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Posted: 4/20/2007 12:44:54 PM EDT
This guy's so full of BS his eyeballs are brown....

Rambo nation
By Peter Coster, April 18, 2007

WHEN I walked into Pachmayer's gun shop in Los Angeles it was 1982,
the year Rambo opened. Sylvester Stallone was pulling them in at the movie

He was also the poster boy for the Beverly Hills Gun Club and was
pulling them
in for the basic handgun course. Stallone mumbled through Rambo as his
assault rifle chattered. The Beverley Hills matrons loved Sly and must
have seen
him in their dreams as they went to sleep with handguns tucked under
their pillows.

I was interested in American gun culture and joined the throng at the
Hills Gun Club. An audience of mostly women sat listening to a handsome
police commander. His day job was as the weapons instructor for the LAPD.

"To protect and serve" was the LAPD motto. "To protect ourselves" might
been the motto of the Beverly Hills matrons. The women were interested in
home defence. Presumably, most of them lived alone. One large blonde woman
startled the rest of us by asking in a high-pitched voice, probably
because she
was nervous:

"What should you do if you shoot someone trying to break into your house?"

The police commander's answer was deep-voiced and serious:

"Drag him inside."

This was based on the legal likelihood of being able to avoid jail
because the
woman would have been in fear of her life. It also meant she would probably
be allowed to keep her gun in case of another intrusion. This answer seemed
to satisfy all present. Some, who might have been wary of gunning down
someone they saw lurking in the garden, were obviously relieved.

I write this in no way to trivialise what happened in Virginia
yesterday. The
death of 33 people in the university massacre is a loss of life on an
scale. It should convince Americans it is more than time to review a consti-
tutional amendment that is out of time and place. The need to have guns
the pillow is in frightened anticipation of a similarly armed person
breaking in
to kill you.

It is American culture. The Second Amendment to the United States Cons-
titution upholds the right to "keep and bear arms".

There are different gun laws in different states of the US. In
California, for
instance, not everyone has the right to carry a handgun. This includes
movie stars. Dean Martin was arrested in his Cadillac in downtown Los
Angeles for having a handgun under the front seat. He was also drunk.

Next door to me, where I lived with my family in Manhattan Beach, my next-
door neighbour, a friendly, boozy little man named Hank, also kept a gun
and drove a Cadillac. One morning, I stepped outside to hear Hank laying
down the law to a black police officer. This police officer was one of
the few
black people I had seen in Manhattan Beach.

This beachside had its own police force, members of which I sometimes
saw escorting lost black citizens from the sidewalks to the city limits.
was telling the black officer that "four black guys ran off after I
found them
trying to jack open the door of my Caddy last night.

"If I'd 'a had my little .357 Magnum with me, I'd 'a shot their asses."

I don't think he carried the gun with him when he left the house, but I did
worry that if he let loose inside his stucco-walled house, the bullets
have penetrated the equally thin walls of our house. The beach houses
were built within a metre of each other, and our daughter slept on that
Hank drank a lot of Jack Daniel's, judging from his overflowing garbage bin,
and was always inviting us in for a barbecue.

He wanted to discuss Australian harness racing, of which I knew nothing
and Hank knew a lot. I never went. Maybe I didn't want to disagree with him
about the relative merits of Australian and American horseflesh.

Guns can have that effect on you when you know they are around.

These are real stories about American gun culture and they form an
argument against a spread of weapons that were restricted in Australia
after the Port Arthur massacre and the Monash University shootings.

I will be criticised by some gun owners for fanning what they think will be
a surge of anti-gun hysteria. But that would be an over-reaction in the
of what has been achieved here.

In the United States, the lobby for the continued observance of the right
to keep and bear arms is pervasive. I knew the actor Charlton Heston
vaguely, having met him on Ronald Reagan's re-election campaign.

The old charioteer was also the president of America's politically
National Rifle Association. Apart from decrying what he called the
of the Left-wing media, he didn't mention guns to me. But there was little
need to. I had gone to bed on election night several floors up in the
Plaza Hotel when there was a loud hammering at my door.

I looked through the peephole and saw two men, one holding up a Secret
Service or FBI badge. I wasn't sure which.

