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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:17:53 PM EDT
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Our scouts use M-4s and the scout snipers use M-24(AKA Remington 700).
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:24:04 PM EDT
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Yeah cause why in God's name would you use a USGI M14 if you had access to a civilian manufactured halfass clone of questionable quality...
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:25:37 PM EDT
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I though you were talking Boy Scouts at first and was going to get happy that they finally did away with the crappy .22's. |
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:25:50 PM EDT
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How is an M24 different than a stock Remington 700?
Ummm...... Sorry for the hijack. 
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:25:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Seen pics of the funny M14 with the collapsable stock and rails in use.
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:27:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Whatsa matta? You don't like Springfield "Amrory" What's not to like with (recent) poor QC and cast recievers from Taiwan? 
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:27:23 PM EDT
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Barrel, stock and I imagine the action is trued. |
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:42:35 PM EDT
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700 in .308 is short action, M24 is long action. M24 uses a full 1" nominal profiled barrel 24" long, originally by Mike Rock with a 1:11.25 5R rifling. Trigger is adjustable (without disassembly). Stock is the HS Precision PST05A adjustable for LOP. Redfield Palma rear sight and International globe front with inserts. So, pretty much everything.  ETA: The HSLD cheekpiece is not included in the deployment kit. |
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Posted: 2/13/2006 5:45:01 PM EDT
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Thanks FREE, that's what I was familiar with, but this guy is insistent. |
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Posted: 2/13/2006 6:07:30 PM EDT
[#10]
so what is the reason for using a long action for the 7.62 instead of the standard short action?
im an armorer and do a lil smithing on the side and the guys have been asking me to put together something as close to possible as a 24 so they can do some shooting on the weekends. and i want a 24 myself, but rems distributer they pawned me off on wanted 8500 for it and i told em to fuck off. |
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Posted: 2/13/2006 6:13:22 PM EDT
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Probably as much as USSOCOM folks use the Ace SOCOM stock
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Posted: 2/13/2006 6:33:17 PM EDT
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From my understanding, so they can switch the barrel over to a 300 win mag. Meaning, more options for the sniper platform. |
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Posted: 2/13/2006 6:46:41 PM EDT
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The lead up to the SWS Competition was handled by the SOF types and members of the AMU IIRC. The SOF guys wanted to be able to switch the rifles over to .300WinMag. So Remington based their entry for the SWS on the long action to allow for this. The short action would not allow this, and with the long action the barrel and bolt can be switched out on the receiver. You should be able to build one using a blank barrel from Boots Obermeyer (he developed the rifling) or Mike Rock. He got screwed by Remington from what I understand; he came up with the barrel for Rem and then Rem took the barrel manufacturing inhouse. The taper is 1.2 to .9 breech to muzzle. Get a long action 700, the barrel, and an adjustable trigger. The M24 version is adjustable through a screw in the face of the trigger. Get the HS Precision stock, and you're pretty much there. Finding the Redfield sights is going to be pretty much impossible, as Redfield went out of business and the sights have nto been made for several years. The PSS is going to be pretty close, but still different. ETA: The original rifle with depolyment kit was along the lines of $2500-3500 unit cost to the .gov. 8 large is robbery. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 1:46:35 PM EDT
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well, that explains that, now i know, thanx
now to find a long action, to bad brownells only seems to have shorts. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 2:05:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2006 2:07:12 PM EDT
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No he just came from the gunstore and thats what the guy told him, or he stayed at a holiday inn last night |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 4:54:32 PM EDT
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Man, hell no... if the Springfield Armory Inc. rifles were in the field, the company would go broke trying to keep up with all the broken parts.
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Posted: 2/18/2006 5:21:18 PM EDT
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These people are teh rUl3 on the X-Box, but they know nothing about real life. There's no way the military would buy any cast part crap rifle from Springfield Armory Inc. for a soldier. The ONLY reason they use the old M14s is because they already bought them (40 years ago), so it doesn't cost them anything to get one. -Troy |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 7:36:16 PM EDT
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Find a Rem 700 in .30/06 you'll have the right bolt face in a long action. Then buy the right stock and rebarrel it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 8:33:40 PM EDT
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unfortunatly that means i'll have ta pay for a whole rifle, and than buy a barrel and a new bolt.
will the 308 bolt fit the long action? im really not up on bolt guns all that much wonder if cabellas still has the low price on the 700sps o well |
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Posted: 2/18/2006 10:49:26 PM EDT
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Why not just build it off the short action? Not a clone...but a better weapon....
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Posted: 2/19/2006 5:32:31 AM EDT
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mainly because im trying to get it as close as possible, i allready have a sps in .308, its an awesome rifle, i guess i just got a wild ambition to have my own m24 for the most part (without geting raped by rems distributor)
its all a moot point at this time anyhow as im goin through a divorce again( ie im broke). what the hell is wrong with women these days. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 5:35:18 AM EDT
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Damnit. I just spit coffee all over my morning reports. That's some funny stuff. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 5:42:21 AM EDT
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Some of the Infantry types I have talked with aren't happy with the long action decision.
I think the USMC M40s went short action. The gun is heavier than a dead priest already. Some units have been using the win mag, but almost everybody uses 7.62. |
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Posted: 2/19/2006 5:52:52 AM EDT
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the lack of the use of win mag could be due to the fact that the vast majority of us, ( i include myself as a pretty highspeed armorer) didn't even realize that win mag was an option for the platform. Everything we see about it only refers to the 7.62.
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Posted: 2/19/2006 8:52:51 AM EDT
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It's in the Army Sniper Training and Employment manual!  Seriously though. I can't imagine why they did it. You have to swap the bolt and barrel to change calibers....might as well just order a new rifle. |
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