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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:48:06 AM EDT
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 If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:48:29 AM EDT
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"who are willing to give back to their community by serving their time."
That's rich. The guy didn't resolve not to go back there, just make conditions better for the next time. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:50:36 AM EDT
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Be great if some of them are in there for stealing AC units
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:50:48 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:55:26 AM EDT
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I bet they will get it too.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 3:57:32 AM EDT
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I didn't look at OP's state, but the article title, yep, it's got to be hot as fuck and humid to boot. Fuck 'em, they're prisoners. Want the comforts of modern living? Don't do the crime, get a job and live decently. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:00:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:02:12 AM EDT
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I bet they will get it too. I bet the guards want A/C too. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:06:22 AM EDT
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To the prisoners
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:12:47 AM EDT
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While all the working men of the world endure baking in the sun & feezings temps to earn an honest living ................
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:27:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. this is something I don't really agree with as well. Un-convicted people getting shitty prison time that is. I think there should be a separate holding area for people who are very high flight risks, but who haven't been convicted yet, so we don't treat the not-yet-criminals the same as criminals. but convicted criminals shouldn't be given luxuries.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:27:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. He had been there 5 times |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:30:14 AM EDT
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I guarantee you that there are poor law abiding citizens who live without Air Conditioning in Louisiana.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:30:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'm sure a lot of guys have been in and out of the jail a bunch of times, that doesn't change the fact that if you are arrested tonight and can't make bail you will sit in some jail for up to a year.Quoted: Quoted: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. He had been there 5 times I think your argument makes more sense for prison v. jail. Wait til they have some fat old people have heart attacks in some jail in the south and some Federal judge decides to get involved. No good comes of that.You know I'm not sure I've been in a correctional facility that had AC. Some are attached to a larger municipal building (ie like courts or the Sheriff's offices) that does have it but I don't know that the jail part does |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 4:48:42 AM EDT
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Our jail has AC. It also has sealed windows. We keep it comfortable but don't exactly worry about adjusting the thermostat too much. It's a wee bit warm in the summer and a bit cool in the winter, oh well. It's better than the conditions most of our inmate population experiences at home. Our old jail didn't have AC and we spent a lot of time and money on ice and trips to the hospital during the summer when the ranges got over 100. The new jail also lets us lock the little buggers up at night and keep track of their movements. I've heard many inmates complain that they liked the old one more because they had more freedom of movement. My point is inmates will bitch about something no matter what you do. They'll also destroy anything they can.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:47:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2011 6:20:41 AM EDT
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That's pretty nice..."every cell has a flatscreen TV and mini fridge"... ...hell that's nicer than most college dorms  IIRC, it was Time Magazine that did a big expose' on the minimum security Federal prisons back in the early 90's; some had 9 hole golf course and olympic sized indoor swimming pools The Fed caught so much flack over it that they filled in the swimming pools and turned them into racquetball courts and made the golf courses into gardens  Speed |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 6:46:17 AM EDT
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People in hell want ice water
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Posted: 8/11/2011 6:49:28 AM EDT
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A/C is a luxury. Period. It's not some natural tihng we've had since the begining of time. If Iraqis can live without A/C, so can a bunch of prisoners/people awaiting trial. Shit, I lived without A/C in Iraq as a Marine, and you don't see me complaining.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 6:59:57 AM EDT
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110 degrees in a tiny cell crosses over to cruel. I'd break for a used celing fan.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:03:13 AM EDT
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If someone gets arrested for something and they can not make bail they will stay in jail until after the trial, innocent or not. They may very well have NOT committed any crime but they still have to do the time. It's pretty shitty to put an innocent man in jail when the temps are over 100, its not like they can crack open a window or turn on a fan. Having ac is not exactly a huge luxury and doesn't seem all that uncalled for. It may even make up for cost savings by avoiding lawsuits when someone gets a heat related injury.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:03:37 AM EDT
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Boo-fucking-hoo.
