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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:17:58 PM EDT
concealcarry.org/2005/10/founder-of-icarry.html
By John Birch, President, Concealed Carry, Inc. A few weeks ago we wrote to you about Shaun Kranish and his efforts to start another gun rights organization in Illinois, ICARRY.ORG. We welcome youth and vigor to the movement. Well now Shaun has his first taste of the war as he has been arrested at Rock Valley College in Rockford, Illinois for carrying an empty fanny pack. Shaun tells his story below, but essentially Shaun disagrees with the College's policy on self-defense. Therefore, Shaun wanted to speak to the President of the school, but was referred to the campus public safety office (aka d'uh cops.) What happened next is best said in Shaun's own words which are below. But the result of his two hour meeting with them was to be arrested for disorderly conduct by officer Edward Crumb (what a perfect name for a small-time "want to be a real cop.") It should be noted that Officer Crumb was allegedly acting under the direction of Chief Joe Drought. Now Shaun can't even return to campus without being arrested for trespass and taken to county jail. I think you will be at first amused, and then appalled, by the charges which I now give you verbatim from the Criminal Complaint filed in the Circuit Court of the 17th Judicial Circuit, County of Winnebago, Case Number 05-315. DISORDERLY CONDUCT: in that Shawn (SIC) Kranish knowingly did an act in such an unreasonable manner as to alarm or disturb Janna L. Shwaiko and provoke a breach of peace to wit Shawn (SIC) Kranish walked into the Presidents (SIC) office and requested from Shwaiko a meeting with the President. Kranish was wearing a blue jacket with the words "I Carry" on the front of the jacket and he was also wearing a black nylon pouch or handgun holster (Note: Can't officer Crumb tell the difference?). Shwaiko believed Kranish to be carrying a gun and it alarmed her in violation of 720 ILCS 5/26-1(a) of the Illinois Compiled Statutes. Officer Edward Crumb, #167 Complainant (NOTE: Shaun's I CARRY windbreaker and holster were seized as evidence.) This is absurd on its face. If one is walking down the street and sees someone who looks like they might be a gang banger and have a gun, may one then call the police, have them searched, and when it is discovered they do NOT have a gun the "gang banger" is then arrested for disorderly conduct? All because one was alarmed? At Concealed Carry, Inc. we say "give us break!" and dare we even say "get real." It is clear to us at Concealed Carry, Inc. that Mr. Kranish is not being prosecuted not for disorderly conduct, but for the crime of not having a liberal anti-gun mindset that believes only "highly trained professionals" should have access to weapons designed for self-defense. The actions of Chief Joe Drought, who allegedly directed Officer Crumb to arrest Mr. Kranish, have a chilling effect on free speech on campus and are intolerable in this day of tolerance and diversity. Therefore Concealed Carry, Inc. is pledging to support Mr. Kranish in refuting these ridiculous charges and further investigating if a false arrest has occurred. Our policy at Concealed Carry, Inc. is to recommend that the arresting officer not be able assert he was acting "under of color of law" and we will recommend the officer be held personally liable as the taxpayers should not have to pay for this tom foolery. We believe the email for Chief Joe Drought to be [email protected] but this is not confirmed. You might want to try dropping him a line anyway. We are. Please pass this around to others if you would be so kind. We have contacted the ISRA about this and hope they will take an interest in this "North of I-80" anti-gun action by Rock Valley College. CONTACT: John Birch, President, Concealed Carry, Inc., 3412 Adams Road, Oak Brook, IL 13, 2005 8:28:22 PM man arrested for wearing a jacket that says : " I carry"--but not carrying anything WTF??  how does that happen? |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:20:21 PM EDT
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He has the makings of a perfect lawsuit, and could own that cops ass with little effort
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:22:18 PM EDT
[#2]
That right there is some Commie bullshit.
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:22:53 PM EDT
[#3]
hopefully he can sue that lady too....
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:30:11 PM EDT
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Tag for outcome. Anyone know if he needs additional support?
So when females walk around with "I'm a baby killer" can we arrest them on the spot for murder? |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:50:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Tag for outcome. Anyone know if he needs additional support? So when females walk around with "I'm a baby killer" can we arrest them on the spot for murder? [/quotei] i wish they might be able to......if she used a gun |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:55:51 PM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:58:49 PM EDT
[#7]
tag
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:06:07 PM EDT
[#8]
tag
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:15:29 PM EDT
[#9]
 Oh wait, Illinois, never mind not that shocking!
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:22:06 PM EDT
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The guy posts here. His board name is SAK, here's a link to the HTF thread, which has a link to the Icarry.org thread.
HTF thread |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:23:00 PM EDT
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Whenever I read about shit like this I always wish it happened to me.
 I would have had some fun with that cop.
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:24:26 PM EDT
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tag
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:29:58 PM EDT
[#13]
send lawyers, guns and money..
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:34:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Taggity doo daa
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:39:18 PM EDT
[#15]
McCarthyite!!!! Burn the McCarthyite!!! |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:39:57 PM EDT
[#16]
Fixed it for ya! |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:45:37 PM EDT
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Dude whats up with that fucked up avatar? |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:55:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Hmmmmm, this sounds pretty stupid. But what would you all think if there was some Middle Eastern looking guy with a jacket that said "Suicide Bomber"?
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:56:27 PM EDT
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Unfortunately, the victim would have to be alarmed at something that he actually DID, not something that the victim "thought" he did.
