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Posted: 3/28/2009 7:44:02 AM EST
$206 Ticket Paid With Urine-Soaked Coins
Man Didn't Break Postal Laws With Package

UPDATED: 10:41 am EDT March 26, 2009
PORTLAND, Ore. –– A Washington man tried to pay a more than $200 traffic ticket by sending a plastic bag filled with coins and urine to a county billing office, deputies said.

"That's something I can't wrap my mind around," said Sgt. Phil Anderchuk, of the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. "The thought process of acting consciously –– consummating the act of urinating in a box full of coins that someone is going to receive."

The man didn't break any postal laws by mailing the combination of urine and change to the Multnomah County court, reported television station KPTV in Portland. Postal officials said it is legal to mail urine or other bodily fluids as long as they are packaged properly in a way that doesn't leak or smell. County employees said the package was wrapped tightly until it reached the courthouse mailroom and didn't smell until it was opened.

Because of a policy of only accepting up to $20 in change, court workers returned his money –– postage due.

"It would be better if the gentlemen had done something that defused the situation and maybe mitigated it, rather than adding fuel to the fire," said Jason Posner, who was visiting the courthouse Wednesday.

The county doesn't intend to pursue the matter, as long as the man pays the $271 in charges that now include late fees.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:44:55 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:45:22 AM EST

I couldn't get beyond the opening.

So, how do you "soak" coins in urine?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:47:02 AM EST
Yah, would have been awesome if he did it with coins.... but Urine? Fuck guy should be arrested. Fuck who knows what kinda shit that guys is into.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:47:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 7:47:28 AM EST by Bluewaterheaven]
Urine Covered Double Tap
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:47:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By 50cal:
Wow. What a dumbass.


Fuck that, fuck the people who's sole purpose is shaking down the taxpayers for the reasons of "generating revenue".


"Just pay the fine and go away peasant...."
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:48:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By philinmedford:

I couldn't get beyond the opening.

So, how do you "soak" coins in urine?


ya, maybe bills, but I dont think the coins are gona get "soaked"
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:49:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:51:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By poink:
$206 Ticket Paid With Urine-Soaked Coins
Man Didn't Break Postal Laws With Package

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Because of a policy of only accepting up to $20 in change, court workers returned his money –– postage due.

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The county doesn't intend to pursue the matter, as long as the man pays the $271 in charges that now include late fees.



I guess he'll send in urine- soaked 20 dollar payments from here out.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:56:38 AM EST
Originally Posted By poink:
$206 Ticket Paid With Urine-Soaked Coins
Man Didn't Break Postal Laws With Package

UPDATED: 10:41 am EDT March 26, 2009
PORTLAND, Ore. –– A Washington man tried to pay a more than $200 traffic ticket by sending a plastic bag filled with coins and urine to a county billing office, deputies said.

"That's something I can't wrap my mind around," said Sgt. Phil Anderchuk, of the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. "The thought process of acting consciously –– consummating the act of urinating in a box full of coins that someone is going to receive."

The man didn't break any postal laws by mailing the combination of urine and change to the Multnomah County court, reported television station KPTV in Portland. Postal officials said it is legal to mail urine or other bodily fluids as long as they are packaged properly in a way that doesn't leak or smell. County employees said the package was wrapped tightly until it reached the courthouse mailroom and didn't smell until it was opened.

Because of a policy of only accepting up to $20 in change, court workers returned his money –– postage due.

"It would be better if the gentlemen had done something that defused the situation and maybe mitigated it, rather than adding fuel to the fire," said Jason Posner, who was visiting the courthouse Wednesday.

The county doesn't intend to pursue the matter, as long as the man pays the $271 in charges that now include late fees.


Good to know.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:57:08 AM EST
Good for him... Stickin it to the man
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 7:58:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By 50cal:
I'm all against "revenue collection agents" too, but paying in piss covered coins is beyond stupid.
He should have paid it in pennies.


Ass pennies.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:04:23 AM EST
How can the government refuse to accept government issued money? This is in reference to them only accepting $20 in change and has nothing to do with the urine side of it.

