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Posted: 9/30/2014 1:21:38 PM EST
Please, please build this Mazda

The mid engine RX9 Concept

http://jalopnik.com/a-glimpse-of-a-future-rotary-powered-mazda-rx-9-1640301421





Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:51:53 PM EST
How great would it be if it also had the Furai sound also?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 2:54:59 PM EST
Riiiiiggghhhtttt... Mazda drives me nuts with their incessant RX pandering but never bringing anything to fruition.

Maybe build more than one and don't let Top Gear melt it this time...
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:51:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By tabraha:
Riiiiiggghhhtttt... Mazda drives me nuts with their incessant RX pandering but never bringing anything to fruition.

Maybe build more than one and don't let Top Gear melt it this time...
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Hah my thoughts exactly
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:52:39 PM EST
Concept cars are always so fucking sexy.

And then they come out with the production model.

Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:48:32 PM EST
Wankel engines can't compete with piston engines. They are essentially a '3 stroke' engine, and get poor fuel economy, and produce a higher level of pollution, requiring extra pollution control equipment, which, you guessed it, decreases fuel economy.

If Wankel engines actually worked well for passenger vehicles, they would be in EVERY car being manufactured today. Why aren't they?

Yet, despite the early claims, they never became the engine that was going to replace piston engines, well, everywhere.

I had a co-worker that bought a small (about the same size as a Toyota Corolla, at the time) used Mazda with a Wankel engine, in the mid to late 1970's. I can't remember the model name or number, but IIRC, it had 3 rotors. She got 11 miles to the gallon in city driving, and 14 MPG for freeway driving. She spent hundreds of dollars at the Mazda dealership, trying to get it to run properly, or at least get decent fuel mileage.

She wound up trading the car on another used car, a Honda Civic, which got TRIPLE the gas mileage in city driving, and almost triple for freeway driving.

This is why only Mazda was foolish enough to put a Wankel engine in their cars. They were a pretty dismal failure.

And the RX-8. That resurrection of the RX-7 was such a resounding success, it lasted a whopping 8 years of production.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:50:56 PM EST
Interesting from the side and rear.

The front looks like a friggin' Corvette.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:51:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 74novaman:
Concept cars are always so fucking sexy.

And then they come out with the production model.

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Not one time has any production model held a candle to its concept
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:52:15 PM EST
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:55:40 PM EST
I'll believe it when I see it. I've heard 2017 slated as the year the new rotary comes out, and I'll buy the first one if it does though. M/E or not.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:56:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jiro:
Interesting from the side and rear.

The front looks like a friggin' Corvette.
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It looks like a Furai...
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 9:57:54 PM EST
That looks like a mess.

I want a production, street legal Furai.
Link Posted: 10/1/2014 10:00:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2014 10:01:35 PM EST by Notcalifornialegal]
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Originally Posted By Goldenlight:
Wankel engines can't compete with piston engines. They are essentially a '3 stroke' engine, and get poor fuel economy, and produce a higher level of pollution, requiring extra pollution control equipment, which, you guessed it, decreases fuel economy.

If Wankel engines actually worked well for passenger vehicles, they would be in EVERY car being manufactured today. Why aren't they?

Yet, despite the early claims, they never became the engine that was going to replace piston engines, well, everywhere.

I had a co-worker that bought a small (about the same size as a Toyota Corolla, at the time) used Mazda with a Wankel engine, in the mid to late 1970's. I can't remember the model name or number, but IIRC, it had 3 rotors. She got 11 miles to the gallon in city driving, and 14 MPG for freeway driving. She spent hundreds of dollars at the Mazda dealership, trying to get it to run properly, or at least get decent fuel mileage.

She wound up trading the car on another used car, a Honda Civic, which got TRIPLE the gas mileage in city driving, and almost triple for freeway driving.

This is why only Mazda was foolish enough to put a Wankel engine in their cars. They were a pretty dismal failure.

And the RX-8. That resurrection of the RX-7 was such a resounding success, it lasted a whopping 8 years of production.
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No but they're fun as shit which is why people buy them. My Rx-8 has given me more enjoyment than any other purchase I've made.

And If mazda would quit dicking around with us and give us a balls out performance coupe like the Rx-7 with sub 3k lbs, 300+ hp for under 35k they would sell faster than porn mags in a high school. Bonus points for mid engine set up with multiple options like a tri rotor.

Rotaries won't ever replace piston engines, but they can dominate the performance category if Mazda would step up.
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