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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:30:03 AM EDT
I was flipping through the radio stations a couple weeks ago, when a name from a local gun store/shooting range called in with more ammo....for the anti-gun side.
Bob, the owner of Classic Pistol in Southampton, PA thought this was a great time to talk about how PA doesn't go far enough in restricting our 2A rights. He is calling for MANDATORY FFL transfers on everything, and MANDATORY training for firearms OWNERS. What a self serving asshole this guy is. I get that these idiots think that they get short term financial gain through MANDATORY transfers and training, but it's just more talk for the anti's when it comes to "reasonable" and "common sense" gun laws. These assholes need to just keep their pie holes shut. 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:31:18 AM EDT
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Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:31:24 AM EDT
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Of course he wants those. Both would require people to do business with him.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:31:24 AM EDT
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LGS gets no more of my business.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:34:14 AM EDT
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Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay. ..this. He would sell out his fellow Americans for a few extra pieces of silver.........Judas. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:39:09 AM EDT
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Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay. ..this. He would sell out his fellow Americans for a few extra pieces of silver.........Judas. Yep, pretty pathetic. He doesn't support us, so why should we support him? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:39:59 AM EDT
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That is a shame! I know Classic Pistol and it is a good place, though I don't know Bob. I don't understand how anyone in the gun community could say that the gun laws in PA should be stricter. Especially right now. WTF Bob!!! I can only imagine that this is driven by shortsightedness hoping to benefit from a few select new laws. You can't have it that way, Bob. You are either with us or against us, Bob!!! Hey Bob, you want to sell us out for your own limited gain or do you have some other, incomprehensible, reason for your actions?
ETA: The only thing I found in a Google search shows Bob taking an opposite stance as what the OP reports was said on the radio. I'm sure some PA guys who go to CP regularly will figure out what was really said to the media in this regard. Here is the recent article in the Philly press, showing how simple even some regular shooters are: http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-17/news/36376237_1_gun-enthusiasts-gun-control-measures-universal-background-checks |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:41:47 AM EDT
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Methinks this might backfire on him.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:43:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:44:07 AM EDT
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Damn.
I'm picking up a stripped lower from them this week.. Well... I'm re-thinking this now... No. I'll still grab it.. then give Bob an earful. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:46:27 AM EDT
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Damn. I'm picking up a stripped lower from them this week.. Well... I'm re-thinking this now... No. I'll still grab it.. then give Bob an earful. that will teach him. go get him tiger! |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:48:28 AM EDT
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"You there! I am a barber, and I do declare it should be illegal to keep ones hair as long as yours!"
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:50:43 AM EDT
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This needs to be posted in the Hometown forum, hopefully douchebag will go belly up. Hope you guys see him in a blue vest at WalMart.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:53:16 AM EDT
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Guess I wont be giving them any more business.
The guys in that shop always came off (to me) as a little 'too good' for the customers. Bob always gave the impression of a 'white collar' kind of gun guy, as opposed to a hard-core 2A shooter. I find it interesting that they are one of the bigger class III dealers locally and yet they prefer that the government restrict things even more. That is pretty disappointing. I've put a lot of lead into their backstops...guess I can plan to take my range ammo elsewhere from now on. Shooting in Bucks County sucks any more...I really miss the old SGL range in Nockamixon. 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:53:44 AM EDT
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The majority of calguns.net feels the same. Sell out the free states so they can feel better about their laws?
