot them?


Derp
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:48:44 PM EDT
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I'm sure he'll apologize for owning/wearing a watch that caused them to rob him. Poor guys just wanted to have something nice for once in their poor miserable lives.  















What they need to be on the receiving end of

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:49:55 PM EDT
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was this guy for gun control? Against?


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Keep in mind that the criminals in this video didn't have guns either.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:51:36 PM EDT
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Keep in mind that the criminals in this video didn't have guns either.
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was this guy for gun control? Against?


what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  

I always wonder.


Keep in mind that the criminals in this video didn't have guns either.


Guns are an equalizer.

Opponent bigger and stronger than you? Puts you on equal footing
Opponents outnumber you? Puts you on equal footing
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:51:39 PM EDT
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that video would be a lot more entertaining with a couple of gunshots in the middle aimed at the perps faces.


I see these videos and I always wonder:


could cops have helped? Nope, not a chance. Never even touched a phone.  


was this guy for gun control? Against?


what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  

I always wonder.
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Gun control? It's the UK.
A better question would be why do so many people in GD read the news in the UK, then think they need to post local stories here?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:51:47 PM EDT
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In our local IDPA they usually have at least one stage where you shoot from the sitting position.

It's the most legal fun you can have for $25.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:51:54 PM EDT
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Derp
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Why didn't he just shoot them?


Derp


Sarcasm, how does it work?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 3:59:52 PM EDT
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Gun control? It's the UK.
A better question would be why do so many people in GD read the news in the UK, then think they need to post local stories here?
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that video would be a lot more entertaining with a couple of gunshots in the middle aimed at the perps faces.


I see these videos and I always wonder:


could cops have helped? Nope, not a chance. Never even touched a phone.  


was this guy for gun control? Against?


what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  

I always wonder.



Gun control? It's the UK.
A better question would be why do so many people in GD read the news in the UK, then think they need to post local stories here?


There goes 88% of GD

If i see another story about immigrants, Mexico , Syria or anywhere else other than Alabama im gonna get butt hurt
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:00:26 PM EDT
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And this is why I carry a small fixed blade on my centerline.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:02:45 PM EDT
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Sarcasm, how does it work?
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Why didn't he just shoot them?


Derp


Sarcasm, how does it work?

Thanks to the UK anti-self defense laws, two robbers went home safe.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:03:12 PM EDT
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If that flimsy railing had snapped, how far down do you think that stairwell goes?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:04:44 PM EDT
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I had a gold submariner. This is why I sold it.  Way too many people coming up in bars, etc..asking about it. Was a chick magnet though....surprising how some women are attracted to items of value


There was a story years ago in NYC where a guy stuck his hand out to pay a toll on one of the bridges and the car behind him ID'd a rolex. They followed him home and mugged him when he parked.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:05:42 PM EDT
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I believe the guy doing the choking was once a plumber.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:07:32 PM EDT
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That was pretty gentle for a strong arm robbery.

Insurance fraud ?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:08:25 PM EDT
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Knives are illegal in the UK, but wearing a watch like that just screams 'ROB ME', still I feel bad for the guy.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:08:34 PM EDT
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Damn, right at his desk.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:10:30 PM EDT
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To the bottom.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:13:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:15:17 PM EDT
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Anyone getting Rolex adds popping up while watching that ? lol
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:16:28 PM EDT
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Gun control? It's the UK.

A better question would be why do so many people in GD read the news in the UK, then think they need to post local stories here?

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Quoted:

that video would be a lot more entertaining with a couple of gunshots in the middle aimed at the perps faces.





I see these videos and I always wonder:





could cops have helped? Nope, not a chance. Never even touched a phone.  





was this guy for gun control? Against?





what would he say now?  For gun control? against?  



I always wonder.






Gun control? It's the UK.

A better question would be why do so many people in GD read the news in the UK, then think they need to post local stories here?





Perhaps you would be more comfortable in your Hometown Forum.



 
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:20:11 PM EDT
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pocket knife would have been handy.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:20:18 PM EDT
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The guy with the hat is probably already in jail....
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:25:09 PM EDT
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pocket knife would have been handy.
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I don't see having a gun as helping that situation. He was still seated when he was attacked.

pocket knife would have been handy.

That, definitely.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:30:16 PM EDT
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They only wanted the watch? How did they know?

