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Posted: 9/30/2007 5:29:33 PM EDT
[#1]
19Delta, Cav Scout. If you want excitement that's where it is.
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Posted: 9/30/2007 5:30:21 PM EDT
[#2]
19 Kilo, Armor
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Posted: 9/30/2007 7:21:01 PM EDT
[#3]
+1 there is only one. |
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Posted: 9/30/2007 7:25:47 PM EDT
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Airborne is not a MOS It is an ASI (additional skill indicator) You can go to Airborne school from any MOS, and there are Airborne slots for many of them - INCLUDING 12B (Combat Engineer)... Stay out of Aviation.... My preference is 19K (M1 Armor Crewman - the ultimate 'large caliber weapon') (I'll be re-classing next year after Iraq), but Armor doesn't jump out of airplanes, so if you want to do that... |
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Posted: 9/30/2007 7:48:05 PM EDT
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I have no preference, just a suggestion looking at your age--old man
 .You might look at something that will give you a ride most of the time. |
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Posted: 9/30/2007 8:18:55 PM EDT
[#6]
11-BRAVO.
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Posted: 9/30/2007 8:26:43 PM EDT
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92R parachute rigger, guaranteed Airborne school! and you get to jump several times a year. Though most of the riggers I know are kinda slow.... but if you want airborne more than anything else.... Im trying to get to go to Air Borne this summer, went to Air Assault last summer had a good time... for the most part... my hands though do start to hurt whenever I see gravel now.....
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Posted: 9/30/2007 8:28:52 PM EDT
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Don't wear your Air Assault wings to Jump school...unless things have changed.
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Posted: 9/30/2007 8:49:44 PM EDT
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don't worry, I watched enough Air Borne guys get reamed for saying "Yes, Sargent Airborne!" accidentally to the Air Assault Sargent's!
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Posted: 10/1/2007 2:46:51 AM EDT
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+1 and you can still go airborne. Hope you enjoy walking. Regardless of what they tell you Armored Cav is armor on foot. |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 6:38:19 AM EDT
[#11]
Care to elaborate? I'm considering reclassing and aviation has been one of my options... |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 9:25:21 AM EDT
[#12]
What branch are you trying to get into at the age of 37?
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Posted: 10/1/2007 9:44:03 AM EDT
[#13]
71 Lima
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Posted: 10/1/2007 9:49:58 AM EDT
[#14]
It's a 42 Lima now , and a very noble MOS |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 10:37:07 AM EDT
[#15]
Yes, please tell us more.............. |
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Posted: 10/1/2007 3:14:12 PM EDT
[#16]
Go airborne, all the way! |
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Posted: 10/2/2007 7:07:49 AM EDT
[#17]
The mistake I made was NOT going avation.
 What have you got against rotor heads?
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Posted: 10/2/2007 8:39:20 AM EDT
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11B When I went through basic we had a guy that was around 37-40 going in for the first time. He managed.
We are either working our ass off training, stuck on shit details( a lot of the time) or shamming like mad men. Day to day its not that fun and exciting. I doubt any mos really is, unless you are training or engaged somehow. Garrison is not that crazy exciting. Combat engineers with us seem to get fucked in the ass. They are always in here till stupid late o'clock and as far as I can tell they are not doing anything all that exciting. Mostly waiting around the arms room looking angry. But thats just that particular company. Don't be an MP. Just don't. Don't be a rigger. You'll want to kill yourself after packing your 1000000000 parachute. They sit in a room with long ass tables and pack parachutes all day long. Yeah they get to jump, but you don't want to deal with that bullshit. I am not sure I would want to be a private at that age so more power to you. I know a lot of the older privates get treated differently(we have a 25 yo E1), but still expect to get put on shit details. You probably will get promoted faster and given responsibility due to your age though if you are squared away. |
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Posted: 10/2/2007 9:12:12 AM EDT
[#19]
WTF do have against aviation? Its one of the best branches of the Army for a guy who wants a job when he's not doing Army duty. If you go Guard there are good paying Fed. Tech jobs and AGR jobs. I'm 15U3F, Chinook Flight Engineer. I think its the best job in the Army. They pay me to fly around, I get to go all over the place and shoot machine guns from the plane.  It takes a fair amount of time and ambition to get to flight engineer though. Once you make it through helicopter school you go to maintenance and then work your way up.
