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Posted: 6/14/2014 6:35:04 PM EDT
Does anyone know if this has actually gone to court, or is it just an ATF opinion?
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:38:29 PM EDT
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Lulz.
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:40:17 PM EDT
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Yeeks.  Haven't heard anything about those bits.
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:41:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:41:09 PM EDT
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FWIW, the bushmaster assault rifle used M16 internals.

Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:41:14 PM EDT
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did they file the secret pin down too?
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:41:40 PM EDT
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No issue, unless it goes select then its nothing but gaping.
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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:42:59 PM EDT
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check the retro forum this is talked about a lot

many of the kits have M16 FCG less the auto sear

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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 6:47:46 PM EDT
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The selector rotated, but it was just a lower and wasn't drilled. Those were the only 2 parts.
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:02:33 PM EDT
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The selector rotated, but it was just a lower and wasn't drilled. Those were the only 2 parts.
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No issue, unless it goes select then its nothing but gaping.

The selector rotated, but it was just a lower and wasn't drilled. Those were the only 2 parts.


Set up for DIAS?




And I'd the ATF gets takes it.to the lab they could run it with light primers and try to get a hammer follow and call it a machine gun.
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:04:17 PM EDT
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I would ask a manufacturer in the industry section.
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And I'd the ATF gets takes it.to the lab they could run it with light primers and try to get a hammer follow and call it a machine gun.
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No issue, unless it goes select then its nothing but gaping.

The selector rotated, but it was just a lower and wasn't drilled. Those were the only 2 parts.


Set up for DIAS?




And I'd the ATF gets takes it.to the lab they could run it with light primers and try to get a hammer follow and call it a machine gun.
Nope. The ATF already has it, and a pistol upper,  that wasn't attached,  and a stock that wasn't attached.  Pos of MG charge already happened.  I'm just curious as to whether there's a precedent or if it's just an ATF interpretation.
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Nope. The ATF already has it, and a pistol upper,  that wasn't attached,  and a stock that wasn't attached.  Pos of MG charge already happened.  I'm just curious as to whether there's a precedent or if it's just an ATF interpretation.
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No issue, unless it goes select then its nothing but gaping.

The selector rotated, but it was just a lower and wasn't drilled. Those were the only 2 parts.


Set up for DIAS?




And I'd the ATF gets takes it.to the lab they could run it with light primers and try to get a hammer follow and call it a machine gun.
Nope. The ATF already has it, and a pistol upper,  that wasn't attached,  and a stock that wasn't attached.  Pos of MG charge already happened.  I'm just curious as to whether there's a precedent or if it's just an ATF interpretation.



Technical violation.  M16 fcg in an AR lower can be pushed to "auto" if fired you can get a hammer follow. With poorly seated primers or light primers it will follow fire, thus more than one round with one trigger pull.  

Which means it is illegal for me to borrow my buddies lower even without the DIAS in it.
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:21:02 PM EDT
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They will use federal commercial .223 ammo and that set up may run off 2-30 rounds at a time. That is a bad set up based in whatB2B I have seen in court cases.

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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:23:38 PM EDT
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Well hell. Hopefully the lawyer can work some magic. Stupid mistake, but going to jail over it wouldn't do anyone any good.  

This has nothing to do with me,  for the record.
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We had a teacher get busted here awhile back for running a prostitution ring.  That was one of her charges.
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Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:42:22 PM EDT
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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/A23_zps8f0dbb49.jpg</a>" />
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This is confusing.  
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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/A23_zps8f0dbb49.jpg</a>" />
http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/DSCN1338.jpg</a>" />


Here is what has to be modified.

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ok,  so to be legal the red had to be milled off?
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:50:34 PM EDT
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Look above at the pic of the difference between FCG's between an AR and an M16.

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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/A23_zps8f0dbb49.jpg</a>" />
http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/DSCN1338.jpg</a>" />

This is confusing.  

Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:51:55 PM EDT
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Well hell. Hopefully the lawyer can work some magic. Stupid mistake, but going to jail over it wouldn't do anyone any good.  

This has nothing to do with me,  for the record.
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Well hell. Hopefully the lawyer can work some magic. Stupid mistake, but going to jail over it wouldn't do anyone any good.  

This has nothing to do with me,  for the record.



that guy in benton?
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 7:53:12 PM EDT
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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/A23_zps8f0dbb49.jpg</a>" />
http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/DSCN1338.jpg</a>" />


Here is what has to be modified.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/FA-SA-FCG_zpsc69d79a3.jpg</a>" />
ok,  so to be legal the red had to be milled off?


I thought you made this stuff?  Maybe you should as your production guys.
Link Posted: 6/14/2014 8:12:38 PM EDT
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Correct, remove the red portion and now parts are semi auto.


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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/A23_zps8f0dbb49.jpg</a>" />
http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/DSCN1338.jpg</a>" />


Here is what has to be modified.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/FA-SA-FCG_zpsc69d79a3.jpg</a>" />
ok,  so to be legal the red had to be milled off?

Link Posted: 6/14/2014 8:21:16 PM EDT
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M16A1 FCG in my A2.  A few years ago APEX gun parts had these FCG's for $45 to include the auto sear and pin.  I had the parts modified to semi auto and sold off the auto sear.

Edit:  These were great parts for installing in Retro rifles because the parts were a grey parkerized color and not black for that "authentic" look.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/A23_zps8f0dbb49.jpg</a>" />
http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/DSCN1338.jpg</a>" />


Here is what has to be modified.

http://<a href=http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii217/cda97/FA-SA-FCG_zpsc69d79a3.jpg</a>" />
ok,  so to be legal the red had to be milled off?


I know people that thought the M16 hammer trigger gave a better feel....

Cut the hook off the tail of the hammer & the extended part of the disconector..

The ran regular AR safety's......IIRC, you have to add material to the M16 selector, so it won't rotate into the 3 position............

Link Posted: 6/14/2014 8:24:18 PM EDT
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.
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I know I have an M16 hammer in one of my lowers. It's nothing but a heavier semi hammer with nothing else in there that could make it go F/A.
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And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........
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Not mine.  I know not to give them an opening.  But then,  they actually can come inspect my stuff.
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And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.



And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........


I didn't say they wouldn't lie cheat and steal to make you a criminal.  I just said you aint shooting full auto without a third pin (internal or external).
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And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.



And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........


With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?
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Not mine.  I know not to give them an opening.  But then,  they actually can come inspect my stuff.
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.

Not mine.  I know not to give them an opening.  But then,  they actually can come inspect my stuff.


Just remembered you are an FFL.  I'll shut up and listen now
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With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.



And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........


With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?


All he had, IIRC, was an M16 selector......... It's simple... Free floating firing pin & light enough primers.......equal......

Slam fire...... There are some small rifle primers that shouldn't be used in a AR........
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.

Not mine.  I know not to give them an opening.  But then,  they actually can come inspect my stuff.


Just remembered you are an FFL.  I'll shut up and listen now

I'm not an SOT, this stuff is out of my lane. Obviously
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All he had, IIRC, was an M16 selector......... It's simple... Free floating firing pin & light enough primers.......equal......

Slam fire...... There are some small rifle primers that shouldn't be used in a AR........
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.



And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........


With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?


All he had, IIRC, was an M16 selector......... It's simple... Free floating firing pin & light enough primers.......equal......

Slam fire...... There are some small rifle primers that shouldn't be used in a AR........

The wiki page said the borrower claimed that the owner knew it would burst, bit jam.
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.



And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........


With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?


All he had, IIRC, was an M16 selector......... It's simple... Free floating firing pin & light enough primers.......equal......

Slam fire...... There are some small rifle primers that shouldn't be used in a AR........

