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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:06:47 PM EDT
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disrespect of their O-thar-O-tay
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:08:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Municipal Code 87.10-22.38 "Failure to Respect Mah Authoritah!"
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:09:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:10:03 PM EDT
[#4]
In before the JBT's
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:11:09 PM EDT
[#5]
Dang I hate JBTs. Not much gets me mad in life besides them. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:11:57 PM EDT
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I would be trying to be police chief after that.
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:13:49 PM EDT
[#7]
In the longer version, the officer tells the man that he's going to be arrested for "not following a direct police order".
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:15:02 PM EDT
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I had one tell me I couldn't walk down a certain street he was patrolling. He didn't like that I had a gun and was pissed that there was nothing he could do about it. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:16:25 PM EDT
[#9]
thats what they call POP around here.
pissing off the police. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:18:35 PM EDT
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"I didn't know how many of 'em it would take to kick my ass, but I knew how many they were gonna use!"
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:19:06 PM EDT
[#11]
disgusting.
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:19:31 PM EDT
[#12]
FUNNY AS IT SOUNDS.
Officer Aldrich (the guy that hit the drunk guy with a shotgun and punched him) apparently exchanged sex for a free get out of a ticket pass. lol... some of you cops.... from the PDF Police Officer Aldrich - CSC Third Degree and Misconduct in Office Warrant Charged Police Officer John Aldrich, 40 of Melvindale has been charged with one count of Criminal Sexual Conduct Third Degree and two counts of Misconduct In Office in connection with a April 11, 2005 sexual assault of a Melvindale woman. It is alleged that while on duty Officer Aldrich had non-consensual sex with the female and in return fixed a ticket for her. Criminal Sexual Conduct Third Degree carries a maximum of fifteen years in prison and Misconduct In Office is a common law offense that carries a maximum of five years in prison. “We expect our police officers to uphold the law. The type of misconduct alleged in this case is always troubling. Officer Aldrich has used his authority to prey upon the people he vowed to protect. lol this video annoys the fuck outta me, i feel like getting drunk now. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:20:07 PM EDT
[#13]
and that is one handy piece of information |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:20:18 PM EDT
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"Just by disobeying his orders you're interfereing."  ETA - They towed his fucking truck for failure to turn off the alarm?  ETA II -  |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:23:57 PM EDT
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Wow. Old story is oooooold. This incident took place on 08 September 2004. The arresting officer, one John Aldrich, was not charged with assault in this matter. He was, however, charged with one count of Criminal Sexual Conduct Third Degree and two counts Misconduct in Office in connection with an incident the following April. In that case, he allegedly traded non-consensual sex with a woman (when "civilians" do this, it's called rape) in exchange for fixing a ticket.
Detroit = toilet. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:24:01 PM EDT
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apparently the neighbor was a police dispatcher. hence the police were all over him like flies to shit. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:26:30 PM EDT
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Ugh. This is pretty bad as far as police abusing their "authority" goes. I wouldn't put it past a lot of police to act that way. In my experience, police fancy themselves superhumans who can boss anyone around. I've had my car illegally searched while telling the officer, "you can't do that, I hope this is on camera".
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:27:02 PM EDT
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Has this video been posted here before? This is the first I've seen it. The longer version just confirms that the cops were acting as thugs. Disgusting. 
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:31:06 PM EDT
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OK, these were Melvindale police. Suburb of Detroit. That explains alot.
Cops take note, these are the kinds of police I grew up with: "We're towing your truck because you wouldn't turn off the alarm (although I heard no alarm). Now by disobeying my orders you're interfering with us doing our job. If you don't like what we're doing then go hire a lawyer, no go back into the house before you get the butt of my shotgun to the back of your head...too late" |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:34:34 PM EDT
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"GO IN THE HOUSE" (SO YOU CAN'T SEE US DAMAGE YOUR CAR)
OK, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE LEO'S, BUT AFTER WATCHING THAT VIDEO I DEFY ANYONE TO COME UP WITH A GOOD REASON THIS MAN WAS TREATED THIS WAY BY THOSE WHO HAVE SWORN AN OATH TO PROTECT HIS CIVIL RIGHTS! HIS TRUCK WAS BEING TOWED BECAUSE THE ALARM WAS INTENTIONALY SET OF BY THE OWNER? OK, SO GIVE HIM A TICKET IF THIS IS TRUE. MAYBE AFTER HE WAS ARRESTED THEY SHOULD HAVE BURNT DOWN HIS HOUSE TOO. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE LOE'S HERE SHOULD HAVE JUST IGNORED HIM AS THEY WERE ONLY THERE TO WATCH THE TOW TRUCK DRIVER TOW THE VEHICLE, NOT TO PROVOKE THIS GUY. THIS MAKES ME SICK. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:35:09 PM EDT
[#21]
police = borg = resistance is futile = police state = not America!
