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Posted: 9/16/2009 5:57:38 AM EST
Here is video of the Liberal Americans United for Separation of Church and State arguing that students and parents should be warned the children do not have to say the Pledge of Allegiance to the U.S. Flag in school. In essence, they want kids to be given a "Miranda-type" warning - "You have the right not to say the Pledge."

VIDEO
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 6:22:48 AM EST
Robert, you pencil-necked geek.
Link Posted: 9/16/2009 7:22:58 AM EST
Of course they don not HAVE to say them pledge, but they should that God almighty above they GET to say it!!
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:21:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:47:15 AM EST
I'll never say the pledge again as long as I live. It was written by a socialist who had no understanding of what our system is about.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 2:53:26 AM EST
Your gonna be real popular here fredd!

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Link Posted: 9/17/2009 3:11:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By freddd:
I'll never say the pledge again as long as I live. It was written by a socialist who had no understanding of what our system is about.




Bellamy commented on his thoughts as he created the pledge, and his reasons for choosing the careful wording:

"It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution... with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...
"The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands'. ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?
"Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity'. No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all..."


What part of the system did Bellamy not understand?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 4:06:55 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 4:08:49 AM EST by freddd]
Originally Posted By BrianB2:
Originally Posted By freddd:
I'll never say the pledge again as long as I live. It was written by a socialist who had no understanding of what our system is about.




Bellamy commented on his thoughts as he created the pledge, and his reasons for choosing the careful wording:

"It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution... with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...
"The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands'. ...And what does that vast thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?
"Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity'. No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all..."


What part of the system did Bellamy not understand?


Not seeking to pick a fight here, but the part of the system that died when the "civil war" was completed: federalism. You know states rights. That's the difficulty we're having in our nation currently. The issue is alive and well. The power of the federal govt vs. the power of the states. I know there's a bunch of folks here that agree with me on this point. We've talked about this before, many many many times....
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