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Posted: 6/20/2017 8:25:23 PM EST
How far do you think the CIA got with MKUltra back in the 50's and 60's? Do you think that they were able to make manchurian assassins?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:31:34 PM EST
Apparently they had a difficult time controlling them.

The Unabomber, for example.

If they were successful, who, outside of the intelligence agencies, would know?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:40:21 PM EST
Operation Paperclip
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:46:19 PM EST
Uh....maybe....




Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:47:52 PM EST
OST
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:49:33 PM EST
Derren Brown made a 'candidate' in 2011

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Link Posted: 6/20/2017 8:51:43 PM EST
Well,I for one am glad the gov stopped doing the experiments back in the 50' and 60's............
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:14:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By carguym14:
Well,I for one am glad the gov stopped doing the experiments back in the 50' and 60's............
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The gov't thanks you for that belief.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:15:54 PM EST
Sub-zero is my favorite MK Ultra character.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:18:01 PM EST
Fascinating stuff. As was mentioned, Ol' Ted was severely fucked up because of it. I'm sure there were many more we'll never know of.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:23:22 PM EST
I just dropped in to suggest the book Acid Dreams. It's a great read and a good start down the rabbit hole. 
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:25:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Operation Paperclip
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What?
Wasn't operation paper clip the OSS's plan to bring captured Nazi scientist to America to work on their fledgling rocket power project? What does that have to do with MK ultra?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:28:21 PM EST
Tag.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:31:27 PM EST
Triggered.................awaiting further instructions...........
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:35:25 PM EST
Wokeness level: 87%

Awaiting further activation
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:36:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By vm1970:

What?
Wasn't operation paper clip the OSS's plan to bring captured Nazi scientist to America to work on their fledgling rocket power project? What does that have to do with MK ultra?
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So all nazi scientists that the US brought over were rocket scientists..........

Science is a broad brush......rocket science is sort of a small niche within "science."

Not saying I know anything here, but logically.....would the US govt really not bring a brilliant scientist over regardless of discipline........just because they aren't working on rockets?

Also....hard to hide a rocket, especially at that time.  Lots easier to hide less........streaking though the sky visible........scientific endeavors.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:42:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
So all nazi scientists that the US brought over were rocket scientists..........

Science is a broad brush......rocket science is sort of a small niche within "science."

Not saying I know anything here, but logically.....would the US govt really not bring a brilliant scientist over regardless of discipline........just because they aren't working on rockets?

Also....hard to hide a rocket, especially at that time.  Lots easier to hide less........streaking though the sky visible........scientific endeavors.
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I urge people to look at the deal struck with the members of unit 731 and know that fla556guy is wise indeed. 
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:45:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123:

I urge people to look at the deal struck with the members of unit 731 and know that fla556guy is wise indeed. 
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Info swap for clemency IIRC.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:45:56 PM EST
It ultimately resulted in the Grateful Dead
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:52:41 PM EST
coffee milk lettuce bacon movie teacup rose Orion hammer grill pinetree fall carousel cheesecake Ford telescope repairman
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 9:56:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123:

I urge people to look at the deal struck with the members of unit 731 and know that fla556guy is wise indeed. 
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Nazis were also performing similar experiments. A LOT of their soldiers were fueled by meth. Several scientists were imported for that work.

MK Ultra was (is?) a crazy, crazy deal. The shit they did to unsespecting soldiers and even whole towns of civilians is Grade A disturbing.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:08:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By simplemitch:


Nazis were also performing similar experiments. A LOT of their soldiers were fueled by meth. Several scientists were imported for that work.

MK Ultra was (is?) a crazy, crazy deal. The shit they did to unsespecting soldiers and even whole towns of civilians is Grade A disturbing.
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The amount of political leverage those guys had was terrifying. Blackmail files on high ranking politicians ensured funding and lack of oversight.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:13:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:


The amount of political leverage those guys had was terrifying. Blackmail files on high ranking politicians ensured funding and lack of oversight.
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A life lesson indeed.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:17:17 PM EST
I am not certain about MKUltra but Remote Viewing is real.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:18:12 PM EST
mccain almost made it to the white house.

I'd rather have had a Chinese communist robot than obama though.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:20:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By vm1970:

What?
Wasn't operation paper clip the OSS's plan to bring captured Nazi scientist to America to work on their fledgling rocket power project? What does that have to do with MK ultra?
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Don't believe everything you read . They brought more than rocket scientist over.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:21:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RedDane:
I am not certain about MKUltra but Remote Viewing is real.
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We have Remote Viewing Meetings every Thursday night.

The good thing about it is that everyone gets to stay home.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:24:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Swampgrass:
Tag.
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LOL! Your avatar with "Tag" under it.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:25:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By uxb:
We have Remote Viewing Meetings every Thursday night.

The good thing about it is that everyone gets to stay home.
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Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By RedDane:
I am not certain about MKUltra but Remote Viewing is real.
We have Remote Viewing Meetings every Thursday night.

