Man arrested for watching the police tow his car (videos)

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Man arrested for watching the police tow his car (videos) (Page 1 of 3)

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:14:27 AM EDT

Please no generalized bashing of LEOs - I've been assured that you will be banned for doing so. Also, I don't want to see this one locked as the last one was.

The short version:

youtube.com/watch?v=5D5h62Ek89Q

The 9-minute version:

youtube.com/watch?v=rziO6a_Li6E

The lead-up, which happened sometime prior to the videos above:

youtube.com/watch?v=qSNcVjpX-9Q

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:19:26 AM EDT

[#1]

unbelievable, what state is this ?

i wonder who was video taping this

hit to the back of the head, thats totally uncalled for

lmao his alarm goes off

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:20:37 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
unbelievable, what state is this ?

I understand it's near Detroit, Michigan.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:20:47 AM EDT

[#3]

In Michigan...

who was filming this?

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:22:08 AM EDT

[#4]

what rights did he violate?

what rights of his were violated

why wasn't anyone procecuted?

are there any lawsuits pending?

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:25:36 AM EDT

[#5]

That is disturbing.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:29:49 AM EDT

[#6]

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:39:03 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
what rights did he violate?

Supposedly he wouldn't shut off his car alarm. (I wouldnt shut mine off in detroit)

what rights of his were violated

He was bashed in the skull 3-4 times with the butt of a shotgun and arrested for not going back in his house.

why wasn't anyone procecuted?

are there any lawsuits pending?

unknown

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:44:36 AM EDT

[#8]

Hmm premeditated ass wooping.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:46:20 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Hmm premeditated ass wooping of innocent civilians.

fixed.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:47:34 AM EDT

[#10]

What date did this actually happen?

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:47:37 AM EDT

[#11]

God Bless America, Home of the FREE!

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:49:47 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
What date did this actually happen?

I understand from the other (now locked) thread that it was sometime in 2004.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:49:52 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
What date did this actually happen?

video was dated the 9th. so who knows

im sure this isn't in the michigan newspaper

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:53:28 AM EDT

[#14]

Tagged for home viewing again.

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:57:02 AM EDT

[#15]

They state twice that they want to kill him, that they need to get him out of the house.

I like "did anyone tape this?" YEP!

Posted: 8/13/2007 8:57:37 AM EDT

[#16]

If I were to come up behind a random individual, and strike him in the back of the head several times with a long gun, a few strikes of which were performed when he was on the ground, what would I be charged with, as a non-LEO?

Posted: 8/13/2007 9:03:35 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
What date did this actually happen?

DID this actually happen?

Or is it made up?

Posted: 8/13/2007 9:09:28 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What date did this actually happen?

DID this actually happen?

Or is it made up?

Hu?

Posted: 8/13/2007 9:12:30 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What date did this actually happen?

DID this actually happen?

Or is it made up?

It happened, none of them were charged. Although (referenced the locked thread) the one with the shotgun was fired later for losing tickets if the ladies he pulled over let him screw them.

Posted: 8/13/2007 9:59:37 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What date did this actually happen?

DID this actually happen?

Or is it made up?

It happened, none of them were charged. Although (referenced the locked thread) the one with the shotgun was fired later for losing tickets if the ladies he pulled over let him screw them.

Real stand up guy.

Posted: 8/13/2007 10:02:33 AM EDT

[#21]

After wathcing the vids I can say that those officers deserve to be beat down the same way they beat that man down.

Posted: 8/13/2007 10:02:59 AM EDT

[#22]

WHO IN THE FUCK IS FILMING THIS?

the cops walked right past the camera a couple of times...

did the 'drunk' homeowner have the sense to mount a hidden camera?
something isn't adding up here

Posted: 8/13/2007 10:34:05 AM EDT

[#23]

Just one more step to a marshal law country this stuff is happening way to much. I am sure Hitlary loved watching this video.

Posted: 8/13/2007 10:38:21 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
WHO IN THE FUCK IS FILMING THIS?

the cops walked right past the camera a couple of times...

did the 'drunk' homeowner have the sense to mount a hidden camera?
something isn't adding up here

Well if I had had problems with a neighbor who had some sorta connections to people willing to abuse their power, I'd have a camera or two up.

Posted: 8/13/2007 11:40:34 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
WHO IN THE FUCK IS FILMING THIS?

the cops walked right past the camera a couple of times...

did the 'drunk' homeowner have the sense to mount a hidden camera?
something isn't adding up here

Well if I had had problems with a neighbor who had some sorta connections to people willing to abuse their power, I'd have a camera or two up.

