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Posted: 8/23/2004 9:53:54 PM EST
I just went and saw the U.S.S. Midway in San Diego. I am kind of curious as to how our new carriers stack up. I also saw two carriers across the bay being worked on in the Naval shipyard, there was a single F-18 on the deck of one. Pretty cool stuff.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 9:57:45 PM EST
I called the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) home for a few months back in the early 80's.

A "Nimitz-Class" carrier is the Nuclear powered, Midway was a old diesel boat,

what else you want to know?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:04:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
I called the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) home for a few months back in the early 80's.

A "Nimitz-Class" carrier is the Nuclear powered, Midway was a old diesel boat,

what else you want to know?



Hmm, I guess highlights, aircraft capacity, defense armament, crew size, anecdotes, whatever anyone feels like volunteering.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:07:11 PM EST
This is a good place to start....

Haze Gray & Underway
World Aircraft Carrier Lists
And Photo Gallery
www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:07:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 10:10:47 PM EST by Fly-Navy]
USS Midway (CV-41) is a unique carrier in that she started out as a straight-decker, i.e. WWII design. They eventually converted her to an angle-deck design. She was also powered by 12 boilers, not diesels.

Displacement: 62,000 tons full load
Length: 979 feet
Beam: 121 feet
Flight Deck Width: 238 feet
Speed: 30-plus knots
Power Plant: 12 boilers, four geared steam turbines four shafts, 212,000 shaft horsepower
Aircraft: Approximately 65
Complement: 2,533 ship's company; 2,239 in air wing

The USS Nimitz (CVN-68) class are the largest warships in the world. They're powered by 2 nuclear reactors and are much newer than the USS Midway class.

Builder: Newport News Shipbuilding Co., Newport News, Va.
Power Plant: Two Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactor) Four shafts, Four propellers, with five blades each
Length: overall 1,092 feet (332.85 meters)
Flight Deck Width: 252 feet (76.8 meters)
Beam: 134 feet (40.84 meters)
Displacement: Approx. 97,000 tons (87,300 metric tons) full load
Speed: 30+ knots (34.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft: 85
Crew: Ship's Company: 3,200 Air Wing: 2,480

Check out www.fas.org and www.globalsecurity.org as well.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:08:37 PM EST
I used to watch the nuclear subs being built at the General Dynamics Groton Yard and those are pretty neat to see.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:10:01 PM EST
Just remember that the first US Carrier (USS Langley CV-1) was a converted collier, the USS Jupiter (AC-3).

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:19:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 10:20:51 PM EST by raven]
Carriers arent as expensive as you think. They're only like $4b or so. A single B-2 bomber is like a $1b or so isn't it?

Fuck, we should double the number of carriers. It'd only cost maybe $50b. We dumped $90b into Iraq in a single year.

More more more carriers. 20 fucking carrier groups, how'd you like them apples?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:23:58 PM EST
They're big,huge, gigantic!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:27:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 10:29:32 PM EST by dpmmn]
Here is really nice pic of the Nimitz




Here is one of her pulling into Pearl Harbor


Here is a couple of Midway



Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:34:41 PM EST
Raven just found him some new wallpaper. <cues theme from The Final Countdown>
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:37:12 PM EST
God, the Midway must have been a bitch to land on.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:39:24 PM EST
All I know is that watching fireworks from the USS John C. Stennis was fun.

Them things are big.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:50:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
I called the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) home for a few months back in the early 80's.

A "Nimitz-Class" carrier is the Nuclear powered, Midway was a old diesel boat,

what else you want to know?



Midway was a steam turbine driven carrier, as has been every carrier from the beginning of WWII until now. Even the nukes are steam turbines, just heated from a different fuel source.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 10:51:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Raven just found him some new wallpaper. <cues theme from The Final Countdown>



One of my favorite movies, at least until Martin Sheen turned into an asshole.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 11:52:23 PM EST
Here is Nimitz avoiding a GreenPeace Protester in a Zodiak.



Fritz
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 12:42:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Carriers arent as expensive as you think. They're only like $4b or so. A single B-2 bomber is like a $1b or so isn't it?

Fuck, we should double the number of carriers. It'd only cost maybe $50b. We dumped $90b into Iraq in a single year.

More more more carriers. 20 fucking carrier groups, how'd you like them apples?



Newest carrier being built is costed out as 11.3 billion, or there abouts.

70% of the USN budget goes to personell.

Adding carriers requires adding carrier groups, all the support ships, smaller warships, port facilities, and aircraft.

Even when we were working on a 600 ship navy, we didn't go "20 carrier", I'm sure it has something to do with operating costs.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 2:44:06 AM EST
The first nuclear-powered carrier was U.S.S. Enterprise. All carriers after Enterprise are powered by 2 reactors, but the Enterprise is powered by 8. Yes that's right, there are 8 nuclear reactors on the Enterprise, 2 each couple to one of the four shafts. These are basically submarine reactors, and provide quite a surplus of power.

I have heard many a sea story about the alleged top speed of the Enterprise being 50kt.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:15:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Thekatar:
The first nuclear-powered carrier was U.S.S. Enterprise. All carriers after Enterprise are powered by 2 reactors, but the Enterprise is powered by 8. Yes that's right, there are 8 nuclear reactors on the Enterprise, 2 each couple to one of the four shafts. These are basically submarine reactors, and provide quite a surplus of power.

I have heard many a sea story about the alleged top speed of the Enterprise being 50kt.





Once you got it above 45 Kts, the cavitation was pretty bad.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 3:19:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By fritzthecat:
Here is Nimitz avoiding a GreenPeace Protester in a Zodiak.


Unfortunately..... hey, even sharks need to eat too, right?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 5:50:33 AM EST
PBS produced a show on aircraft carriers, it was really interesting watching it. The thing that I remember the that sticks in my mind the most, was trying to land a plane on a carrier, the commentator referred to it as a "controlled crash landing."
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:02:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/24/2004 6:12:22 AM EST by Paul]
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:02:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Carriers arent as expensive as you think. They're only like $4b or so. A single B-2 bomber is like a $1b or so isn't it?

Fuck, we should double the number of carriers. It'd only cost maybe $50b. We dumped $90b into Iraq in a single year.

More more more carriers. 20 fucking carrier groups, how'd you like them apples?



I think the really cost of the carriers is in the planes and all the people x time. I think they are pretty expensive, but worth every penny. Think how we would be without them?
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:03:35 AM EST

Learne me about Air Craft carriers.



First you need to master English.

SGtar15
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 6:14:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Learne me about Air Craft carriers.



First you need to master English.

SGtar15













Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:17:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Learne me about Air Craft carriers.



First you need to master English.

SGtar15




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Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:19:38 AM EST
I wonder if the Midway wallows in port.....
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:21:03 AM EST
Just 4 u........





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Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:22:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By CavVet:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Learne me about Air Craft carriers.



First you need to master English.

SGtar15




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Here, it's smaller:



Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:27:48 AM EST
I've stood in awe as I watch the Nimitz one year and the Abraham Lincoln the next year enter the San Francisco Bay for fleet week.

DAYUM! It's hard to believe that something that huge-made of steel-floats.

Absolutely incredible.

I was also at San Diego once, driving past the shipyards, and I saw a submarine that was as big as the small aircraft carrier almost next to it. This was from about 2 miles away, so the perception may have been skewed, but that sub was BIG.
Link Posted: 8/24/2004 8:29:11 AM EST
Sexual, did you ever get on with the P.D.?
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