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Posted: 12/25/2012 6:15:17 PM EDT
I've been GOP faithful since I can remember and I'm finding myself more and more disappointed with them. Find myself lookong for an alternative. Any Libertarian party supporters in here?
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:15:41 PM EDT
Lots.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:17:02 PM EDT
You must not have been hanging out here before the election...
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:17:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:19:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2012 6:19:50 PM EDT by wtturn]

Originally Posted By Coiffio:
You must not have been hanging out here before the election...

Indeed.

in before the Republican Party apologists, in before liberaltarian, losertarian, et. al. ad nauseum
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:19:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2012 6:20:56 PM EDT by Kbear]
I liked the idea of the Libertarian Party. However people who identified themselves as Libertarian were a turn off.

Oh yeah get ready for a complete shit fest with a sure lock, some warnings, and maybe a ban.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:19:44 PM EDT
I'm pretty damned libertarian in my views, but I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party. They need to learn how to run effective campaigns (ie start at the local level instead of going for President).
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:20:21 PM EDT
Libertarian checking in here!!!
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:22:22 PM EDT
I have a feeling the Libertarian ranks will swell soon.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:23:56 PM EDT
I have been here for a couple of years now. Big on 2nd amendment beliefs but never had anything to post or comment about. With the recent political climate I figured I would become more involved.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:24:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:24:52 PM EDT
I've voted the slate since the late seventies.

What's happened to my Party ?

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:25:21 PM EDT
I predict this thread will have the most ignored members since the Republican primaries.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:25:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ChiefWard:
I have been here for a couple of years now. Big on 2nd amendment beliefs but never had anything to post or comment about. With the recent political climate I figured I would become more involved.

Good on you, when it's not election time around here we can actually have some fairly civil and thought-provoking political discussions, with exceptions.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:26:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
I predict this thread will have the most ignored members since the Republican primaries.

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Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:26:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2012 6:27:06 PM EDT by DriveNASCAR]
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
I predict this thread will have the most ignored members since the Republican primaries.


Buncha anti-Paul freedom-haters around here!
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:27:03 PM EDT
Former Republican

Libertarian now..
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:27:29 PM EDT
I'm a hardcore Libertarian but I think the formal party is absolute shit run by old guys who need to disband the party to let a grassroots movement flourish.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:29:12 PM EDT
Hopefully some of the hardcore Republican or die folks will wake up when the Rs sell them out on a 10 round mag cap and come over to the dark side.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:29:56 PM EDT
I agree with about 75% of libertarian views.

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:30:06 PM EDT
I voted for 2 Libertarians in 2012
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:31:19 PM EDT
Welcome to the club.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:32:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2012 6:39:23 PM EDT by cmjohnson]
I'm still Republican but I do agree with certain Libertarian beliefs.


I believe people should be free to do anything they please as long as it does not harm other people against their wishes.

I believe in drug legalization...and no taxpayer funded treatment for any condition or injury that arises from the usage of drugs for recreational purposes.

I believe that mere possession should NEVER be a crime, no matter what it is that you're in possession of.

I believe in a tiny, very limited government that is by pure necessity very efficient in its use of what little money it gets from the people.

I believe that the government should never be permitted to borrow or spend a dollar without a set-in-stone plan to repay it or earn it back.

I believe in term limits at all levels of politics. I envision a lifetime limit of 20 years in politics at the absolute maximum, with all elected
positions at all levels, including city councilman, included in the total. With a maximum of two terms in the US Senate, two terms in the
US House, two terms in any other position. The only exception is that a person who has completed 20 years of elected service may run
for President and be elected if that's what the people want to do. So only a President could have up to 28 years in elected service. Everybody
else gets just 20.

I believe in the absolute abolition of any form of welfare system that either (a) provides a penny more than raw subsistence living, and (b)
permits able bodied, mentally sound people to live at government expense without a job even in the short term.