The good thing about it is that everyone gets to stay home.
I said hello to you last Thursday and got no response. Your viewer must be broken.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:29:55 PM EST
I saw a documentary on this weird facility they had where they had a portal that went to some strange dimension and you could only communicate through lights on the wall. They also experimented on kids with telekinesis.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:30:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sixnine:
LOL! Your avatar with "Tag" under it.
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Originally Posted By Swampgrass:
Tag.
LOL! Your avatar with "Tag" under it.
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Link Posted: 6/20/2017 10:31:14 PM EST
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I don't see how LSD could be used to brainwash someone into becoming a controlled assassin or covert operative.  "That's not like my thing, maaan, we're all one!"

If you could spray it onto their skin like a chemical weapon to make them useless as a soldier? yes.  If you wanted to incapacitate and not kill some soldiers for 12 hours, LSD, if you could get it into their system, would do it.

Link Posted: 6/20/2017 11:08:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RedDane:
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StarGate Project...
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 11:14:59 PM EST
Multiple Personality Disorder is a verified phenomenon.

The question is can it be reliably/repeatably induced in various individual subjects, and can it be managed/controlled via prompt.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 11:15:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By uxb:
We have Remote Viewing Meetings every Thursday night.

The good thing about it is that everyone gets to stay home.
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Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By RedDane:
I am not certain about MKUltra but Remote Viewing is real.
We have Remote Viewing Meetings every Thursday night.

The good thing about it is that everyone gets to stay home.
Just wait until you get to kill a goat.
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 11:16:41 PM EST
What makes you think they stopped?
Link Posted: 6/20/2017 11:35:35 PM EST
And miles to go before I sleep...
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 8:15:36 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SamuelAdams1776:
And miles to go before I sleep...
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Telefon.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 8:29:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Osirus23:
Sub-zero is my favorite MK Ultra character.
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Lol

+1 for you
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 9:30:06 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/21/2017 9:30:55 AM EST by Cucumbermonkey]
Im not really sure how possible it is to control somebody's mind. Ive been in trance like states where I realized I was extremely open to suggestion and you still couldnt have got me to assassinate somebody. It was just things like me and a friend were outside and everything was well. He made a comment like "man it's really bright out" and I sort of heard him, but when his comment registered it was like it got 5x brighter out. I understood what happened and what was going on so I told myself to stop smoking and quit biting my nails.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 9:49:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Cucumbermonkey:
Im not really sure how possible it is to control somebody's mind. Ive been in trance like states where I realized I was extremely open to suggestion and you still couldnt have got me to assassinate somebody. It was just things like me and a friend were outside and everything was well. He made a comment like "man it's really bright out" and I sort of heard him, but when his comment registered it was like it got 5x brighter out. I understood what happened and what was going on so I told myself to stop smoking and quit biting my nails.
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That was probably very similar to a drug and deprivation induced psychotic break. So I can see how your experiences with this sort of state would make you somewhat of an expert.

















Link Posted: 6/21/2017 9:57:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BillythePoet:


The amount of political leverage those guys had was terrifying. Blackmail files on high ranking politicians ensured funding and lack of oversight.
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Indeed. With what we've learned about the Clintons and their buddy Epstein (and the lack of integrity of our FBI and CIA) it's certainly not a long leap of logic to believe some of the conspiracy theories surmising that the CIA is still involved in grotesquely shady shit like running child sex trafficking rings in order to blackmail political leaders as well as provide copius funding for illicit operations.

I don't buy into a lot of shit, but there's some compelling evidence on that one. The fact that we even have to pause to consider whether it could be true is a dismal proposition.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:05:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By simplemitch:


Nazis were also performing similar experiments. A LOT of their soldiers were fueled by meth. Several scientists were imported for that work.

MK Ultra was (is?) a crazy, crazy deal. The shit they did to unsespecting soldiers and even whole towns of civilians is Grade A disturbing.
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Any more info on this? Would like to read up on it.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:05:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By raven:
I don't see how LSD could be used to brainwash someone into becoming a controlled assassin or covert operative.  "That's not like my thing, maaan, we're all one!"

If you could spray it onto their skin like a chemical weapon to make them useless as a soldier? yes.  If you wanted to incapacitate and not kill some soldiers for 12 hours, LSD, if you could get it into their system, would do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rWnQphPdQ
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Like this?
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:09:03 AM EST
Tons of additional MK-Ultra stuff was discussed in the Pizzagate thread.  Disturbing to say the least. 
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:11:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
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Yup enough to send any one into a rage..

Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:13:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/21/2017 10:13:56 AM EST by tsg68]
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Originally Posted By SamuelAdams1776:
And miles to go before I sleep...
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Russian sleepers, right?
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:14:26 AM EST
Frank Olson.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:24:39 AM EST
I had an inmate once who was pretty adamant that he was involved in the MKUltra stuff.
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:25:07 AM EST
I be the truth on a lot of this stuff would scare the shit out of us
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 10:32:57 AM EST
I can neither confirm nor deny....
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