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:37:16 PM EDT
[#22]
It angers me too, but there's no need to yell. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:38:53 PM EDT
[#23]
sorry, not yelling, just didn't realize cap locks were on. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:47:33 PM EDT
[#24]
If that was legal, we need to change the laws.
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:56:19 PM EDT
[#25]
If it was truly "non-consensual" then there wouldn;t have been any conditions upon the act. He would have raped her and that would have been it. He was using sex to broker his authority. Having never been raped, I can't honestly say which is worse. Although rape affects one woman horribly, such an act by an official rapes society in terms of destroying the credibility of the office and the society he as an officer is supposed to represent. As far as you wet dream "JBT" callers out there, I doubt you'll find a single one to back up that schmuck. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 9:57:06 PM EDT
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So do our resident JBTs get something like the "bat signal" when one of these threads pop up?
Or is monitoring gun boards their full time job? |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:04:25 PM EDT
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The only thing I could find in 45 seconds of searching: www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(zx05ls3ptfnfzxmq0pr1xp45))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-750-479
It's kind of a stretch; of course, my workplace doesn't have a new enough flash player to let me see the video, but, if he wasn't physically blocking the removal of the vehicle, what authority did the cop have to order him to return inside his own house, save a condition of a riot or civil disturbance? |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:05:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:05:46 PM EDT
[#29]
This is why I have more and more contempt for what we call a justice system. The men and women who are sworn to enforce the law, are not held accountable to it. They make the law up as they go, and if you do go to court, the judge is going to side with them, and the jury probably will as well.
It doesn't matter how rank a cop is, when they are on the witness stand in thier pressed uniform and crew cut, thier word is gold, and anybody who disagrees with them is about to get screwed in a very uncomfortable place (and I don't mean the back seat of A Volkswagen). |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:06:02 PM EDT
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If you're referring to moi, I'm simply killing time until shift change @ 0700, and hoping nobody dies or burns to death in the meantime. And it's hard to miss these, since they seem to be a favorite 
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:10:37 PM EDT
[#31]
Where I am from they call it the gun and badge act, if you have a gun and badge you can pretty much do anything you want. plus, if the person your doing it to can't afford a lawyer it is perfectly legal, if they can afford a lawyer they wouldn't likely live in this community and would sure as hell be gone before dark, so it wouldn't be an issue. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:11:49 PM EDT
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And the same system instructs jurors to ignore a seven year history of violent felonies, disregard for civil structure (school and other authority) and repeated failures at well-intentioned court imposed "self help" setups and sees a well dressed, crying on command victim sitting at the defendant's table rather than a calculating murderer. (I'm thinking of the 22 y.o, girl - possibly another Detroit case - who shot and killed a mother during a robbery for drug money. It was discussed here) The system is fucked, but it's not all in favor of the cops. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:13:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Actually, you posted when I was typing. FedDC is my favorite JBT. I want his action figure, provided it comes with the SWAT and riot gear. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:13:06 PM EDT
[#34]
What do you suggest? That we ignore stories of abuse? Hmmm. Maybe we could consolidate - have the mods create a tacked "police abuse story" thread. Each time the 100-page limit is hit we could ask for another. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:14:50 PM EDT
[#35]
or... we can just make Arfcom a mini fascist police state, where no news but good news occurs. Im up for it comrade, are you? |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:22:14 PM EDT
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I just find it an interesting take on our subculture here that so much focus, effort, and attention is dedicated to [rant] about "Teh JBT's, man!" when none of the  ers could tell me who this guy is without right clicking and looking at "properties": And how many of the 60 NYPD/PAPD LEO's killed on 9-11 were really just JBT's who hadn't been "outed" yet? There are literally hundreds of thousands of interactions between LE and citizens that occur daily. While nobody really expects to enjoy such interactions, 99.999% occur without a demand for a bribe, a dog getting shot, civil rights being violated, or anything untoward occurring. And as much as the "rational anarchist" of my college years would love to espouse the uber-libertarian mantra, I've worked on the "dirty side" of life too long to think that having absolutley no checks on a population as large as ours is would be anything short of a feeding frenzy for the wolves... including some that formerly wore uniforms. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:25:22 PM EDT