Now businesses can refuse your sale if you pay with all change but if the government demands payment how can they refuse government issued money? That would be an interesting court case to see play out.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:09:19 AM EST
I got a parking ticket for "other" in Ann Arbor. Basically it was a "you didn't do anything wrong, but pay up anyhow".

Now they have me unwilling to park in the downtown area where feral meter maids roam unchecked. I hope the businesses downtown appreciate the city's efforts.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:10:06 AM EST
ROFL. Good for him.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:14:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By JellyBelly:
I got a parking ticket for "other" in Ann Arbor. Basically it was a "you didn't do anything wrong, but pay up anyhow".

Now they have me unwilling to park in the downtown area where feral meter maids roam unchecked. I hope the businesses downtown appreciate the city's efforts.

You should've paid it with "other".
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:23:49 AM EST
He might have got away with rolling them up and soaking the rolls in piss, but to send a BAG OF PISS is sick.

a plastic bag filled with coins and urine

Rob
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:37:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By poink:
"That's something I can't wrap my mind around," said Sgt. Phil Anderchuk, of the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. "The thought process of acting consciously –– consummating the act of urinating in a box full of coins that someone is going to receive."


Good grief, get a grip on yourself. Is that the worst human behavior he's come across?

The man should be charged with a crime for doing it. I can't imagine there wasn't some law he broke.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:38:33 AM EST
I think sending a bag full of piss and money is less morally reprehensible than these revenue-generating shakedowns.

People are getting really tired of dealing with the small tyrannies of day to day life.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:40:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By C-4:
Originally Posted By poink:
"That's something I can't wrap my mind around," said Sgt. Phil Anderchuk, of the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. "The thought process of acting consciously –– consummating the act of urinating in a box full of coins that someone is going to receive."


Good grief, get a grip on yourself. Is that the worst human behavior he's come across?

The man should be charged with a crime for doing it. I can't imagine there wasn't some law he broke.



Urine is more or less sterile. Regular money probably has at least as many germs/bacteria on it.

The only thing this guy is guilty of is failing to follow the rest of the herd.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:42:08 AM EST
Sounds like he needs Baker Act intervention. Of course he's going to be a hero to all the other dysfunctional types.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:49:50 AM EST
Good for him, he should take them to court on the extra fees too, that's bullshit, they had the money they were extorting in their grubby little hands and they sent it back, now they want to charge him an additional fee? That's outrageous, it's really time to start tarring and feathering all bureaucrats that make their living extorting their fellow citizens for a measly pittance of a paycheck to be doled out by the gov't every couple of weeks.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:50:44 AM EST
Pissy attitude this one has
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:26:03 AM EST
Rule #1 - Don't invite the Man into your life.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:27:44 AM EST
Technically, urine is sterile.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:30:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
Rule #1 - Don't invite the Man into your life.


Apparently all he did was park on a public street. I guess he should have been a hermit.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:42:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By SWIRE:
How can the government refuse to accept government issued money? This is in reference to them only accepting $20 in change and has nothing to do with the urine side of it.



Because we elect idots that give the stupid government the right to make decisions like that.

We also elect idiots that give authority to the police to set up speed traps just to enhance revenue and give a parking ticket if you are 2 minutes over the parking meter.




Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:54:03 AM EST
He should send the new fine back in cash, except for $20 in pennies.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:57:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By MisterWilson:
Originally Posted By 50cal:
Wow. What a dumbass.


Fuck that, fuck the people who's sole purpose is shaking down the taxpayers for the reasons of "generating revenue".


"Just pay the fine and go away peasant...."



I agree here.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:58:32 AM EST
Pissy coins FTW...

Fuck them..I hope it becomes a nationwide phenomenon ...
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 10:14:14 AM EST
Perhaps some of you fine folks would like to receive your pay in ziplock bags of piss and pennies.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:12:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By poink:
Technically, urine is sterile.