Why does he have a toilet roll on his desk?

I wonder if he has it insured?


£15k watch in that job?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:53:13 PM EDT
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Maybe he placed bets against a losing football team?

Why does any man?
Why does he have a toilet roll on his desk?
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 4:58:54 PM EDT
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That looks staged.  He could have easily reached back and sunk his thumbs into the dude's eye sockets
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:04:17 PM EDT
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That looks staged.  He could have easily reached back and sunk his thumbs into the dude's eye sockets
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Feel that way about every video ive seen

What people WOULD..or Could have done.. If they had a time machine and a crystal ball.. most folks are sheep.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:04:24 PM EDT
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I don't see having a gun as helping that situation. He was still seated when he was attacked.
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This, could have been worse had he tried to reach for a gun with two guys already on him.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:33:32 PM EDT
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Why didn't he just shoot them?
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Is it the stupid questions that have given you such a high post count.
Please do not answer!
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:41:41 PM EDT
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Seems like they should ban choking a guy for his Rolex.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:43:39 PM EDT
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I had a gold submariner. This is why I sold it.  Way too many people coming up in bars, etc..asking about it. Was a chick magnet though....surprising how some women are attracted to items of value


There was a story years ago in NYC where a guy stuck his hand out to pay a toll on one of the bridges and the car behind him ID'd a rolex.
They followed him home and mugged him when he parked.
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I have never had anyone ask about my Gmt Master, only those who know watches ever comment
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:46:29 PM EDT
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I don't do things that draw attention to myself.

No tacticool backpack

No stickers on my vehicles that would imply any valuables being inside

No fancy watch, no 300 dollar shoes, coat, etc.

I don't look like a big pay-day, and that's been working for me so far.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:48:44 PM EDT
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I have never had anyone ask about my Gmt Master, only those who know watches ever comment
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I had a gold submariner. This is why I sold it.  Way too many people coming up in bars, etc..asking about it. Was a chick magnet though....surprising how some women are attracted to items of value


There was a story years ago in NYC where a guy stuck his hand out to pay a toll on one of the bridges and the car behind him ID'd a rolex.
They followed him home and mugged him when he parked.


I have never had anyone ask about my Gmt Master, only those who know watches ever comment


Do you have a gold GMT master? I had a GMT in stainless and never got a comment. It was the gold that lured them in I believe.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:51:46 PM EDT
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Nobody ever notices it.

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:52:43 PM EDT
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They must have been pretty sure he was unarmed prior to the attack...wonder why they would be so sure of that fact?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 5:52:47 PM EDT
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Baltic Sea?
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Leigt LOL
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:23:14 PM EDT
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Go to sleep my pretty.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:14:23 PM EDT
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Feel that way about every video ive seen

What people WOULD..or Could have done.. If they had a time machine and a crystal ball.. most folks are sheep.
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That looks staged.  He could have easily reached back and sunk his thumbs into the dude's eye sockets


Feel that way about every video ive seen

What people WOULD..or Could have done.. If they had a time machine and a crystal ball.. most folks are sheep.


As you know from the military, people default to their training.  If you are poorly or have no training, that's what it looks like.  In
this case, both sides didn't know what they were doing.  The attacker essentially tries to use a bear hug around the
victim's neck.  He barely loses consciousness if at all.

If someone is attempting to choke you using proper techniques, you have to act instantly as you may have as little as 4 or 5
seconds before you pass out.  You must create enough space so the carotid arteries and trachea/larynx have little to no
pressure on them.  This is best done manually without a weapon as there is a counter to every technique.  You simply may
not have enough time to grab a knife, and discharging a gun towards an attacker behind you is obviously extremely dangerous.

This isn't the same type of choke position, but it explains the principle of creating a space to render the choke ineffective.  This is Kevin
Secours whom my sensei has had down as a guest many times.  




Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:16:54 PM EDT
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This, could have been worse had he tried to reach for a gun with two guys already on him.
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I don't see having a gun as helping that situation. He was still seated when he was attacked.


This, could have been worse had he tried to reach for a gun with two guys already on him.


+1

The first priority is to create space for air and blood flow.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:17:46 PM EDT
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Yep
Never even put him out

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:19:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:20:06 PM EDT
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Apparently he spent all his money on the watch. What a run down, shitty office and business
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