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Odd you should phrase it that way, seeing as how the "anarchists" at the WTO protests seem to favor "Che" attire (along with the "don't take my picture and have me lose my trust fund" identity obscuring bandanna / hoodie combo) while they're expressing their "frustration" at the injustice of the military industrial complex by breaking into Footlocker and trashing a Starbucks before riding their |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:26:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Oooh... get the one with the kung-fu grip. It's AWESOME! |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:26:51 PM EDT
[#39]
I agree that police are necessary to maintain law and order; the aftermath of Katrina being the prime example in recent history. But I also think it's important for bad cops to be exposed and prosecuted. If nobody was disciplined for what appears in this video then that is a miscarriage of justice and worthy of outrage. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:26:57 PM EDT
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"a knowing failure to comply with a lawful command"
But he was not interfering. He did not strike them. He did not try to prevent them from moving his car. He did question it. Is ordering someone not to stand anywhere on his own property lawful? It was his yard. What are the limits to police orders? Sure, the guy was drunk. And he was questioning what they were doing. But he was not actively interfering with them. He was just questioning and pissing them off. That did not really deserve, in my opinion, a buttstroke to the head. I would think, from an officer safety standpoint, were I the officer, I'd rather the guy be right there were I could see him. There were other officers there, it is not like they didn't have enough help towing the guy's car. It would be better for him to be visible, than perhaps go back into his house, retrieve a gun, and come out firing... which he very well could have done if drunk and angry. I don't think they serously thought he was going to go back inside and watch WWF Wrestling on TV, did they? That could have been handled better by all concerned. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:32:52 PM EDT
[#41]
Thats what I want to know also. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:33:40 PM EDT
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Unfortunatly even bad guys have rights that should be enforced. Even bad guys have the right to have information that doesn't have any bearing on a case to be excluded. The reason for this is supposed to be to ensure that innocent people aren't punished for acts they didn't do. The system was designed in such a way that those who designed it knew that sometimes the guilty would get away, they saw this as preferable to a system that punishes the innocent as well as the guilty. This may seem like a foreign concept to some, but it is the way it is supposed to be. Of course I don't expect a person who wears a badge to understand this. Those who wear badges don't have to live under the same laws as the rest of us, if they are accused of wrongdoing, they are supposed to be treated like they are innocent until they are proven to be guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt. OF course it is a rare day that a person who wears a badge is accused of anything, they pretty much have to rape or kill to get to that point, anything short of that is taken care of through the policy of "professional courtesy". |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:38:44 PM EDT
[#43]
no doubt. in a response to a post/question to him/her, we have little-to-no power excercising our rights. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:41:39 PM EDT
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Agreed in principle, as I lack the means to view the video in question. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:45:15 PM EDT
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No authority, they are NAZIS. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:50:20 PM EDT
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So, it's ok to disregard one's civil rights as this is a check on keeping society civil? Give me a break. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:51:59 PM EDT
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My first round pick is "sumrifle" but "FedDC" is a good one I'll give you that. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 10:53:05 PM EDT
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Implying that Tango7 said that is a stretch even by GD standards. |
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Posted: 8/12/2007 11:03:35 PM EDT
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He should have demanded that they get the FUCK off his property... not that it would have made any difference
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Posted: 8/12/2007 11:08:02 PM EDT
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That would have resulted in a mandatory shooting of at least one dog, and he better hope he has a dog, if he doesn't they shoot the police dog, then he goes to jail for murder 1. |
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