The wiki page said the borrower claimed that the owner knew it would burst, bit jam.


The problem was a M16 selector & a Rifle that would double sometimes..... IIRC, the first time they tested it it wouldn't......

Then they got some ammo with light primers & got it to........ If he had taken it to a gunsmith, it would have been a broken Rifle....

Play stupid games & win stupid prizes.....
 
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The problem was a M16 selector & a Rifle that would double sometimes..... IIRC, the first time they tested it it wouldn't......

Then they got some ammo with light primers & got it to........ If he had taken it to a gunsmith, it would have been a broken Rifle....

Play stupid games & win stupid prizes.....
 
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Oh I agreed they went over the line,  but I don't think the owner made a lot of smart moves.
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With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?
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I'm no legal type, but there's no way they could test your weapon and find you had a machinegun.  Without the third pin (or DIAS) it's just another semi with a selector switch that moves a little more.



And yet they tested one without an auto sear using light primers & got it to fire more than once with one pull of the trigger......

That guy went to pound him in da azz prison over it...........


With nothing but an M16 hammer and selector? How is that even mechanically possible? How would you get hammer follow if everything else is installed correctly?


Yep.

Hey OP.  Is it ONLY hammer and selector?  If it had AR15 trigger and disco (most importantly the AR15 disco) then it cannot have hammer follow down, and should not be able to go "full typewriter".   Still don't know about any other tech branch shenanigans, but light primers won't do it in this case.

Did it have ALL M16 fire control, or JUST hammer & selector?
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The problem was a M16 selector & a Rifle that would double sometimes..... IIRC, the first time they tested it it wouldn't......

Then they got some ammo with light primers & got it to........ If he had taken it to a gunsmith, it would have been a broken Rifle....

Play stupid games & win stupid prizes.....
 

Oh I agreed they went over the line,  but I don't think the owner made a lot of smart moves.


Not smart enough to be a manufacturer?
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Yep.

Hey OP.  Is it ONLY hammer and selector?  If it had AR15 trigger and disco (most importantly the AR15 disco) then it cannot have hammer follow down, and should not be able to go "full typewriter".   Still don't know about any other tech branch shenanigans, but light primers won't do it in this case.

Did it have ALL M16 fire control, or JUST hammer & selector?
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I was told that it was only those two parts.
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The problem was a M16 selector & a Rifle that would double sometimes..... IIRC, the first time they tested it it wouldn't......

Then they got some ammo with light primers & got it to........ If he had taken it to a gunsmith, it would have been a broken Rifle....

Play stupid games & win stupid prizes.....
 

Oh I agreed they went over the line,  but I don't think the owner made a lot of smart moves.


Where is Bladerunner?  Does arfcom not allow MG felons back?  It says he only did 30 months, and this was five years ago.

Maybe he can't be on gun boards?
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Where is Bladerunner?  Does arfcom not allow MG felons back?  It says he only did 30 months, and this was five years ago.

Maybe he can't be on gun boards?
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He posted the story back in the day but I don't know if it was before or after prison, I thought it was after.

If i had a rifle that had doubled on me,  the only person getting it after that would be a gunsmith that knows more shout fa than I do.
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He posted the story back in the day but I don't know if it was before or after prison, I thought it was after.

If i had a rifle that had doubled on me,  the only person getting it after that would be a gunsmith that knows more shout fa than I do.
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Where is Bladerunner?  Does arfcom not allow MG felons back?  It says he only did 30 months, and this was five years ago.

Maybe he can't be on gun boards?

He posted the story back in the day but I don't know if it was before or after prison, I thought it was after.

If i had a rifle that had doubled on me,  the only person getting it after that would be a gunsmith that knows more shout fa than I do.



I would pull the whole lower apart, give it a new lpk, test with a second upper, then test with the first upper.  Old lpk goes in the trash. Even buying a new high end trigger and parts kit is cheaper than consulting with a lawyer.
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