It's jail, deal with it. Newsflash! Don't like the conditions in jail, then don't do things that land you in jail. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:04:41 AM EDT
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AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:08:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south. Yeah, that's kinda fucked up. They need to install some sort of AC. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:09:26 AM EDT
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Boo-fucking-hoo. It's jail, deal with it. Newsflash! Don't like the conditions in jail, then don't do things that land you in jail. Newsflash! You can go to jail without committing any crime. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:12:36 AM EDT
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Local reported interviewed Sheriff Joe in one of his tents this summer.
Joe breaks out a temp gun. 146 degrees |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:12:37 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. Let the taxpayer pay for something else, imo. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:14:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south. It helps to live in a house that was built before AC was invented. They are designed for good airflow from natural breezes. Most modern houses pretty much ignore this. My grandmother never had AC her whole life. She just had a few electric fans, and her house wasn't that bad in the summertime. AC is better, though. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:17:46 AM EDT
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AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south. My dorm in college had no A/C. We used fans. 100F days sometimes. We survived. They can cry me a river. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:17:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:18:17 AM EDT
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AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south. It helps to live in a house that was built before AC was invented. They are designed for good airflow from natural breezes. Most modern houses pretty much ignore this. My grandmother never had AC her whole life. She just had a few electric fans, and her house wasn't that bad in the summertime. AC is better, though.
Jails are not designed for airflow. They are designed to keep people inside. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:20:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south. They can handle it. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:22:24 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. Bullshit. If it's not a health threat, let them suck it up. We didn't have A/C many times when I was in the Army, sometimes for months. We survived just fine in temps hotter than that. You know how fucking hot it gets in a buttoned up APC in the summer at Fort Hood with MOPP 4 gear on? 
At least they don't have to put up with ticks and chiggers in addition to the heat like we did. I bet they get regular showers and hot meals too. You saying you think inmates should be treated better than military folk? I think it's complete BS they aren't doing work while they are incarcerated. Here we see the local Sheriff's orange suited brigades on the side of the highway picking up trash all the time. That is the way it should be. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:23:17 AM EDT
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Go ahead and "want" it.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:29:58 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. Bullshit. If it's not a health threat, let them suck it up. We didn't have A/C many times when I was in the Army, sometimes for months. We survived just fine in temps hotter than that. You know how fucking hot it gets in an APC in the summer at Fort Hood with MOPP 4 gear on?
At least they don't have to put up with ticks and chiggers in addition to the heat like we did. I bet they get regular showers and hot food too. You saying you think inmates should be treated better than military folk? He never mentioned military folk. That's a good way to put yourself ahead in a debate though. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:30:41 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. Bullshit. If it's not a health threat, let them suck it up. We didn't have A/C many times when I was in the Army, sometimes for months. We survived just fine in temps hotter than that. You know how fucking hot it gets in an APC in the summer at Fort Hood with MOPP 4 gear on?
At least they don't have to put up with ticks and chiggers in addition to the heat like we did. I bet they get regular showers and hot food too. You saying you think inmates should be treated better than military folk? He never mentioned military folk. That's a good way to put yourself ahead in a debate though. Yeah well I mentioned it. So do you? |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:32:35 AM EDT
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I'm in A-stan, and my AC is broken.
Fuck you inmates. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:33:26 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. Bullshit. If it's not a health threat, let them suck it up. We didn't have A/C many times when I was in the Army, sometimes for months. We survived just fine in temps hotter than that. You know how fucking hot it gets in an APC in the summer at Fort Hood with MOPP 4 gear on?
At least they don't have to put up with ticks and chiggers in addition to the heat like we did. I bet they get regular showers and hot food too. You saying you think inmates should be treated better than military folk? He never mentioned military folk. That's a good way to put yourself ahead in a debate though. Yeah well I mentioned it. So do you? I am stationed at Bragg, in the 82nd and have multiple deployments to Iraq. I am pretty sure I have had it just as bad as you have in the military. Now that we have that down, YES I think the inmates in jail who have NOT been convicted should have ac. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:34:28 AM EDT
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110 degrees in a tiny cell crosses over to cruel. I'd break for a used celing fan. I agree fans should be provided. They provide relief and are cheap to operate. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:35:14 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. Bullshit. If it's not a health threat, let them suck it up. We didn't have A/C many times when I was in the Army, sometimes for months. We survived just fine in temps hotter than that. You know how fucking hot it gets in an APC in the summer at Fort Hood with MOPP 4 gear on?
