MP5a3 vs. MP5K vs. MP5PDW

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Posted: 5/11/2003 7:54:18 PM EDT

I need advice. Which one would you get? and why?

thx

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:14:59 PM EDT

[#1]

Any I could afford They way out of my price range.

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:42:13 PM EDT

[#2]

What would be the primary purpose of the weapon?

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:44:55 PM EDT

[#3]

1. MP5A3, most accessories and do-dad available. Parts are cheapest (relatively speaking of course), intermediate bbl length makes is the most practical. A3 and A2 stock can be used without an adaptor.

2. MP5K-PDW, still get a threaded 3-lug bbl to add a can or flash-hider if you wish. Folding stock works ok.

3. MP5K, if you don't put on the PDW stock, it's basically a full auto pistol with a forward grip. No bbl attachment point for can or flash-hider. Small and cool, but pretty useless otherwise.

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:45:29 PM EDT

[#4]

Dont get the K. If you want a room broom get a MAC. Get one with a stock, I say.

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:49:25 PM EDT

[#5]

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What would be the primary purpose of the weapon?

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fun, fun, fun... besides why the hell not?

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:54:35 PM EDT

[#6]

I would only get the K if it came with the briefcase.

Posted: 5/11/2003 8:59:18 PM EDT

[#7]

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1. MP5A3, most accessories and do-dad available. Parts are cheapest (relatively speaking of course), intermediate bbl length makes is the most practical. A3 and A2 stock can be used without an adaptor.

2. MP5K-PDW, still get a threaded 3-lug bbl to add a can or flash-hider if you wish. Folding stock works ok.

3. MP5K, if you don't put on the PDW stock, it's basically a full auto pistol with a forward grip. No bbl attachment point for can or flash-hider. Small and cool, but pretty useless otherwise.

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hey... just the guy I need to talk to. welp I plan on getting a sear based gun. My aim is to eventually have an A3 and a PDW. Most likely I'll wind up swaping one sear amongst the two host guns.

Most of the PDW conversions I've seen are also lugged, where as the K's aren't lugged or threaded. It's kind of bastardized but what can ya do?

I think I've pretty much limited this to the A3 or PDW. The A3 is definitely the most practical of the group but the PDW is just so damn cool. I haven't shot either so I really can't compare the actual performance/feel of the two.

rssc

Posted: 5/11/2003 9:00:45 PM EDT

[#8]

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Dont get the K. If you want a room broom get a MAC. Get one with a stock, I say.

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I've got an M11/9 and while it's cool... it's no HK. An unmarried HK sear is so versatile, it's a great buy.

rssc

Posted: 5/11/2003 9:02:17 PM EDT

[#9]

Then how about the A3 and a V53?

Posted: 5/11/2003 9:07:22 PM EDT

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Then how about the A3 and a V53?

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Well I'm kind of holding on to see how people like their V53's. So far so good but we'll know for sure pretty soon.

I'm sure if the V53 proves to be as good as I've heard so far, it'll probably be the third.

rssc

Posted: 5/11/2003 9:11:12 PM EDT

[#11]

A3 with RAS, forward grip, light and aimpoint.

Then the K or PDW will have nothing on it, except for having a flimsier stock and a four inch shorter barrel.

Posted: 5/11/2003 9:36:01 PM EDT

[#12]

Full size. I discussed this in another thread last week I think. Having shot both, they are both alot of fun, but the full size is fun AND practical AND accurate. The Mp5K series is fun in the same way that a Krinkov is fun, but after you've sprayed your first thousand rounds through and you realize the gun won't ever hit a man-sized target at 50 yards on full auto, where do you go? With the full size Mp5 you can practice hitting a man sized target at 50 yards with a 3 round burst, then a 4 round burst, then a 10 round burst, with all ten shots in the paper at 50 yards. And if you want, you can always retract the stock and hose it around up close too. The full size Mp5 just has alot more to offer.

Oh yeah, hope you've saved up about $11,000.

Posted: 5/11/2003 9:44:15 PM EDT

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Full size. I discussed this in another thread last week I think. Having shot both, they are both alot of fun, but the full size is fun AND practical AND accurate. The Mp5K series is fun in the same way that a Krinkov is fun, but after you've sprayed your first thousand rounds through and you realize the gun won't ever hit a man-sized target at 50 yards on full auto, where do you go? With the full size Mp5 you can practice hitting a man sized target at 50 yards with a 3 round burst, then a 4 round burst, then a 10 round burst, with all ten shots in the paper at 50 yards. And if you want, you can always retract the stock and hose it around up close too. The full size Mp5 just has alot more to offer.

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You know, I've heard that the K is quite a bit less accurate then the A3 due to the lack of a stock. Conversely I've heard that due to the PDW's folding stock it's actually comparable to the a3 (a little less).

Oh yeah, hope you've saved up about $11,000.

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YEP, don't remind me. I may get the sear first then have the gun built up at a later date. That'll probably cost a little bit more in the long run, but the immediate out of pocket cost will be less.

Ohh why couldn't I have decided to do this 10 years ago.....

rssc

Posted: 5/12/2003 12:01:09 AM EDT

[#14]

rssc you can do it either way you want, but think of it this way:

1. Get the sear first. Run the sear in any number of sub-$1500 clones, including Century arms, Vector or even (shiver) Special Weapons, until you save up the $4500 that an SBR'd HK94 is going to cost ya.

2. Get the SBR'd HK94 first so you have something that at least is genuine HK and looks just like an Mp5. You can sight it in, work out any kinks in the gun, accessorize, and get in marksmanship practice while you save up for your sear.

Now THERE'S a conundrum for ya!

Oh, imho the PDW is much less stable in full auto fire, maybe on semi-auto the accuracy is comparable, but with the folding stock and such a small package it tends to flex and rock back and forth a little bit if you hold the trigger down. The full size Mp5 just sits there, very little recoil (just a gentle push really), and the recoil is straight back, not side to side. If you can, shoot both before spending your $11 grand.

This is me doing nighttime room clearing stuff a couple of years ago, unfortunately in Missouri you can't get suppressors without a class II license unless you're a LEO--this particular gun is a LEO gun.

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Posted: 5/12/2003 12:21:50 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
1. Get the sear first. Run the sear in any number of sub-$1500 clones, including Century arms, Vector or even (shiver) Special Weapons, until you save up the $4500 that an SBR'd HK94 is going to cost ya.

2. Get the SBR'd HK94 first so you have something that at least is genuine HK and looks just like an Mp5. You can sight it in, work out any kinks in the gun, accessorize, and get in marksmanship practice while you save up for your sear.

Now THERE'S a conundrum for ya!

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If you get the Sear first, it would be unnecessary to pay for an SBR stamp since an MG can have a short barrel. Saves you $200. Plus the sear will go up in value even faster than the HK94, so it might be a good idea to get the sear first to make the total expense less in the long run.

If you end up using the sear in another gun also, you'll still need to pay the $200 SBR tax on the HK94 if it will be sitting there with a short barrel and no registered auto sear.

Posted: 5/12/2003 8:23:02 AM EDT

[#16]

Hey guys thanks for the responses...

I'm definitely going to get the sear / seargun first. I don't even want to wait 6 months... no telling what the sear will cost then!

I'll have to SBR the host guns as I plan on swapping the sear between several different firearms. I think I'm just going to find the best price I can on a.) a sear or b.) a sear gun MP5 type firearm. If I get the PDW now, I'll get an A3 host gun later and vice versa.