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=672158&highlight=background+check |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:53:57 AM EDT
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Damn. I'm picking up a stripped lower from them this week.. Well... I'm re-thinking this now... No. I'll still grab it.. then give Bob an earful. that will teach him. go get him tiger! You wouldn't pass on one at this price in this market right now either... Although, I'll probably feel the need to shower afterward... |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:55:22 AM EDT
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This needs to be posted in the Hometown forum, hopefully douchebag will go belly up. Hope you guys see him in a blue vest at WalMart. Done! |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:56:37 AM EDT
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Quoted: Bob, the owner of Classic Pistol in Southampton, PA thought this was a great time to talk about how PA doesn't go far enough in restricting our 2A rights. He is calling for MANDATORY FFL transfers on everything, and MANDATORY training for firearms OWNERS. Not only this, but he then reappeared on ABC news (local 6 affiliate) and charged that while New Jersey might have too strict of laws, PA is "too lenient". What a self serving asshole this guy is. $$$$$$$$$$$ Money grubbing WHORE. Spread the word locally on that piece of shit, tell everyone you talk to whether they're into guns or not. What other rights can we restrict for him to profit off of? Fuck that motherfucker. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:57:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:02:15 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I was flipping through the radio stations a couple weeks ago, when a name from a local gun store/shooting range called in with more ammo....for the anti-gun side. Bob, the owner of Classic Pistol in Southampton, PA thought this was a great time to talk about how PA doesn't go far enough in restricting our 2A rights. He is calling for MANDATORY FFL transfers on everything, and MANDATORY training for firearms OWNERS. Not only this, but he then reappeared on ABC news (local 6 affiliate) and charged that while New Jersey might have too strict of laws, PA is "too lenient". What a self serving asshole this guy is. I get that these idiots think that they get short term financial gain through MANDATORY transfers and training, but it's just more talk for the anti's when it comes to "reasonable" and "common sense" gun laws. These assholes need to just keep their pie holes shut. Alot FFLs believe in that. I talked to one around here and they said the same thing. FTF takes money away from them, so yea. they are for closing the "gunshow loopholes" and FTF sales. Crackerboys Outdoors in Pinellas Park, Florida. they are the ones that told me that. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:09:13 AM EDT
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Get your own FFL and open up right next door to Judas.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:10:41 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I was flipping through the radio stations a couple weeks ago, when a name from a local gun store/shooting range called in with more ammo....for the anti-gun side. Bob, the owner of Classic Pistol in Southampton, PA thought this was a great time to talk about how PA doesn't go far enough in restricting our 2A rights. He is calling for MANDATORY FFL transfers on everything, and MANDATORY training for firearms OWNERS. Not only this, but he then reappeared on ABC news (local 6 affiliate) and charged that while New Jersey might have too strict of laws, PA is "too lenient". What a self serving asshole this guy is. I get that these idiots think that they get short term financial gain through MANDATORY transfers and training, but it's just more talk for the anti's when it comes to "reasonable" and "common sense" gun laws. These assholes need to just keep their pie holes shut. Guess I'll never shop there. Make sure to post this on PAFOA. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:12:54 AM EDT
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Anyone have a link to the actual article? Or a transcript of the interview?
Before I contact them and explain why I'll be taking my money to their competition down the street, I'd like to see for myself what Bob actually said. I've spent a lot of money at CP over the years. If the allegation in the OP is true, they've seen my last dollar. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:17:05 AM EDT
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If that is the attitude,
I would go out of my way, another town if necessary, if I needed anything gun related. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:19:11 AM EDT
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What a dick!
My LGS, Trop Gun Shop in Elizabethtown PA, refused to attend a local gunshow because they restricted them from displaying any AR15 stuff. They are solidly 2A with no restrictions, and get all my business. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:22:25 AM EDT
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What a dick! My LGS, Trop Gun Shop in Elizabethtown PA, refused to attend a local gunshow because they restricted them from displaying any AR15 stuff. They are solidly 2A with no restrictions, and get all my business. Hi neighbor. Kinsey's just pulled out too. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:22:28 AM EDT