If the guy getting the beat-down is a known 88 [hence the sieg heil comment by the cop] then maybe the popo had prior run-ins with this guy that led up to this further escalating the situation.

If it's only because of a noisy car alarm, then

that's f'd up....

<comment deleted CoC violation>

Posted: 8/13/2007 12:12:46 PM EDT

[#26]

Those have to be the one of the most disgusting abuses I have seen in a long time.

Do any of our resident frequent apoligists have anything to justify that beating? Any legit reason at all?

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:08:11 PM EDT

[#27]

I would rather him be were I could see him.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:18:00 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
I would rather him be were I could see him.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:22:57 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would rather him be were I could see him.

I think he meens in the front yard just like he was. As in not in the house where he can grab a weapon .

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:27:03 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would rather him be were I could see him.

I think he meens in the front yard just like he was. As in not in the house where he can grab a weapon .

That makes sense.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:29:57 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would rather him be were I could see him.

I think he meens in the front yard just like he was. As in not in the house where he can grab a weapon .

Then why would they order him back into the house after harassing him? So he could then go grab a weapon?

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:31:35 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
If I were to come up behind a random individual, and strike him in the back of the head several times with a long gun, a few strikes of which were performed when he was on the ground, what would I be charged with, as a non-LEO?

Aggravated assault, assault with a deadly weapon, or both.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:32:34 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would rather him be were I could see him.

I think he meens in the front yard just like he was. As in not in the house where he can grab a weapon .

Then why would they order him back into the house after harassing him? So he could then go grab a weapon?

Not all LEO think the same do they ?

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:32:39 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
what rights did he violate?

Supposedly he wouldn't shut off his car alarm. (I wouldnt shut mine off in detroit)

Hmmm...

I think car alarms should be banned. The owners never hear them, or care. It's everyone else who has to lie awake for hours listening to the goddamned things.

Quite honestly, I'd like to buttstroke the inconsiderate assholes who leave their car alarms to go off all night long.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:32:54 PM EDT

[#35]

Taggus Maximus

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:35:37 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
WHO IN THE FUCK IS FILMING THIS?

the cops walked right past the camera a couple of times...

did the 'drunk' homeowner have the sense to mount a hidden camera?
something isn't adding up here

You mean the hidden camera that the first officer waved to?

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:36:26 PM EDT

[#37]

He should have gone back in the house, called 911, and reported that his truck was being stolen by armed men.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:36:47 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
I think car alarms should be banned. The owners never hear them, or care. It's everyone else who has to lie awake for hours listening to the goddamned things.

Quite honestly, I'd like to buttstroke the inconsiderate assholes who leave their car alarms to go off all night long.

Interestingly, if you did that, you'd have been arrested, thrown in jail, and taken before a judge.

But I digress. Now, back to reading my copy of Animal Farm..

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:39:38 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I would rather him be were I could see him.

I think he meens in the front yard just like he was. As in not in the house where he can grab a weapon .

Then why would they order him back into the house after harassing him? So he could then go grab a weapon?

Not all LEO think the same do they ?

IMO, the guy was either drunk, high or some type of mental case. If I'm towing his vehicle in a stiuation like that I would rather have eyes on than watching for him over my shoulder.

Firearms owernship might be low in Detroit by it's 50%+ here.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:43:45 PM EDT

[#40]

This is actual footage of two police officers from Melvindale, Michigan (one of whom remains on the force, the other was discharged after fixing tickets in exchange for sexual favors).
They are seen and heard, and the closed captioning illustrates, trying to coax a man from his home so they can beat him.

You can hear the radio softly playing on the video. This preliminary footage demonstrates how they planned to get him out of his home later by illegally towing his truck from his driveway in order to "beat him to death" and "shove this flashlight right up his asshole." The tell him he is "creating a disturbance" although it is not an offense to be "creating a disturbance" in your own home.
Just before they leave, one officer gives the Nazi salute of "Zeig Heil" for the camera, and you can hear them and discuss how they're going to come back later, get him out of his house to justify a charge of "public disturbance" and beat him.

From the video leading up to it. Sounds like the cops did get in trouble - but the reasons for the events are not crystal clear.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:45:42 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If I were to come up behind a random individual, and strike him in the back of the head several times with a long gun, a few strikes of which were performed when he was on the ground, what would I be charged with, as a non-LEO?

Aggravated assault, assault with a deadly weapon, or both.

The way he hit him when he was down, I would have assumed attempted murder. I guess it depends on the context of the situation though.

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:52:28 PM EDT

[#42]

You are gonna love this one....
Gimme my money!!

