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Posted: 1/31/2011 7:39:05 PM EDT
How can they force you to pay, impose fines and jail time for not doing things like paying child support and not medical care? Does not make sense to me. Either both are illegal or neither. Ruling today seems inconsistent.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-healthcare-ruling-20110201,0,5516563.story
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 7:42:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Low post count, August of 2010 enrollment date,,,,,,this should be interesting.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 7:44:54 PM EDT
[#2]
You dont want to pay for a child, dont have one.
You dont want to pay for auto insurance? dont drive one.
You dont want to pay gasoline tax, dont buy any.
You dont want to pay social security or medicare, dont get a job.

You dont want to pay for healthcare? Fuck you buy it or the .gov and the IRS will butt fuck you with no lube.

ETA:
you dont want to have to buy Obamacare? Secretly get a waiver because you a union buddy or have close ties to Obama.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 7:47:25 PM EDT
[#3]
You have a financial obligation as a willing participant in creating the kid.

You don't have a legal obligation to provide yourself medical care.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 7:50:13 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Low post count, August of 2010 enrollment date,,,,,,this should be interesting.


I don't have much to say but I know what you're getting at. No I hate the bill I think this is clearly not Constitutional in the sense of what the Founding Fathers intended, the fact is that ship sailed long ago see child support. The Feds have been usurping rights for a century or more.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 7:55:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Low post count, August of 2010 enrollment date,,,,,,this should be interesting.


I don't have much to say but I know what you're getting at. No I hate the bill I think this is clearly not Constitutional in the sense of what the Founding Fathers intended, the fact is that ship sailed long ago see child support. The Feds have been usurping rights for a century or more.


That's like saying your lender couldn't force you to pay on your car note.

You had a choice to have a child.  Pay up.  You didn't have a choice to be alive.
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 7:55:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
You dont want to pay for a child, dont have one.
You dont want to pay for auto insurance? dont drive one.
You dont want to pay gasoline tax, dont buy any.
You dont want to pay social security or medicare, dont get a job.

You dont want to pay for healthcare? Fuck you buy it or the .gov and the IRS will butt fuck you with no lube.

ETA:
you dont want to have to buy Obamacare? Secretly get a waiver because you a union buddy or have close ties to Obama.


Makes sense. So obvious after you said it. Now you know why I don't post much:)...remove any doubt....
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 8:09:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Ruling is not inconsistent, you're talking apples and oranges here.  Couple quick things:  one, child support, a person as a individual obligation to the child and it's "regulated" by the states.  two,  
as the judge ruled the commerce clause does not apply to inactivity; just because I don't have health insurance doesn't mean I'm affecting commerce because I could pay out of pocket or even
choose not to seek care!
If  this ruling stands the federal government now will conceivably have the power to force us to purchase anything they deem necessary to commerce....HB1...all citizens will by law
purchase "insert item here" under penalty of law!  Hey Mr. Congresscritter sales are down for my plant in said district, I'll donate to campaign if....just think about it or just read your history
as to why we here in this country had a little thing called the Boston Tea Party! or look up definition of Socialism/Fascism  ya Statist Jackass!  (nothing personal just ranting)


Interesting isn't it, that it's judicial activism to the libtards to sight the constitution and founders; but it's not to completely make crap up and sight international law
Link Posted: 1/31/2011 8:15:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Ruling is not inconsistent, you're talking apples and oranges here.  Couple quick things:  one, child support, a person as a individual obligation to the child and it's "regulated" by the states.  two,  
as the judge ruled the commerce clause does not apply to inactivity; just because I don't have health insurance doesn't mean I'm affecting commerce because I could pay out of pocket or even
choose not to seek care!
If  this ruling stands the federal government now will conceivably have the power to force us to purchase anything they deem necessary to commerce....HB1...all citizens will by law
purchase "insert item here" under penalty of law!  Hey Mr. Congresscritter sales are down for my plant in said district, I'll donate to campaign if....just think about it or just read your history
as to why we here in this country had a little thing called the Boston Tea Party! or look up definition of Socialism/Fascism  ya Statist Jackass!  (nothing personal just ranting)


Interesting isn't it, that it's judicial activism to the libtards to sight the constitution and founders; but it's not to completely make crap up and sight international law


Cite but yeah. They hate liberty. Especially financial liberty.
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