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I was flipping through the radio stations a couple weeks ago, when a name from a local gun store/shooting range called in with more ammo....for the anti-gun side. Bob, the owner of Classic Pistol in Southampton, PA thought this was a great time to talk about how PA doesn't go far enough in restricting our 2A rights. He is calling for MANDATORY FFL transfers on everything, and MANDATORY training for firearms OWNERS. Not only this, but he then reappeared on ABC news (local 6 affiliate) and charged that while New Jersey might have too strict of laws, PA is "too lenient". What a self serving asshole this guy is. I get that these idiots think that they get short term financial gain through MANDATORY transfers and training, but it's just more talk for the anti's when it comes to "reasonable" and "common sense" gun laws. These assholes need to just keep their pie holes shut. What a Fucking Dick. I WILL no longer be using their facilities. I loved it because it was indoor, not too far from Philly compared to driving to Wicens, nice people, fair prices. I guess I will be checking out the new Colisimos which is even closer than Classic Pistol anyway. I will def be contacting them and giving them my .02 cents. Can't wait to join LRGC one day, sigh. ETA: and yes it's obvious he's trying to drum up business. EVERY time I hear a gun shop say they want to enforce background checks on private sales I know immediately they just want to make more $$$, assholes. I hope it backfires and if they close the no BG check on private long arm sales that they only charge $10 or it's even free for non dealers to use  . That would shut up the shop owners from saying the gun show loophole needs to be closed while sticking it to them hahaahaha.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:27:54 AM EDT
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That is a shame! I know Classic Pistol and it is a good place, though I don't know Bob. I don't understand how anyone in the gun community could say that the gun laws in PA should be stricter. Especially right now. WTF Bob!!! I can only imagine that this is driven by shortsightedness hoping to benefit from a few select new laws. You can't have it that way, Bob. You are either with us or against us, Bob!!! Hey Bob, you want to sell us out for your own limited gain or do you have some other, incomprehensible, reason for your actions? ETA: The only thing I found in a Google search shows Bob taking an opposite stance as what the OP reports was said on the radio. I'm sure some PA guys who go to CP regularly will figure out what was really said to the media in this regard. Here is the recent article in the Philly press, showing how simple even some regular shooters are: http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-17/news/36376237_1_gun-enthusiasts-gun-control-measures-universal-background-checks Some quotes from the article. Another cool Oriental guy is quoted also, said he had 5 guns in his trunk. "You're going to find this is not a liberal establishment," owner Bob Kostaras warned a reporter who had dropped by to chat with gun enthusiasts. "I don't think most of my customers voted for Obama." ----------- "There are 22,000 laws in place," he said. "We need to enforce the laws that are on the books." He said the Second Amendment wasn't written for hunters, it wasn't written for target shooters, it wasn't even written for people to defend themselves in their homes. "It was for the civilian population to effectively defend themselves from a government that is out of control," he said. "That's why it was written by our founding fathers." ---------------------------------- Kostaras said he would not sell a gun to someone who struck him as possibly disturbed. "They say, 'You have to.' I say, 'No, I don't.' " He recalled turning down a frail, elderly customer he suspected wanted a gun to kill himself. With the Obama announcement pending, Kostaras was so busy Tuesday that he hardly had time to talk. "Business is up," he said, "dramatically." |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:31:58 AM EDT
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That is a shame! I know Classic Pistol and it is a good place, though I don't know Bob. I don't understand how anyone in the gun community could say that the gun laws in PA should be stricter. Especially right now. WTF Bob!!! I can only imagine that this is driven by shortsightedness hoping to benefit from a few select new laws. You can't have it that way, Bob. You are either with us or against us, Bob!!! Hey Bob, you want to sell us out for your own limited gain or do you have some other, incomprehensible, reason for your actions? ETA: The only thing I found in a Google search shows Bob taking an opposite stance as what the OP reports was said on the radio. I'm sure some PA guys who go to CP regularly will figure out what was really said to the media in this regard. Here is the recent article in the Philly press, showing how simple even some regular shooters are: http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-17/news/36376237_1_gun-enthusiasts-gun-control-measures-universal-background-checks Some quotes from the article. Another cool Oriental guy is quoted also, said he had 5 guns in his trunk. "You're going to find this is not a liberal establishment," owner Bob Kostaras warned a reporter who had dropped by to chat with gun enthusiasts. "I don't think most of my customers voted for Obama." ----------- "There are 22,000 laws in place," he said. "We need to enforce the laws that are on the books." He said the Second Amendment wasn't written for hunters, it wasn't written for target shooters, it wasn't even written for people to defend themselves in their homes. "It was for the civilian population to effectively defend themselves from a government that is out of control," he said. "That's why it was written by our founding fathers." ---------------------------------- Kostaras said he would not sell a gun to someone who struck him as possibly disturbed. "They say, 'You have to.' I say, 'No, I don't.' " He recalled turning down a frail, elderly customer he suspected wanted a gun to kill himself. With the Obama announcement pending, Kostaras was so busy Tuesday that he hardly had time to talk. "Business is up," he said, "dramatically." That was from a couple days ago. The radio interview was 3-4 weeks ago, as was the ABC news short. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:33:10 AM EDT
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What a dick! My LGS, Trop Gun Shop in Elizabethtown PA, refused to attend a local gunshow because they restricted them from displaying any AR15 stuff. They are solidly 2A with no restrictions, and get all my business. Hell....even Cabelas took a stand and will not be attending the big gun show. They have a huge brand and have a lot more to lose than any LGS, anywhere.....and yet they chose to be true to their customer base and side with the constitution. Granted it was a business decision, but considering the climate, and the millions of dollars worth of non-gun items they sell every year, it says something about the folks who run that organization. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:34:02 AM EDT
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I believe in restricting their profit potential by not shopping there.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:34:50 AM EDT
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I'm in CA so I've never had the ability of conducting a FTF transaction. I don't think I'd ever sell to a stranger in a FTF sale for the liability issue. I would imagine that some number of guns that end up in criminals hands are from face to face sales. Some people aren't as diligent as members here when deciding who they'll sell a gun to, but some of those sellers might be law abiding and if it was required to do the background check maybe some small percent of those illegal purchases would be stopped -- and at the very least us as sellers have some sort of assurance that we're not selling a gun to a shithead.
Would a law stop the criminals who sell guns illegally already? Of course not, but closing the gun show loophole would give dittoheads a bit less to cry about when it comes to gun control and look like a major concession to the average MSNBC educated American. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:35:09 AM EDT
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He sounds like a Jewish tailor in Germany in the 1930s, voicing his support for the Nazi decree that Jews wear the Star of David on their clothing, so he can increase his income from alterations.
With "friends" like him, we do not need enemies, and unfortunately, guys like him are far from being rare these days. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:35:56 AM EDT
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And now it is your duty to spread the word and let him start working night shift at Sizzler.
Do they still have Sizzlers? 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:37:42 AM EDT
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I would tell that guy Ive bought my last item from him and never go back.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:41:00 AM EDT
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Sounds like Don's Guns in Indy. He does the same thing.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:41:01 AM EDT
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Anyone have a link to the actual article? Or a transcript of the interview? Before I contact them and explain why I'll be taking my money to their competition down the street, I'd like to see for myself what Bob actually said. I've spent a lot of money at CP over the years. If the allegation in the OP is true, they've seen my last dollar. Yup |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:41:48 AM EDT
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I'm in CA so I've never had the ability of conducting a FTF transaction. I don't think I'd ever sell to a stranger in a FTF sale for the liability issue. I would imagine that some number of guns that end up in criminals hands are from face to face sales. Some people aren't as diligent as members here when deciding who they'll sell a gun to, but some of those sellers might be law abiding and if it was required to do the background check maybe some small percent of those illegal purchases would be stopped -- and at the very least us as sellers have some sort of assurance that we're not selling a gun to a shithead. Would a law stop the criminals who sell guns illegally already? Of course not, but closing the gun show loophole would give dittoheads a bit less to cry about when it comes to gun control and look like a major concession to the average MSNBC educated American. LOL This is why we've already lost the country. Good job, vet. 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:42:08 AM EDT
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You people are easily led, aren't you? With nothing more to go on but second-hand information, you are ready to tar and feather the guy.