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Posted: 10/2/2007 11:51:15 AM EDT
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another +1 for aviation! The stuff have done and places I have gone in the last 5 years since transitioning boggles my mind. I fly a lot though, thats what keeps me coming back. I scored a permanent tech job too! Great place to work and sweet bennies!
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Posted: 10/2/2007 11:53:22 AM EDT
[#21]
11B or 19D.
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Posted: 10/2/2007 12:04:11 PM EDT
[#22]
19Delta hands down. The best years of my life....
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Posted: 10/2/2007 4:34:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Depends on your personality. Are you an A1 type? If so, I would def advise going into Combat Arms. If you don't, then you will regret it and feel inferior your career. Not bashing any other MOSs, people just have different interests.
I am 21B, and YES, you can go Airborne, anyone can actually, but when you enlist (AD), depending on your MOS (again, this is more with combat arms 11B, 21B, 19D, etc) you might be given an Airborne option. Just make sure you get it in your contract. While I do enjoy being a Combat Engineer when we actually get to go out and do our job, I really regret not going 11B and am always trying to get into that MOS. Just my personal opinion. Good luck! |
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Posted: 10/2/2007 4:59:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Id go with something that would transfer over to the civilian world personally. Yeah its badass to jump out of planes or drive around in an M1, but those skills dont exactly translate over to the job market when you get out.
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Posted: 10/2/2007 5:07:13 PM EDT
[#25]
If you go in as a combat engineer, you should be able to get an assignment with an airborne unit. All engineers in the 82nd ABN, for example, jump.
Engineers also get to play with C4 a lot - which can be fun in its own right. |
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Posted: 10/2/2007 10:08:12 PM EDT
[#26]
+1, Ride into battle |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 1:21:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Not worried about that, I am 37, This will be my carreer Travis |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 1:59:41 PM EDT
[#28]
Aviation, ride into battle.........above the dust, not in it.
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Posted: 10/3/2007 4:23:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2007 5:00:43 PM EDT
[#30]
The whole Army does PT. An infantry guy will ruck a whole lot more, but I don't quite see where you're going with the insinuation that the Army has jobs where people sit at a desk all day and don't do PT. We have a word for those jobs - "civilian." If a 30 year old couldn't handle the runs in basic training, it is because he let himself get out of shape. |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 5:33:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2007 5:39:50 PM EDT
[#32]
The attitude towards PT comes from the leadership of the unit, not from the mission of the unit. PT scores don’t vary based off MOS.
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Posted: 10/3/2007 5:49:38 PM EDT
[#33]
Even staff pukes have to take PT tests, go to the field, etc. When at work, they are running back and forth delivering, picking up, chasing signatures, going to meetings, etc. Even staff shops shut down for Sergeants time, and rarely is a junior staff puke exempt from the duty roster. As just said above, the approach to PT is also not MOS-dependent. I have never been in a unit where people didn't get up and PT in the morning. You might get lucky and get a sham job at one duty station, especially at higher ecehlons, but I find it hard to believe your "luck" would last. |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 5:56:19 PM EDT
[#34]
I agree 100 percent with you. Your unit can raise the minumn score to pass the PT test over the Army 180 though. My whole point is that there is a whole lot easier ways to make a career out of the army than in combat arms. Once you are in combat arms it is a shortage MOS and you wont be able to tranfer out. I was told 19k was shortage but I could tranfer to 11b 11m 19d. I just wont the guy to know that once you get in your pretty much stuck barring an injury that stops you from performing your job. I wish the guy well with his descion. |
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Posted: 10/3/2007 6:05:20 PM EDT
[#35]
Exactly. I’ve been in the old Cobra Attack units where we did PT 3X a week. And I’ve been in Armored CAV units where we did PT 5X a week. And I’m sure there’s units that fall in-between. But, I’ve never seen a unit that did no PT. When we did a Squadron run it was every man present....... from cook to cannon cocker.
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Posted: 10/3/2007 7:30:16 PM EDT
[#36]
The year I spent at Fort Bragg with the Flippers (the Chinook unit there) we did PT 5 times a week.
