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Posted: 1/20/2015 8:44:17 AM EDT
Two questions for discussion. When will healthcare admin realize that these types of bacteria are normal bacteria that have adapted through evolutionary process and are now the typical bacteria that colonize industrial society? What percentage of our healthy population are undiagnosed carriers? It may be to non politically correct to acknowledge this fact.
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I dont have enough time to tell you....
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This is evolution taking place before our eyes whether you acknowledge this fact or not!
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did you know Tea Tree oil is strong enough to kill MSRA and Staph ... good stuff to keep in your med kit... but it will also remove paint and eat plastic..
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Two questions for discussion. When will healthcare admin realize that these types of bacteria are normal bacteria that have adapted through evolutionary process and are now the typical bacteria that colonize industrial society? What percentage of our healthy population are undiagnosed carriers? It may be to non politically correct to acknowledge this fact. View Quote just curious what does healthcare admin have to do with MRSA and VRE other than be held accountable for the spreading of these bugs to patients, patients families and employees when done within the confines of their facility? you are 100% correct about undiagnosed carriers but within a facility all precautions should be taken. if you want to get technical family pets are the number one agent of infectivity in repeat infections. I've got a lot of time in large hospitals over the years as well as my own laboratory, so I know both ends of the deal. |
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did you know Tea Tree oil is strong enough to kill MSRA and Staph ... good stuff to keep in your med kit... but it will also remove paint and eat plastic.. View Quote You can also destroy those same bacteria (along with Hep C, AIDS, rabies, etc) with plain ol fire! Although, it tends to negatively affect the patient as well. |
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Over prescription of antibiotics. They adapt. In hospitals predominantly. A huge petri dish...
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MRSA...my wife and I are both potential carriers. Her parents both contracted it in hospitals and were carriers afterwards.
I have no idea what MSRA is. |
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MRSA...my wife and I are both potential carriers. Her parents both contracted it in hospitals and were carriers afterwards. I have no idea what MSRA is. View Quote Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus. Everybody (well almost everybody) has it on one form or another. I saw a recent stat somewhere (I can not cite it) that 80% of direct care providers have it in the nares after 6 months. All having MRSA means is that one has to have a treatment slightly more advanced in some cases, to having a treatment including IV antibiotic treatment, which generally means a higher level of care. Most hospitals and rehabs can bill at a higher rate for these interventions. What it means: "more money to the providers" (uber simplification of a complex issue; but you get the jist) |
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I have an understanding of the antibiotic resistant bacterias (non health industry person, I just read a lot). What I don't understand is the statement, " It may be to non politically correct to acknowledge this fact." What does that mean?
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Had it twice in both elbows. One you've had it once, you're more susceptible.
http://www.gunnuts.net/2014/09/03/on-the-danger-of-being-a-gear-and-training-luddite/ |
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Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus. Everybody (well almost everybody) has it on one form or another. I saw a recent stat somewhere (I can not cite it) that 80% of direct care providers have it in the nares after 6 months. All having MRSA means is that one has to have a treatment slightly more advanced in some cases, to having a treatment including IV antibiotic treatment, which generally means a higher level of care. Most hospitals and rehabs can bill at a higher rate for these interventions. What it means: "more money to the providers" (uber simplification of a complex issue; but you get the jist) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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MRSA...my wife and I are both potential carriers. Her parents both contracted it in hospitals and were carriers afterwards. I have no idea what MSRA is. Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus. Everybody (well almost everybody) has it on one form or another. I saw a recent stat somewhere (I can not cite it) that 80% of direct care providers have it in the nares after 6 months. All having MRSA means is that one has to have a treatment slightly more advanced in some cases, to having a treatment including IV antibiotic treatment, which generally means a higher level of care. Most hospitals and rehabs can bill at a higher rate for these interventions. What it means: "more money to the providers" (uber simplification of a complex issue; but you get the jist) Stop... just... Stop... being eaten up with a MRSA or VRE in after being in a clinical environment is a bitch to everyone, especially those who are immunocompromised. |
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When more than 50% of the population has these types of bacteria it is, indeed, "normal".
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Once your immune system is exposed to a new type of bacteria, the immune system is better prepared a second exposure.
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Think about it. The liberal response to any situation is "we have to do something, anything" this is accompanied by intense wringing of hands. What we have to do in a hospital is laughable! But we are doing something! Lol!
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I still would like to know what MSRA is, because I think it is a typo.