No wonder the anti's make us out to be a bunch of brainless conspiracy mongers. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:44:25 AM EDT
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Anyone have a link to the actual article? Or a transcript of the interview? Before I contact them and explain why I'll be taking my money to their competition down the street, I'd like to see for myself what Bob actually said. I've spent a lot of money at CP over the years. If the allegation in the OP is true, they've seen my last dollar. Yup I was listening to the radio when he called in. "I'm sure that I'm going to get strung up for this", and he then made the statements about mandatory transfers and training. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:45:17 AM EDT
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You people are easily led, aren't you? With nothing more to go on but second-hand information, you are ready to tar and feather the guy. No wonder the anti's make us out to be a bunch of brainless conspiracy mongers. I am diligently trying to get the radio interview transcript so I can post the actual call. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:46:12 AM EDT
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Places like his need to be boycotted if they are not support this
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:48:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'm in CA so I've never had the ability of conducting a FTF transaction. I don't think I'd ever sell to a stranger in a FTF sale for the liability issue. I would imagine that some number of guns that end up in criminals hands are from face to face sales. Some people aren't as diligent as members here when deciding who they'll sell a gun to, but some of those sellers might be law abiding and if it was required to do the background check maybe some small percent of those illegal purchases would be stopped -- and at the very least us as sellers have some sort of assurance that we're not selling a gun to a shithead. Would a law stop the criminals who sell guns illegally already? Of course not, but closing the gun show loophole would give dittoheads a bit less to cry about when it comes to gun control and look like a major concession to the average MSNBC educated American. Wow.  |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:50:14 AM EDT
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I'm in CA so I've never had the ability of conducting a FTF transaction. I don't think I'd ever sell to a stranger in a FTF sale for the liability issue. I would imagine that some number of guns that end up in criminals hands are from face to face sales. Some people aren't as diligent as members here when deciding who they'll sell a gun to, but some of those sellers might be law abiding and if it was required to do the background check maybe some small percent of those illegal purchases would be stopped -- and at the very least us as sellers have some sort of assurance that we're not selling a gun to a shithead. Would a law stop the criminals who sell guns illegally already? Of course not, but closing the gun show loophole would give dittoheads a bit less to cry about when it comes to gun control and look like a major concession to the average MSNBC educated American. I'd like to have access to nics, but the checks shouldn't be mandatory. Criminals don't usually buy their guns in legit ftf transactions anyways... Stolen guns and straw purchased guns make up the typical criminals arsenal. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:50:22 AM EDT
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Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay. This. He's more concerned with his pocket book than our rights. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:52:32 AM EDT
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LOL This is why we've already lost the country. Good job, vet.
Free men do not think like you. I guess I'm just a servant of the state because I think that making sure someone is green-lit to purchase a gun before I sell to them is a good thing. Not all criminals look like the hood rat buying a Hi Point on the corner. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:53:38 AM EDT
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Mike Dawson of Fivestar / Five Star Firearms in Ohio is in the same boat. See HTF:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_12/510525_Five_Star_Firearms_in_seven_hills____DOUCHE_.html |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:53:57 AM EDT
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Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay. This. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:55:40 AM EDT
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LOL This is why we've already lost the country. Good job, vet.
Free men do not think like you. I guess I'm just a servant of the state because I think that making sure someone is green-lit to purchase a gun before I sell to them is a good thing. Not all criminals look like the hood rat buying a Hi Point on the corner. You've already exposed who you are, peasant. Nothing you can say will provide more clarity. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:59:20 AM EDT
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I'm in CA so I've never had the ability of conducting a FTF transaction. I don't think I'd ever sell to a stranger in a FTF sale for the liability issue. I would imagine that some number of guns that end up in criminals hands are from face to face sales. Some people aren't as diligent as members here when deciding who they'll sell a gun to, but some of those sellers might be law abiding and if it was required to do the background check maybe some small percent of those illegal purchases would be stopped -- and at the very least us as sellers have some sort of assurance that we're not selling a gun to a shithead. Would a law stop the criminals who sell guns illegally already? Of course not, but closing the gun show loophole would give dittoheads a bit less to cry about when it comes to gun control and look like a major concession to the average MSNBC educated American. I'd like to have access to nics, but the checks shouldn't be mandatory. Criminals don't usually buy their guns in legit ftf transactions anyways... Stolen guns and straw purchased guns make up the typical criminals arsenal. SOOO true^^^^ I had a neighbor who had 4 handguns, he was a prohibited person yet he bought them illegally with the serials scratched off. Still think criminals won't be able to get a gun if you closed the "gun show loophole"? Yes, they will. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 10:00:22 AM EDT
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Money grubbing. Both proposals will make him money. Spread the word, and make him pay. first post and all that jaz |
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