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Posted: 10/4/2007 5:26:22 PM EDT
[#37]
There are definitely units that don't do PT. Or rather, they give their people time off to do personal PT in the gym, etc. They usually can't pass a PT test, but somehow manage to stay in the army for years and years. Say what you will, but the pencil whip is often mightier than the sword. Not saying I agree with it at all (I was combat arms, FWIW), just saying that they do exist. These same people often take a sadistic pleasure in fucking with a regular working joe's paperwork, pay, chow, supplies, or other logistical/administrative lifeblood. Basically what I'm saying is FUCK POGUES. Oh, and don't be an MP. Whatever you do. That's twice it's been said. Trust us. |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 5:34:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Make that three times. Just say no to being an MP. (Or just say no to the MPs). |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 5:56:14 PM EDT
[#39]
We had some kids volunteer to become MPs for a year tour in Germany. I haven't heard how that deal turned out yet.
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Posted: 10/4/2007 5:57:03 PM EDT
[#40]
well....13F has been good to me. as far as day to day excitement on post goes I've had my fair share of "really shitty days being a detail bitch for pog ass fat bastards". but on the other hand i also got to spend alot of time kicking in doors and tagging those same shit bags with paint balls or miles gear, and throwing them down and cuffing them up
 .on a serious note it was really good training that has been paying off. as far as other jobs go, the sapper guys I've worked with were cool and had lots of fun. might also look into EOD. if i was going to re class it would be one of those. worked with both and both seem to be on par with what i do now as far as being fulfilling and personally rewarding paths. but i do love my job. even when it sucks. forgot to mention i do run and ruck till i puke pretty regularly... ahead of or right with the younger guys, but it still hurts at times. gotta be sure that you really want to push yourself hard like that. my peers are all younger ( i'm almost 33) and the next oldest is 25. when this older than dirt guy shows up they ofcourse had doubts. when i got out of AIT i HAD to prove i could keep up, they need to have complete faith in me being able to be there for them. now that we are over here, it all makes sense. it was alot of hurt but its worth it. |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 6:00:32 PM EDT
[#41]
Radar Repair, or Aviaonics (?) Repair. Then get out after 4 years and make FAT bank working for Lockheed Martin, or Boeing. Or EOD, that would be ULTRA badass, too bad my state has next to no positions. |
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Posted: 10/4/2007 9:25:38 PM EDT
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The 'Aero Scout' MOS no longer exists, though... So you watch the battle from the airfield & wait to fix what the pilots broke... Some aviation units use their MOTOR POOL folks for door gunners, denying even the 'crew chief' MOSes flight time.... |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 1:13:47 PM EDT
[#43]
96R Pretty cool job when your deployed, or training. If you get a shadow unit you can go airborne also. Take a look, its gonna expand a lot very soon if it has not already. That is if your open to other ideas other than combat arms.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 1:29:10 PM EDT
[#44]
Yep, 67V no longer exists.......but there's still Blackhawk Crew Chiefs right?
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Posted: 10/5/2007 3:52:56 PM EDT
[#45]
If your enlisted Chinook FE is where its at, FE is required to fly. Crew chiefs are nice but not required. You don't have to do the hunchback routine either, I can stand up and walk around
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Posted: 10/5/2007 4:00:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Yeah, but sometimes pilots find ways to fuck with 'em .www.leenks.com/media1019.htm |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 4:12:04 PM EDT
[#47]
Are you prior service? |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 4:30:12 PM EDT
[#48]
I seriously could be fooled by a lot of the crap I see that passes for PT around here. When your slowest agr group passes by formations like they were going warp nine there is something wrong. You never see 11Bs wandering around a track in groups talking. Sham ass profiles don't fly in an infantry company. It shows when we do Battalion or Brigade runs. No combat arms guys are flopping around on the road saying they are dying from running at some slow ass pace. It's freaking sad. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 5:07:50 PM EDT
[#49]
You forget where we’re at. 
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Posted: 10/5/2007 5:52:27 PM EDT
[#50]
No, I am saying in our battalion we have combat engineers, infantry, tankers and we have a support company. So when we go on a battalion run or brigade run you get the whole mixed bag. You run past guys flopping around weeping on the ground on these stupid slow runs. I have no idea where these guys come from, but I do know one thing. Our company does not contribute to the soldiers that litter the sidewalks and gutters during these runs. I guess what I was shooting at is that I see people that can't hack the bare minimum and it's confusing. It's like they don't do PT, which is what I was commenting on. |
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