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Posted: 2/23/2002 7:32:24 PM EDT
1 Dead, 10 Hurt in Biker Gang Brawl By FRANK ELTMAN .c The Associated Press PLAINVIEW, N.Y. (AP) - Rival motorcycle gangs armed with daggers, baseball bats and a machine gun clashed at an indoor motorcycle and tattoo expo called the Hellraiser Ball, authorities said. One man was killed and at least 10 people were injured. About 60 people were in custody Saturday night and the number could grow, said Nassau County Chief of Detectives Herbert Faust. Faust said four people were shot, one fatally, and others injured when the fight erupted around 4:15 p.m. at the Vanderbilt, a concert and catering hall in Plainview, N.Y. Faust said the fight broke out between members of the Hells Angels motorcycle club, whose Long Island chapter sponsored the event, and a rival gang, the Pagans. As many as 100 Pagans showed up at the event, which drew about 1,000 people, many of them Hells Angels members, Faust said. ``There's been a long-standing feud between the two motorcycle gangs,'' he said. ``At some point, there was a major conflict. We have gunshots, we have people stabbed, a major fight.'' Several people who fled the scene were apprehended nearby, Nassau County Police Commissioner William Willett said. Police also recovered numerous daggers, baseball bats and an Uzi automatic weapon, Faust said. The expo had been under surveillance by police, but was not expected to be violent, he said. ``We had surveillance. We were aware of the event. We had no reason to believe it would have erupted into this type of conflict,'' he said. One man died in surgery and two others were being treated at North Shore University Hospital in Plainview, according to Betty Olt, a hospital spokeswoman. She would not describe their injuries. Nassau University Medical Center was treating eight injured people, hospital spokeswoman Shelley Lotenberg said. Police were searching for more suspects. Scott Casagrande of Medford, N.Y., said he was displaying a motorcycle at the show when he saw ``a herd of people running toward us, saying 'Get out, get out, there's gunshots.''' ``Everybody ran,'' he added. ``I heard gunfire downstairs but I thought nothing of it because a band was playing. It was very loud.'' According to the event's Web site, tattoo and piercing artists, motorcycle shops and other vendors paid up to $300 to rent space at the expo. AP-NY-02-23-02 2225EST
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Suuure it was a machine gun [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 7:53:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Suuure it was a machine gun [rolleyes]
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It couldn't be--NFA items are illegal in New York, and no one ever breaks gun control laws. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 8:03:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zak:
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: Suuure it was a machine gun [rolleyes]
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It couldn't be--NFA items are illegal in New York, and no one ever breaks gun control laws. [rolleyes]
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Machine gun my arse, it was probably just a Tec-9. If its black and scarry looking they call it a machine gun out there.
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 8:04:15 PM EDT
Of course they do, Zak, and with the police watching, you know they wouldn't do anything illegal.[:D] Criminals obey all gun laws, that's why NY passes so many.
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 9:35:40 PM EDT
But NY isn't a class 3 state! Just HOW could it be possible for someone to acquire a Machine Gun[?]
Link Posted: 2/23/2002 9:44:25 PM EDT
oh wait this is liong island. aren even hasdguns illegal there.. sheeesh
Link Posted: 2/24/2002 9:12:20 PM EDT
it was probably just a Tec-9. If its black and scarry looking they call it a machine gun out there.
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It was actually a M11 9mm. The news guys here kept calling it an Uzi.(Dumb-asses) The cops got 3 shotguns, 3handguns and the M11. Brass Knuckles, 2 Tables of Knives, and Various clubs, bats, ax handles, and a collapsible baton. All hell broke loose at the event due to the Pagans showing up at a Hells Angels event. All the Pagans were apparently from VA, PA and other states. (no NYer's) I know this doesn't help law abiding gunowners but I love this stuff. JerrY
Link Posted: 2/24/2002 11:18:56 PM EDT
This reminds me of a story I heard about a year ago. There was an officer involved shooting. The story said a man came at the police with a Machinegun Assualt rifle. They were showing the police around the house and a Police officer moving the rifle away from the seen. The camera man zoomed in on the "machinegun assualt rifle" and the reporter made a point to say that appears to be the gun that was involved in the shooting, there it was a 10/22 with a 25 round mag, an all weather version to be exact. Reporters will do anything to make things sound worse. The officer did shoot the guy and I dont blame him if a guy came at him with a rifle I believe he had everyright to do so.
Link Posted: 2/24/2002 11:27:06 PM EDT
You know the Liberal NY media is going to hype up the story! Why doesn't NY simply ban motorcycle clubs? That'll fix it![;D]
Link Posted: 2/25/2002 12:23:19 AM EDT
Did anyone notice that the Chief of Detectives name was Faust? I think made a deal with the true Devil, Hilary Clinton.
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