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Posted: 7/24/2013 6:10:44 PM EDT


Maine hikers drive to ocean deaths








Holy shit, I don't know what to say

 
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Final destination.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:12:34 PM EDT
They called 911 but didn't get out of the car!?!
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:13:05 PM EDT
Darwin will not be denied.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:13:31 PM EDT
Ummm, hang up the phone and get the fuck out of the car?
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Sometimes man, when it's your time, it's your time.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:15:06 PM EDT
ive seen this somewhere before...
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Maybe the 911 operator told them they did not need to do that.
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You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:16:22 PM EDT
I think I saw this movie.  Final Destination?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:16:31 PM EDT
I feel bad for them but it truly is amazing how stupid a human can be.

I mean, if you can't see that well, why go fast enough to fly down a boat ramp, far enough out into the water where you sink?

Hell, hitting a puddle of water a foot deep damn near stops you. I can't see how it's possible to accomplish what they did.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:16:37 PM EDT
Situational awareness.

Some people were made to live in the city, in protected areas.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:18:19 PM EDT
Comment redacted. Tragedy.

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Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:21:45 PM EDT
"In local news, today a couple of hikers who were trying to drive around the world, DROWNED just offshore."
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:26:12 PM EDT
Having just recently visited a lot of Maine a couple of weeks ago, I can see *in a way* how this could happen.

The fog can roll in up there in a moments notice and it can be thick, very thick. I have also been to several of those little towns like that where there are boat ramps just right off the main roads that just goes straight on out.

Maybe they were drunk or just really unaware of things, but under the right conditions.........
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:26:33 PM EDT
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I feel bad that the dog had stupid owners.
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Having just recently visited a lot of Maine a couple of weeks ago, I can see *in a way* how this could happen.



The fog can roll in up there in a moments notice and it can be thick, very thick. I have also been to several of those little towns like that where there are boat ramps just right off the main roads that just goes straight on out.



Maybe they were drunk or just really unaware of things, but under the right conditions.........
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Last year we had a guy in Whittier get off the ferry and literally drive 100 yards and take a right turn and drive down the boat ramp into the harbor. He was following the directions from his GPS. He had to be rescued as he was also too dumb to exit the vehicle as it filled with water.

 
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Poor dog.
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A pregnant Maine woman and her friend visiting from Pennsylvania got lost hiking and were rescued but died later that evening,
authorities said, when they accidentally drove their car into the ocean in the nighttime fog...


Determined Darwin is determined!  

EDIT:  Poor doggie.  
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You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

The amount of pressure on the door depends on how deeply it is submerged.
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My first thought
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Rip.
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Some people were made to live in the city, in protected areas.not meant to pass on their genetic material
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You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

one of the main reasons I carry a gun... pop pop swim swim
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one had a 12 year old
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You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

one of the main reasons I carry a gun... pop pop swim swim


accidently driving into the ocean is one of the main reasons you carry a gun?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:41:47 PM EDT
Three college girls drove into a pond in 2009, same deal, made cell phone calls instead of getting the fuck out of the vehicle



http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33597582/ns/us_news-life/t/tearful-goodbyes-nd-pond-where-died/#.UfCQCG3AG-c
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'Recalculating'
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You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

one of the main reasons I carry a gun... pop pop swim swim



I always have a gun or two on me but I keep glass breakers in our vehicles. I'd hate to touch off a 10mm round in a closed car unless I HAD to.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 6:42:20 PM EDT
I don't feel sorry for the humans, but for the dog, yes.
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They called 911 but didn't get out of the car!?!

You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

The amount of pressure on the door depends on how deeply it is submerged.



44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!
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44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!
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They called 911 but didn't get out of the car!?!

You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

The amount of pressure on the door depends on how deeply it is submerged.



44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!


