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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:47:31 PM EST
Guilty…




Guilty
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 12:48:38 PM EST
Ah, WTF mate?
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What. 'Tha. Fuck!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 12:54:36 PM EST
Two "defaced rifles"?

Okay I see a big ugly purple thing that I don't know WTF it is..........But I think the other thing is supposed to look like that, it's just a Hi-Point...
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Keenan Draughon = Total Dumbass


Link Posted: 10/26/2013 12:57:59 PM EST
Automatic not guilty, because fuck NY.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 12:58:41 PM EST
Not guilty, Even if was a full auto AK-57 uzzie radar lasar triple barrel double scoped heat-seakin short barreled shotgun.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 12:59:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 12:59:46 PM EST
Looks like a grape Now N Later. Remember those?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:02:02 PM EST
the purple one looks like one of those fake 22 cal AK 47's
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:02:21 PM EST
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...
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:02:46 PM EST
AK-22?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:02:51 PM EST
I understand that NY presently practices nullification, but he may have been FOPA-legal.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:09:40 PM EST
So the guy was just making a connecting flight at JFK....and they pulled him out and busted him?

Is there no 'peaceable journey' laws that protect one traveling by air?

This is fucked up.....way fucked up.
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Originally Posted By pcsutton:
So the guy was just making a connecting flight at JFK....and they pulled him out and busted him?

Is there no 'peaceable journey' laws that protect one traveling by air?

This is fucked up.....way fucked up.
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He is not the first one they have done that to…There are a couple of other stories…

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:20:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Someone go post "check out my shtf collection" on m4carbine and post that picture heh heh
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Just registered an account there, went to post, changed my mind. I just don't have it in me to troll.

Link Posted: 10/26/2013 1:26:39 PM EST
Guilty for being an idiot.

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Maybe we need another FOPA for air travel. It will be good for all of us.

Then they can add an amendment banning guns guns that fire bullets.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:14:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
FOPA doesn't cover airline travel, once you leave your car and walk into the airport you are screwed. We have argued about this in the NY hometown forum for years. I think maybe someone in the Bush administration DOJ said it was covered, federal court said no, maybe in September?
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
I understand that NY presently practices nullification, but he may have been FOPA-legal.
FOPA doesn't cover airline travel, once you leave your car and walk into the airport you are screwed. We have argued about this in the NY hometown forum for years. I think maybe someone in the Bush administration DOJ said it was covered, federal court said no, maybe in September?


Do you have a link for FOPA?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:18:06 PM EST
Arfcom bronie missing?
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Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
I understand that NY presently practices nullification, but he may have been FOPA-legal.
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With defaced firearms?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:35:02 PM EST
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Originally I was going to say guilty but not if he was only connecting through NY. Thats some bullshit. Welcome to the new standard of railroading the fuck out of any firearms owner in anyway possible.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:37:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

With defaced firearms?
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
I understand that NY presently practices nullification, but he may have been FOPA-legal.

With defaced firearms?


I didn't catch that the defacement was specifically SNs. I assumed they referred to the weapons' appearance.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:38:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 2apatriot:
Welcome to the new standard of railroading the fuck out of any firearms owner in anyway possible.
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Your local cops would let him slide on two defaced rifles?
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Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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By its terms, FOPA covers transport by any vehicle. IIRC, the anti-FOPA federal decision was a trial court order on a case that raised collateral issues; I don't think it addressed the supremacy of FOPA or its applicability to air travel per se. I seem to recall that it was a suit seeking return of arms seized in violation of FOPA. I may be wrong.
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Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:52:37 PM EST
a flight from tennessee to NC via NY?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 2:53:43 PM EST
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Someone go post "check out my shtf collection" on m4carbine and post that picture heh heh
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

Your local cops would let him slide on two defaced rifles?
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By 2apatriot:
Welcome to the new standard of railroading the fuck out of any firearms owner in anyway possible.

Your local cops would let him slide on two defaced rifles?


Does them being defaced matter? Legally they may have been in the right but it is a shitty law (him not being legally allowed to pass through JFK airport when they routed his flight that way) and a shitty thing to do. Which makes my use of the term railroading inaccurate I guess.

And I suppose technically if he properly declared them at the airport he wouldn't have been in any trouble since the fire arms are legal here.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:09:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tigermilk:
a flight from tennessee to NC via NY?
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Thats an odd flight anyways to me.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:26:18 PM EST
How the hell can I tell if he's guilty without a pic of him?

I can't fap to this shit!
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:32:12 PM EST
Not guilty

I dont care how rediculous his wepons were, fuck NY
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:32:44 PM EST
Not guilty. Gay
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 3:33:25 PM EST
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Thats an odd flight anyways to me.
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Originally Posted By tigermilk:
a flight from tennessee to NC via NY?


Thats an odd flight anyways to me.



He is a cheap mofo. Probably booked on kayak
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 4:19:03 PM EST
here is another pic of the rest of the guns…i still say guilty.



also sounds like the serial numbers were defaced or altered
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Originally Posted By Extorris:

Your local cops would let him slide on two defaced rifles?
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Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By 2apatriot:
Welcome to the new standard of railroading the fuck out of any firearms owner in anyway possible.

Your local cops would let him slide on two defaced rifles?


No such thing as a "defaced" firearm in my state. Is painting purple defacing?
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 4:32:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
FOPA doesn't cover airline travel, once you leave your car and walk into the airport you are screwed. We have argued about this in the NY hometown forum for years. I think maybe someone in the Bush administration DOJ said it was covered, federal court said no, maybe in September?
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3d Cir in Sept.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 4:37:34 PM EST
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Damn! I have to agree with Aimless!

The law is the law.

Originally Posted By racer934:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
FOPA doesn't cover airline travel, once you leave your car and walk into the airport you are screwed. We have argued about this in the NY hometown forum for years. I think maybe someone in the Bush administration DOJ said it was covered, federal court said no, maybe in September?


3d Cir in Sept.

That sux!
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3d Cir in Sept.
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Originally Posted By racer934:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
FOPA doesn't cover airline travel, once you leave your car and walk into the airport you are screwed. We have argued about this in the NY hometown forum for years. I think maybe someone in the Bush administration DOJ said it was covered, federal court said no, maybe in September?


3d Cir in Sept.


The opinion doesn't say that FOPA excludes air travel. It says that FOPA does not apply when walking through an air terminal. IIRC, the guy took possession of his guns inside the terminal and walked with them to a connecting flight. Presumably, he would have been fine if his bags had been successfully checked through or if he had avoided handling them.
Link Posted: 10/26/2013 4:45:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tigermilk:
a flight from tennessee to NC via NY?
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Airlines are weird. I once had a flight from Norfolk, VA to Raleigh, NC via Atlanta.
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