Not if the asshat has bacteriuria or hematuria.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:16:36 AM EST
Pecunia non olet

Urine Tax (Latin: vectigal urinae) was a tax levied by the Roman emperor Nero in the 1st century upon the collection of urine. The lower classes of Roman society urinated into pots which were emptied into cesspools. The liquid was then collected from public latrines, where it served as the raw material for a number of chemical processes: it was used in tanning, and also by Roman launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woollen togas.

The tax was eventually discontinued, but it was re-enacted by Nero's successor Vespasian and applied to all public toilets. The Roman historians Suetonius and Dio Cassius report that when Vespasian's son Titus complained to him about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and told him, "Non olet! ("It doesn't stink!"). This phrase is still used today to show that money is all equally filthy (or clean), regardless of its source. Vespasian's name still attaches to public urinals in France (vespasiennes), Italy (vespasiani), and Romania (vespasiene).
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:18:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:20:10 AM EST
can only push people so far
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:21:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By Maccrage:
DUPE.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=850373

You get two cookies.


Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:22:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By Poultryinspector:
Originally Posted By 50cal:
I'm all against "revenue collection agents" too, but paying in piss covered coins is beyond stupid.
He should have paid it in pennies.


Ass pennies.



That was the FIRST thing I thought of!





Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:24:54 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:28:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By Silesius:
Originally Posted By poink:
$206 Ticket Paid With Urine-Soaked Coins
Man Didn't Break Postal Laws With Package

UPDATED: 10:41 am EDT March 26, 2009
PORTLAND, Ore. –– A Washington man tried to pay a more than $200 traffic ticket by sending a plastic bag filled with coins and urine to a county billing office, deputies said.

"That's something I can't wrap my mind around," said Sgt. Phil Anderchuk, of the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. "The thought process of acting consciously –– consummating the act of urinating in a box full of coins that someone is going to receive."

The man didn't break any postal laws by mailing the combination of urine and change to the Multnomah County court, reported television station KPTV in Portland. Postal officials said it is legal to mail urine or other bodily fluids as long as they are packaged properly in a way that doesn't leak or smell. County employees said the package was wrapped tightly until it reached the courthouse mailroom and didn't smell until it was opened.

Because of a policy of only accepting up to $20 in change, court workers returned his money –– postage due.

"It would be better if the gentlemen had done something that defused the situation and maybe mitigated it, rather than adding fuel to the fire," said Jason Posner, who was visiting the courthouse Wednesday.

The county doesn't intend to pursue the matter, as long as the man pays the $271 in charges that now include late fees.


Good to know.


I mail urine every month to the Navy drug test center.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:29:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By runcible:
Originally Posted By Poultryinspector:
Originally Posted By 50cal:
I'm all against "revenue collection agents" too, but paying in piss covered coins is beyond stupid.
He should have paid it in pennies.


Ass pennies.



That was the FIRST thing I thought of!







Everyone needs to have a collection

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:31:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By rykn0w:
can only push people so far



If only the government had to prove the violation occurred...........................
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:32:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By LHA-2:
Perhaps some of you fine folks would like to receive your pay in ziplock bags of piss and pennies.


I am not the one who is strong arming society for every fucking dime...Mother fuckers want "Change"...well here you go!
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:37:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By OlSarge2K:
ROFL. Good for him.


Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:51:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:54:37 AM EST
Stick it to the man!
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:55:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By poink:
...
"It would be better if the gentlemen had done something that defused the situation and maybe mitigated it, rather than adding fuel to the fire,"...


An aside: I hate bureaucratic office-fucks that use "mitigate" like it's a magic word.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 11:57:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By LHA-2:
Perhaps some of you fine folks would like to receive your pay in ziplock bags of piss and pennies.
Direct deposit FTW!

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:09:59 PM EST
He should get another ticket or jail time for pulling that little stunt.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:11:19 PM EST
Dumb ass.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:31:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By walttx:
He should get another ticket or jail time for pulling that little stunt.

For breaking what law exactly?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 12:39:28 PM EST
Why doesn't the situation fall under assault with bodily fluids? Would he have had to actually toss an open urine baggy?
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