At least they don't have to put up with ticks and chiggers in addition to the heat like we did. I bet they get regular showers and hot food too. You saying you think inmates should be treated better than military folk? He never mentioned military folk. That's a good way to put yourself ahead in a debate though. Yeah well I mentioned it. So do you? I am stationed at Bragg, in the 82nd and have multiple deployments to Iraq. I am pretty sure I have had it just as bad as you have in the military. Now that we have that down, YES I think the inmates in jail who have NOT been convicted should have ac. I was just wondering if you think inmates should have it better than our military does. I find it surprising you think they do, especially since you have lived through those conditions. I think fans with good airflow would be more than adequate. A/C is not a necessity imo. I'd rather see the money spent on getting A/C in ALL Army and Marine vehicles for servicemen in the line of duty rather than given to inmates. That still far from reality. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:36:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. If they were good at making correct choices they wouldn't be criminals. 
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:36:27 AM EDT
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If you can't do the time then don't do the crime. People often sit in jail awaiting trial and have not been convicted of a crime. As a percentage, those in jail who are not convicted of something are what, about 1%? Maybe 5%? What does "often" mean? As long they are given sufficient water to drink they are in no risk of heat injury. My dormitory in university had no A/C. We had 100F days in August in west Texas (Texas Tech). If I could live without A/C as a poor college student, I am fairly certain inmates could tolerate it, guilty or not. Apples and Oranges. Bullshit. If it's not a health threat, let them suck it up. We didn't have A/C many times when I was in the Army, sometimes for months. We survived just fine in temps hotter than that. You know how fucking hot it gets in an APC in the summer at Fort Hood with MOPP 4 gear on?
At least they don't have to put up with ticks and chiggers in addition to the heat like we did. I bet they get regular showers and hot food too. You saying you think inmates should be treated better than military folk? He never mentioned military folk. That's a good way to put yourself ahead in a debate though. Yeah well I mentioned it. So do you? I am stationed at Bragg, in the 82nd and have multiple deployments to Iraq. I am pretty sure I have had it just as bad as you have in the military. Now that we have that down, YES I think the inmates in jail who have NOT been convicted should have ac. I think fans with good airflow would be adequate. Sounds good to me |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:36:39 AM EDT
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Fuckem. They should be housed in tents.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:37:37 AM EDT
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+1 This is a travesty if it goes through. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:38:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: People in hell want ice water Dad? |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 7:48:13 AM EDT
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The colder it is inside the jail, the more compliant the inmates are. Before my county moved into our new jail we would turn the temp down pretty low. Most of the inmates would complain then get in their bunks and try to keep warm. We had way less fights that way. As a side benefit, they left us jailers alone too.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 8:04:29 AM EDT
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The colder it is inside the jail, the more compliant the inmates are. Before my county moved into our new jail we would turn the temp down pretty low. Most of the inmates would complain then get in their bunks and try to keep warm. We had way less fights that way. As a side benefit, they left us jailers alone too. One workers comp case = pays electric bill for months |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 8:26:39 AM EDT
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At first I was like most people in thinking that inmates should have next to nothing. After working in out new jail where they have tv's and more room to move, I have changed my mind. Everything extra that they get is just another form of control. It's ver similar to teaching a child to behave. Start taking things away until the behavior improves. If it doesn't improve then put them in a small room by themselves with nothing but a blanket and a mat. Then let them shower every three days. They normally become pretty compliant after a week or two.
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Posted: 8/11/2011 8:34:06 AM EDT
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People in hell want ice water Dad? 
Holy shit, I lost. -SS Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 8:38:16 AM EDT
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AC is not a luxury in the deep south. AC is a fucking necessity in the deep south. This. Hell, our jails are kept in the 60s to help prevent disease. |
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