Posted: 8/13/2007 1:54:55 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
You are gonna love this one....
Gimme my money!!

Let me guess...the clip where the LEO hoses the female fast-food worker for "failing to give him change", which she actually DID give him...?

Posted: 8/13/2007 2:05:02 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
You are gonna love this one....
Gimme my money!!

Officer was cleared of any wrong doing

Posted: 8/13/2007 2:09:16 PM EDT

[#45]

Ahh, the future sure is bright huh?

Posted: 8/13/2007 2:26:44 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You are gonna love this one....
Gimme my money!!

Officer was cleared of any wrong doing[://

The cop & O.J. had the same defense team?

Posted: 8/13/2007 2:31:34 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You are gonna love this one....
Gimme my money!!

Officer was cleared of any wrong doing[://

The cop & O.J. had the same defense team?

no

Posted: 8/13/2007 2:55:36 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You are gonna love this one....
Gimme my money!!

Officer was cleared of any wrong doing[://

The cop & O.J. had the same defense team?

no

It's a cop thing, you wouldn't understand!

Posted: 8/13/2007 3:21:07 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:
Those have to be the one of the most disgusting abuses I have seen in a long time.

Agreed.

Do any of our resident frequent apoligists have anything to justify that beating? Any legit reason at all?

Well, seeing as how this thread is drawing our resident "JBT" callers like moths to a flame and I addressed several issues in the (now locked) original thread, I'll let Bama handle this one.

Quoted:

This is actual footage of two police officers from Melvindale, Michigan (one of whom remains on the force, the other was discharged after fixing tickets in exchange for sexual favors).
They are seen and heard, and the closed captioning illustrates, trying to coax a man from his home so they can beat him.

You can hear the radio softly playing on the video.

I heard "Hey nineteen" by Steely Dan playing at a rather elevated level myself. I also heard the voice of someone towards the end shouting "Nobody's home". IMPO the voice slurring was typical of someone who was at or near the point of intoxication or suffering from a hypoglycemic episode.

This preliminary footage demonstrates how they planned to get him out of his home later by illegally towing his truck from his driveway in order to "beat him to death" and "shove this flashlight right up his asshole."

Actually, I don't remember them stating that ("illegally towing")...

I do remember several comments as described above. I will take a guess that the victim in this case was a "frequent customer" that they'd had to deal with before.

That said, the conduct seen throughout the videso was unwarranted.

"Regulars" are a part of the job.

The tell him he is "creating a disturbance" although it is not an offense to be "creating a disturbance" in your own home.

If he was running around the inside of his house naked, covered in feathers from pillow and maple syrup he'd have been left alone in his furry fantasy.

As it was, the other thread stated the original reason the PD arrived was due to the repeated / continuous sounding of the victim's car alarm.

If the call was for the car alarm repeateadly sounding, and he refused to silence it after determining that there was no attempt at theft, how is that different that NWA at 135 Db on a stereo system blasting through the hood? Both are under control of the owner of the vehicle.

That said, I only heard the alarm sounding briefly during the 1st video. Of course, like many other things (including this "description") it appears to be slightly less than 100% objective. The alarm may have been sounding for quite some time before the footage we see starts.

Just before they leave, one officer gives the Nazi salute of "Zeig Heil" for the camera, and you can hear them and discuss how they're going to come back later, get him out of his house to justify a charge of "public disturbance" and beat him.

If it hadn't been followed by the events as recorded, that would have been distasteful. As it played out, it's wrong.

From the video leading up to it. Sounds like the cops did get in trouble - but the reasons for the events are not crystal clear.

As I mentioned above, the "description" is slightly editorial in quality, and I'd love to see the entire video from 10 minutes before the knock on the door all the way through the end.

I still agree that the hits with the shotty were grossly unwarranted.

Oops. I suppose, as an "apoligist" (sic) I should hide behind the ________ and say that he deserved it, if only to fulfill the tinfoil fantasies of the badge beaters here.

Posted: 8/13/2007 4:12:15 PM EDT

[#50]

The lead in video is heavily edited. Numerous comments by the LEO's are in obvious response to something the person inside the house has said but his comments were edited out. While many of the comments are not professional they are far from criminal. Later when they come back for the truck it's obvious the previous statements were nothing more than banter. He was not immediately beat down. The man was told why the truck was being towed. I lost track of the number of times the officer asked often saying please for the man to go back inside the house.

At the point he was told he was under arrest based on whatever their state laws that apply. The hit to the head/spine area is violation of most UoF rules that I know of that do not involve deadly force.

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