I know what MRSA is. If OP wants to speculate or toss around "facts", he should at least know how to spell what he is talking about. FIX THE TITLE! |
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Quoted: That's not what I was told by three doctors, one of which is an infectious diseases specialist and another, a neurosurgeon with regards to MRSA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Once your immune system is exposed to a new type of bacteria, the immune system is better prepared a second exposure. That's not what I was told by three doctors, one of which is an infectious diseases specialist and another, a neurosurgeon with regards to MRSA. Same here. Had MRSA just over 3 years ago and it wrecked my entire immune system. |
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If a human cannot adapt to bacterial adaptation then evolution will take place in the human population. How good is your immune system is the question of the day.
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Lol
I bet the OP takes colloidal silver and DMSO And has all of the "science" he needs to reassure himself he can cure himself without doctors. |
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When more than 50% of the population has these types of bacteria it is, indeed, "normal". Education credentials please? I'm with Typhiod on this one..I'm ass deep in dealing with MRSA and VRE infections/carriers in both humans and animal specimens. |
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I am asking a simple fucking question. Why do credentials have any relevance to questions that have been asked?
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I am asking a simple fucking question. Why do credentials have any relevance to questions that have been asked? View Quote You keep talking like you know what you are saying, but it turns into jibber jabber when you hit the submit button. One incorrect statement after another. Are you an specialist in Immunology, or a parking attendant? |
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No matter what any says or thinks or argues, evolution is and will take place!
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In summary, it's just a matter of time until all bacteria is resistant. Can your immune system handle this challenge?
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I am asking a simple fucking question. Why do credentials have any relevance to questions that have been asked? View Quote Because it will help determine if you are qualified to actually speak intelligently about a complex subject, or just a nobody with poor grammar and punctuation, who is speaking out of their ass about a topic they can not fully understand. Does that answer your question? |
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In summary, it's just a matter of time until all bacteria is resistant. Can your immune system handle this challenge? View Quote Your immune system, or "our" immune system? And you are riding on a shitload of assumptions........I won't even begin on that. Are you getting some chain letter from the "oh mah god the world is collapsing Obama is gonna take x next" files, that my Father in Law didn't send to me? |
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Quoted: If a human cannot adapt to bacterial adaptation then evolution will take place in the human population. How good is your immune system is the question of the day. View Quote Had a very strong, healthy system up till that point. MRSA can wreck anyone and will kill anyone that doesn't get medical attention as soon as possible. So I guess under your premise, no one will 'evolve' since they need doctors to help them survive this. |
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Had a very strong, healthy system up till that point. MRSA can wreck anyone and will kill anyone that doesn't get medical attention as soon as possible. So I guess under your premise, no one will 'evolve' since they need doctors to help them survive this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If a human cannot adapt to bacterial adaptation then evolution will take place in the human population. How good is your immune system is the question of the day. Had a very strong, healthy system up till that point. MRSA can wreck anyone and will kill anyone that doesn't get medical attention as soon as possible. So I guess under your premise, no one will 'evolve' since they need doctors to help them survive this. I've had MRSA. Took a year of on/off Bactrim treatment to kill it. I'm as healthy, if not healthier than before. I did have a small ear infection a few months back. Zithro took care of it in 5 days. |
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Quoted: I've had MRSA. Took a year of on/off Bactrim treatment to kill it. I'm as healthy, if not healthier than before. I did have a small ear infection a few months back. Zithro took care of it in 5 days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If a human cannot adapt to bacterial adaptation then evolution will take place in the human population. How good is your immune system is the question of the day. Had a very strong, healthy system up till that point. MRSA can wreck anyone and will kill anyone that doesn't get medical attention as soon as possible. So I guess under your premise, no one will 'evolve' since they need doctors to help them survive this. I've had MRSA. Took a year of on/off Bactrim treatment to kill it. I'm as healthy, if not healthier than before. I did have a small ear infection a few months back. Zithro took care of it in 5 days. Good the hear that. I almost waited too long to get help and it spread somewhat through my body. Just now beginning to get back on my feet. |
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Had MRSA in 2009. No idea how I got it but it didn't take me long to get over it with some antibiotics. Key thing is my body walled it off and formed an abscess which helped me greatly.
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Time will prove me to be right, resistant bacteria will be the new normal. It's inexorable!
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I still have no idea what OP is trying to get across in this thread.
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