I opened the door and they stormed through the room, handguns drawn.
One of them disappeared after swinging up to the next room from my
balcony. The other explained that a man had been seen climbing the outside
wall towards the President's penthouse suite. I saw the agent out the door
and went back to bed. The next morning, I read a small paragraph in the
newspaper saying someone had been arrested.

Had he been shot, it probably wouldn't have taken up much more news space.

President Reagan had been shot a few years earlier. "Honey, I forgot to
quipped the old actor when the First Lady, Nancy, visited him in hospital.

Remembering how his press secretary, James Brady, took a bullet that day
that ruined his life, I phoned the James Brady Campaign in the United

They have been tireless in trying to have US gun laws reformed. But while
34 students, including the shooter, were dead in the Virginia university
massacre, there was only an answering service to take calls on this tragedy.
But it won't. The Brady Campaign answering service said they didn't know
what had happened and they would not be passing on any messages until
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 12:48:12 PM EDT
This just in...We Americans don't care what the Aussies think.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 12:50:04 PM EDT

we have enough problems here now.

there are many nations on this earth, most in fact, where people have no will to be free. why care what they think, when it's not their thoughts anyhow? they are just repeating...

Link Posted: 4/20/2007 12:50:40 PM EDT
OMG soom moonbat in Australia criticized us! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 12:52:53 PM EDT
He referred to us as being like a medal of honor winner who was driven to defending himself from out of control, corrupt bastards that wanted to kill him for no reason when all he wanted was just to be left alone?

I'd take that as a compliment.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 12:54:35 PM EDT
Yeah 'cause taking guns worked so well for them! Its not like their crime rate is up by 50%
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 12:59:26 PM EDT
I used to respect the Aussies, as being manly cowboy outdoorsmen. ...but since they let their guns get taken away, I don't know what to think. Are they Wussies instead of Aussies.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:14:33 PM EDT
Hey......They drew first blood...
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:20:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2007 1:22:38 PM EDT by warlord]
"I'm coming to get.......YOU."

BTW: Charles Napier who played the bureacrat Marshall Murdock in Rambo II is actaully very pro-gun. I saw him at an NRA rallye 10 years ago.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:21:19 PM EDT
*farts in Australia's general direction*
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:22:41 PM EDT
At least our national heroes didn't get "rambo'd" by a stingray.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:25:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:26:02 PM EDT
that's cool. let them say what they want.
but when the Jerries and Japs come knocking we won't help them out.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 1:28:07 PM EDT
I don't think he's packin' anything in his budgie smugglers.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:59:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:
At least our national heroes didn't get "rambo'd" by a stingray.

You must know that a man 30 years his age got speared right through the heart same as him but lived!

Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:02:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bobbyjack:

Originally Posted By Hemi-Cuda:
At least our national heroes didn't get "rambo'd" by a stingray.

You must know that a man 30 years his age got speared right through the heart same as him but lived!


Americans never die from stingrays. Our hairy chests prevent piercing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:11:04 PM EDT
Coming from a country being overrun by muslim extremeists..
Maybe someday, he'll wish he had the right to protect himself.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:19:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:21:05 PM EDT
He can go eat Vegimite and suck an Aboriginese dick.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:21:45 PM EDT
I really don't give a shit what some asshole aussie thinks. I like guns so I will keep buying them and shooting them.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:23:22 PM EDT
I would argue that the VT shooter shows that guns are still VERY MUCH needed.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:27:32 PM EDT
I think I just heard a dog bark . . .
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:29:57 PM EDT
its spelled DEFENSE with a fucking "s".
Yeah, yeah, I know.........
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:41:22 PM EDT
Aussie aussie aussie, up up yours!!!
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:44:33 PM EDT
Maybe when they become the most powerful nation on Earth we'll give a fuck.

(FWIW, I say this as a non-American, foreign national, legal resident alien in case some son-of-a-bitch wants to accuse me of some bullshit ethnocentric nonsense).
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 6:47:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4-AK:
I used to respect the Aussies, as being manly cowboy outdoorsmen. ...but since they let their guns get taken away, I don't know what to think.

I agree with this part. After seeing the video documenting the confiscation and seeing the type of guns being turned in and then destroyed. I teared up. I admit it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 7:54:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4-AK:
I used to respect the Aussies, as being manly cowboy outdoorsmen. ...but since they let their guns get taken away, I don't know what to think. Are they Wussies instead of Aussies.

You are over generalising, just like the author of the article
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