I support replacement of the welfare system with a work for pay system. If a person is unable to find a job, they sign on with the program
and they will get paid but they WILL work for it if they are capable of performing work. There's plenty of work to be done in America and
it's not BEING done by anyone.

Florida alone has MILLIONS of Brazilan Pepper trees that need eradication. Other agricultural eradication projects exist, or could exist,
all over the country. Many cities have areas that are essentially in ruins and need site clean-up, in some cases down to the bedrock.

Those people who can't find a job but want to get paid can get started on jobs of that sort. It's honest work and sweaty work, and it
needs doing. I'd say to put those people to work on those jobs and THEN they can get a check to keep the power on at home.

My concept is NO FREELOADERS. Compassionate exceptions would be made for those few who are TRULY unable to work for mental or
physical reasons.

People who have physical disabilities that are self-induced (you weight 500 pounds and thinks six large pizzas for lunch every day is normal)
would not be eligible for a compassionate exception. Lose the weight and then we'll talk.





CJ
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:32:06 PM EDT
I'm a registered Libertarian. Have been for a couple of decades. Probably won't be much longer.

Better results can be had from inside the Republican party, imho.

Libertarians have some great think tanks and legal foundations, but the party is a trainwreck.

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:32:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I'm pretty damned libertarian in my views, but I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party. They need to learn how to run effective campaigns (ie start at the local level instead of going for President).


This.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:32:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johnnyutah:
Hopefully some of the hardcore Republican or die folks will wake up when the Rs sell them out on a 10 round mag cap and come over to the dark side.


Not likely.

Every Republican in DC could vote to ban all gun ownership and certain people here would still be accusing Libertarians of secretly hating freedom and supporting Obama.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:37:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:44:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
I'm a registered Libertarian. Have been for a couple of decades. Probably won't be much longer.

Better results can be had from inside the Republican party, imho.

Libertarians have some great think tanks and legal foundations, but the party is a trainwreck.



I think the party is intentionally derailed by worthless old rich guys. They have no connection to the voter and just sit around thinking up bullshit.

They roadblock any appeal to the party itself.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:47:36 PM EDT
When the (R's) cave on all fronts it would seem to me that the Tea Party and those on the Conservative side of the party are gone.

The party is compromising my principles, I will not allow them to compromise my convictions.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:49:43 PM EDT


Clear your conscience brother, it is better to cast your vote for freedom, even though it will lose, than pinch your nose and vote for a political scumbag because of the letter next to their name.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:50:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sheddy:
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
I'm a registered Libertarian. Have been for a couple of decades. Probably won't be much longer.

Better results can be had from inside the Republican party, imho.

Libertarians have some great think tanks and legal foundations, but the party is a trainwreck.



I think the party is intentionally derailed by worthless old rich guys. They have no connection to the voter and just sit around thinking up bullshit.

They roadblock any appeal to the party itself.


Sounds like the Rs to me.

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:51:57 PM EDT
Right Here.

Official and registered as such.

Had it with both of the douche bag parties.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:54:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I'm pretty damned libertarian in my views, but I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party. They need to learn how to run effective campaigns (ie start at the local level instead of going for President).


Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:55:14 PM EDT
libertarian here.

Never voted for a libertarian candidate, as the only libertarians on my ballots have been presidential candidates. And I've always been assured that by voting libertarian my vote would go straight to the democratic candidate, so I never have.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:27:49 AM EDT
The Republicans have lets us down for the last time

never voted Libertarian because they never had a chance, now that I think about it I have always been voting AGAINST someone and never for someone. Maybe with the GOP dissentigrating into the weeping pile of cowardice they are we will see more numbers of Libertarians at the polls....then again....We may all be fighting from the hills like Peshmerga in four years
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:29:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tazaroo:
Libertarian checking in here!!!


Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:33:03 AM EDT
Buncha damned dopers ITT


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Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:43:00 AM EDT
The Libertarians I know are batshit crazy.
They're in a college enviroment, tho'...
I wouldn't vote any of 'em in for dog catcher, much less any office that is important.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:47:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DriveNASCAR:
Originally Posted By Johnnyutah:
Hopefully some of the hardcore Republican or die folks will wake up when the Rs sell them out on a 10 round mag cap and come over to the dark side.


Not likely.

Every Republican in DC could vote to ban all gun ownership and certain people here would still be accusing Libertarians of secretly hating freedom and supporting Obama.
What do you know you pot loving hippy?
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 2:59:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2012 3:00:40 AM EDT by Garand_Shooter]
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 3:10:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Birddog1911:
I predict this thread will have the most ignored members since the Republican primaries.


Works for me. And yeah, I voted Johnson.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 3:12:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2012 3:14:24 AM EDT by borat]
Yup - Libertarian, Radical Capitalist and Objectivist here.

Been a Libertarian ever since grad school when the concept of prostitution opened my eyes. I had always been brainwashed that prostitution is wrong and then a Libertarian speaker by the name of Richard Boddie introduced me to the idea of SELF-OWNERSHIP and individual rights.

I believe most people are inately Libertarian. They just want to be left alone to run their life as they see fit. (As opposed to the other 2 parties who know BETTER THAN YOU how you should run your life, eg, that prostitution is BAD, that guns are BAD, that porno is BAD, making money is BAD, that generally FREEDOM is BAD.)

RICHARD BODDIE
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 5:07:49 AM EDT
Oh...and I registered Libertarian here in VA. My voter registration got sent back 3 weeks later.

Registered with no party, got my registration in 3 days.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 5:12:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By andrasik:
I'm pretty damned libertarian in my views, but I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party. They need to learn how to run effective campaigns (ie start at the local level instead of going for President).


This. Also depends on the candidate.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 5:12:39 AM EDT
Never had anything against them and tend to agree with them more than the GOP. Didn't vote for them at national level because protecting our 2a rights takes both intent and power. GOP had the power. If GOP gives up the intent, then I will be pure Libertarian/third party/write-in.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 5:25:48 AM EDT
Liberty is over-rated. Just pay your taxes and shuffle to the feeding trough when you hear the bell.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 6:39:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By robplumm:
Oh...and I registered Libertarian here in VA. My voter registration got sent back 3 weeks later.

Registered with no party, got my registration in 3 days.


that would be because you can't register by party affiliation in VA.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 6:45:20 AM EDT
Yes. In principle, but 90% of the time vote GOP. There were actually a lot of libertarians on the ballet in my hometown this year, so i think we're kind of gaining momentum.

IMHO the best chance is for the Libertarians to team up with the Tea Partiers and swoop the GOP up.
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 6:51:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
I am one of the most outspoken LP critics on this forum.

I made a pledge this year to vote L in all local races the last election, to help them build from the bottom up.

Oops, there were none- only national and high state races they had no chance of winning.

They ignored all the local races they may have stood a chance in.

Because in reality they don't want to actually win any races and get into office, that would mean putting their ideas into action and that would take work.

They just want to run in races they can't win so they get a platform to talk about how much better their ideas are.

Political attention whores.


Agree, yeah, freedom is not a good idea and a political party that espouses freedom and a return to the Constitution is just a bad idea.

Link Posted: 12/26/2012 6:52:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/26/2012 6:53:32 AM EDT by robplumm]

Originally Posted By pilotman:
Originally Posted By robplumm:
Oh...and I registered Libertarian here in VA. My voter registration got sent back 3 weeks later.

Registered with no party, got my registration in 3 days.


that would be because you can't register by party affiliation in VA.

It had it on the form to fill out...they said my SSN was "incomplete"



I was in the Army, I've put my freaking SSN on so many things I really don't care any more about putting it on documents...
Link Posted: 12/26/2012 6:55:32 AM EDT
Libertarian checking in.

Live free, die free. Don't expect me to give a fuck if you can't handle it. Or does that just make me callous?
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