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:59:37 PM EDT
[#20]
His jacket didn't say WHAT he carried.........
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:03:09 PM EDT
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This just shows how far some people are willing to go to forward their anti-gun agenda.He was arrested for nothing,basically.What if someone was wearing a hippy shirt with a pot-leaf on it?Should he be arrested for possession of marijuana?
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:15:15 PM EDT
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Ms. Shwaiko needs to put the nipple and blankie down and grow up.
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:15:41 PM EDT
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WTF thats like compairing Angelina Jolie  to janet reno  Being a law abiding citizen with a CCW permit and wairing a pro carry logo clothing item is legal Being a fanatical religious nutcase who kills innocent people and wairing a pro terroism clothing item is not legal atleast last I heard anyway.... |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:24:57 PM EDT
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Uh, last time I heard a "pro 'terroism'" shirt might get you an ass kicking but IS NOT illegal. Nor did wolfman97 say ANYTHING about "a fanatical 'religious' nutcase" he only said "Middle Eastern looking guy".
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:26:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Yes, it's mighty unpleasant. |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:28:40 PM EDT
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Same difference 
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:30:40 PM EDT
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Up here one did, airgun leastways, to shoot herself in the belly to kill her baby, baby survived and then she won the court case to keep it, when they tried ot seize it from her.... |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:36:09 PM EDT
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I smell bullshit. No, wait- it's just anti-gun hippies.
Sue the fuckers.
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:52:49 PM EDT
[#29]
McUzis new account. |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 9:00:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Good grief
 A college in Illinois, there's a bastion of higher ed and champion of free speech 
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Posted: 10/13/2005 9:05:11 PM EDT
[#31]
I hate this crap. Same deal at my school.
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Posted: 10/13/2005 9:23:34 PM EDT
[#32]
Tag
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Posted: 10/13/2005 11:56:31 PM EDT
[#33]
 yea, i wonder how a liberal commie lady like that figured that he MIGHT have ment a gun..... |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 3:35:03 AM EDT
[#34]
HUGE +1 in my book. That is knowingly showing support of breaking the law. |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 3:48:28 AM EDT
[#35]
After the lawsuit I believe the school's new name will be Shawn Kranish College.
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Posted: 10/14/2005 3:51:38 AM EDT
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She's a hottie. Whatever you do, don't make her give you the evil eye. 
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Posted: 10/14/2005 4:10:00 AM EDT
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He wasn't arrested for carrying, he was arrested for disorderly conduct.
A guy walks into the presidents office with an "I Carry" jacket and a fanny pack holster and is a gun activist, one could assume a couple things. 1. That he is indeed carrying, contrary to the colleges rules, and 2. If he is not carrying he is trying to insight some type of reaction. He certainly he got a reaction. The arrest may have been because he refused to leave, it may have been because he failed to cooperate with the campus police who had probable cause to believe that he was carrying. He may have been a smart ass and became disruptive. Hopefully the charges will be dropped but it the police reaction doesn't surprize me. It may have been exactly what he was looking for. Look at the attention he is getting . |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 4:22:26 AM EDT
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this is EXACTLY why we have it so tough. people, even a lot of gun owners, find it reasonable to immediately assume you are breaking the law just because you have a gun / are a gun person. i don't think it's reasonable to assume anything. |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 4:23:01 AM EDT
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Wearing a T-shirt that says "I Carry" is not probable cause for anything. I'm sure if had had on a shirt that said "I blow up Conservatives" there wouldnt have been a problem |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 5:13:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Not only isn't it reasonable... It's flat out stupid. "Shwaiko believed Kranish to be carrying a gun and it alarmed her in violation of 720 ILCS 5/26-1(a) of the Illinois Compiled Statutes." He wasn't arrested for anything other than some dumb bitch going mental over something that he was not doing. Apparently over reaction on the part of a permanately sheeplized third party is now a crime for you. |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 5:25:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2005 5:27:24 AM EDT
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I'd shake my head, roll my eyes, and probably chuckle. You don't actually think that I would take that seriously? Real 'suicide' bombers usually try not to draw attention to themselves....at least until the bomb detonates. |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 6:22:29 AM EDT
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"Shwaiko believed Kranish to be carrying a gun and it alarmed her in violation of 720 ILCS 5/26-1(a) of the Illinois Compiled Statutes."
So.... Go on campus, tell the po-leese that everyone carrying a backpack/bookbag could be carrying a bomb, and you are alarmed in violation of 720 ILCS 5/26-1(a). |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 6:26:47 AM EDT
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+1 |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 6:26:55 AM EDT
[#45]
That sounds pretty fucking dumb to me.
 I hope he sues the crap outta them.
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Posted: 10/14/2005 6:44:37 AM EDT
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+1 shirts/clothes have all kinds of stuff printed on em nothing says that people cant wear em w/ out being arrested...... |
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Posted: 10/14/2005 7:23:15 AM EDT
[#47]
Tagged
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Posted: 10/14/2005 7:26:53 AM EDT
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WI, and IL are non-chl states and they fight it tooth and nail. They live in a fantasy land, and every day, crime is encroaching further and further into their workers paradise. I figured a long time ago, "Fuck it" and moved home to Texas. Where I'm a citizen, not a subject
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Posted: 10/14/2005 7:48:00 AM EDT
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There is more to the story. Read his thread before jumping to conclusions. |
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