You have to wait until the car is almost full of water and the pressure equalizes.
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Three college girls drove into a pond in 2009, same deal, made cell phone calls instead of getting the fuck out of the vehicle

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33597582/ns/us_news-life/t/tearful-goodbyes-nd-pond-where-died/#.UfCQCG3AG-c
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Jesus Christ I did not need to read that, almost near identical situation.  Now my fucking conspiracy meter is going berserk, hate that shit.
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44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!
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They called 911 but didn't get out of the car!?!

You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

The amount of pressure on the door depends on how deeply it is submerged.



44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!


What if only the bottom 1/3 of the door is submerged?   Then it's less depth (pressure per sq inch) and less area (fewer square inches) than the scenario given above.  

How far into the water is the door the instant it lands in the water and bobs back up again?

eta: Also... most of the pressure you're fighting against is on the end of the door opposite the hinge.   The closer to the hinge, the less effect the pressure has on your ability to open the door.    Riddle me THAT math, batman.  
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You have to wait until the car is almost full of water and the pressure equalizes.
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They called 911 but didn't get out of the car!?!

You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

The amount of pressure on the door depends on how deeply it is submerged.



44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!


You have to wait until the car is almost full of water and the pressure equalizes.

But once the water is that deep, the car sinks fast.      I also remember something about cars flipping before that point due to tire buoyancy.
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ETA: On second thought
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What if only the bottom 1/3 of the door is submerged?   Then it's less depth (pressure per sq inch) and less area (fewer square inches) than the scenario given above.  

How far into the water is the door the instant it lands in the water and bobs back up again?
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They called 911 but didn't get out of the car!?!

You can not open the doors until the extrnal water pressure equalizes.     If they had power windows, the battey was probably shorted out in salt water.

The amount of pressure on the door depends on how deeply it is submerged.



44.5 PSI, per square inch at 100 feet. (fresh water is 44.0 per 100ft)

there are at least 6 square feet on the average car door = 864 sq/in

Five feet down (44.5/100*5) = 2.25 Pounds per square inch

2.25 * 864 Sq/in = 1922.4 pounds of pressure keeping the door shut ...just five feet down.

You ain't opening that!


What if only the bottom 1/3 of the door is submerged?   Then it's less depth (pressure per sq inch) and less area (fewer square inches) than the scenario given above.  

How far into the water is the door the instant it lands in the water and bobs back up again?


Pretty deep.    A car makes a shitty boat.   How much does an engine and transmission weigh?

1/3 of the door in the above example would be 640lbs.
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it was a boat ramp, not a clif... GTFO and swim back....
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Some boat ramps have pretty abrupt endings.
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Pretty deep.    A car makes a shitty boat.   How much does an engine and transmission weigh?

1/3 of the door in the above example would be 640lbs.
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640 pounds assuming you were working against all the pressure that is being applied to the entire surface of the door evenly.    The closer to the fulcrum point (the door hinge), the less it impedes your ability to open the door.

Mythbusters needs to try it again.  
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Having just recently visited a lot of Maine a couple of weeks ago, I can see *in a way* how this could happen.

The fog can roll in up there in a moments notice and it can be thick, very thick. I have also been to several of those little towns like that where there are boat ramps just right off the main roads that just goes straight on out.

Maybe they were drunk or just really unaware of things, but under the right conditions.........
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I was just in Maine last week, I thought you were going to say something about the dumbass hippies up there. Holy shit, when did they get so thick?
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Dbl tap
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640 pounds assuming you were working against all the pressure that is being applied to the entire surface of the door evenly.    The closer to the fulcrum point (the door hinge), the less it impedes your ability to open the door.

Mythbusters needs to try it again.  
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Pretty deep.    A car makes a shitty boat.   How much does an engine and transmission weigh?

1/3 of the door in the above example would be 640lbs.


640 pounds assuming you were working against all the pressure that is being applied to the entire surface of the door evenly.    The closer to the fulcrum point (the door hinge), the less it impedes your ability to open the door.

Mythbusters needs to try it again.  


I think they did it three times.    Two I know of.
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