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Posted: 1/18/2006 1:40:55 PM EDT
First: I do believe we went to the moon, and landed there, etc.
Second: I have a question about why the lunar landing module did not kick up debris at a greater rate?? The engine had something like 7000hp worth of thrust blowing down on the surface of the moon and yet the top layer was barely disturbed. Why? Especially in comparison to the amount of dust displaced when the astronauts stepped on the same ground. Ideas?? Again, let me state that I believe we landed on the moon with our astronauts, but I am perplexed at the non-displacing thrust from the lunar module. |
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I would hazard a guess that the lack of atmosphere prevents drag on the particles so they fall down faster and it just seems that there is little disturbance. Considering that during scuba diving particles hang around A LOT longer if you stir things up. |
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Duh! We didn't really go to the moon. It was all filmed in a studio at area 51.
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I wanted to say ask a space shuttle door gunner but that was before the space shuttle. Were there moon lander door gunners ya think???
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How do things 'fall down faster' when there's less gravity? |
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You were watching the National Geographic channel weren't you I wanna smack those damn moonlanding hoax nut jobs |
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I was waiting for that one If you drop a feather and a rock from the same height in the yard, air resistance will prevent the feather from hitting at the same time as the rock. Same objects, same height in a vacuum (lack of atmosphere) and they hit at the same time. |
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Gotcha, I took a physics class.....once. I do, however, believe we landed on the moon. |
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The acceleration due to gravity is less, so in a vaccuum things in a 1/6G environment (moon) will fall slower - true. However, when we consider things like dust, it doesn't fall at the rate dictated by gravity when there is an atmosphere -- air makes it fall MUCH slower, or even not at all if there are air currents and the particles are small. Sort of like someone mentioned with scuba diving -- stir up a patch of mud and it hangs around for ages -- wouldn't if there were no water there ... |
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The dust up there is like talcum powder, it just compacts and stays in place after the initial blast.
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That looks like a science fair project or something we would have built at our Klub Houz as kids. Staples, tar paper, metallic foil. Would you get in that thing to ride to the moon? |
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From Bad Astronomy:
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Edit; Tomislav beat me to it All the hoax bullshit debunked, and lots of good info; badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html#crater This particular issue;
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Because there is less dust on the moon than thought. The moon has not been around for millions of years, it has been around for thousands, just like the earth. Notice the huge feet on the lunar lander? They expected extremely deep dust so they put those huge dish shaped feet on there to keep the lander from sinking into the dust; but it was not so deep after all. Flame away christian bashers! |
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you have got to be kidding me. anyone that thinks that lander traveled more than 50 ft across a set is nuts. that thing would fall apart if someone inside broke wind. |
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I dunno, but have you heard Sting sing about woking on da moon?
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You are REALLY taking the fun out of this thread................... |
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What's the matter? Can't comprehend fact? |
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Me too I'll let everyone know what its like when I get there myself. |
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actually its not just that the moon landing was faked, but in reality the moon itself is fake, we've been staring at a projected image for centuries
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This fall, while in Mississippi for Katrina relief work, I was amazed by one of the other supervisors from my Company. He was adament that we never put a man on the moon. He seriously believed it was all a hoax.
I found this to be amazing comming from a guy in his 40's who held a Supervisors position. He was so convenced it was a sham he was willing to argue the point for about 20 minutes. |
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There are several reasons.
First of all, the full thrust is to slow the LEM down to get out of orbit. It uses very little of its available thrust to actually touch down. Second of all, since there is no atmosphere, the gasses that come from the engine expand very fast in every direction. Not as much of it would reach the ground as would if there were air to contain the column of gas. The dust directly below the engines is blown away, but very little of the engine's gasses reach any farther along the ground. |
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Here is a list of Arguments Creationists Should Not Use by the answersingenesis.com folks. Included is the false argument about the dust on the moon. Enjoy |
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OOOoooooooookkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy, scratch that one........ |
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I saw a recent documentary on the moon landings and it's scary how many times the astronauts almost died getting to the moon and back.
In pre-flight tests, the rocket engine responsible for getting them off the surface of the moon only fired three times out of six!!!. They went to the moon knowing they had a 50/50 chance of being stuck there! |
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Christian bashers? Who in the hell said anything about Christian? You're just ignorant boy! Or man. Or whatever you call yourself. Maybe you're an alien since you obviously know a lot more than we do! |
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that was uesed to land the thing. not return the lander to the command madule. Look above the astronaut. those are the thrusters used to return. the bottom portion of the lander stayed where it was and the top portion lifted off from it. |
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Exactly. Look at that thing. I mean, it's warped cardboard and foil. |
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Someday this will be settled once and for all when we return and show everyone the stuff left behind.
Maybe the moonbats will shut up then. |
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Remember what happened to the last guy who accused Buzz of lying?
"Apollo moon hoaxer Bart Sibrel finally got a response from Apollo 11 moon walker Buzz Aldrin after several abortive attempts to interview the famous astronaut over the last couple of years. The response for Sibrel was a stiff punch from the athletic 72-year old former astronaut. Aldrin was accosted by Sibrel and a video crew outside of a Beverly hills hotel on Monday, September 9, 2002. Sibrel told Reuters News Service, "I approached him and asked him again to swear on a Bible that he went to the moon, and told him he was a thief for taking money to give an interview for something he didn't do,". Sibrel, who has been arrested himself on one or more occasions, reported the "knuckle sandwich" incident to police with the intention of having assault charges file against Aldrin." www.dumpalink.com/media/1118149764/Buzz_Aldrin_Punch Aviator |
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Some people will believe anything if it lets them make fun of everyone else . . . . . . what would the chances be of everyone involved in the space program being capable (not willing, but capable) of remaining mum about a lie this big? ZERO! Somebody would get poor in their old age and then they would squeal and be able to point to the right direction to let the cat out of the bag, cashing in on the talk show and lecture circuit. Face it, Uncle Sugar in incapable of bribing that many people . . . especially all the guys who would have worked on the set for the stupid project. |
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Yep, that's the descent engine nozzle, or bell. The engine that lifted the ascent module is at the bottom of the crew compartment, and those thrusters above the doors are attitude thrusters.
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Projected onto what? |
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Since about 45% of America is part of the rat fuck liberal party. They leak every damned government secret they get their paws on for a little TV time. They love to hear themselves rant like assholes on the tellie. Do you really think they could keep a little factoid like fake moon landings and billions squandered on nothing, a secret?
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After filming, they doped up most of the help on synthetic drugs the gummit made and sent them to the jungles of Vietnam to never return. They were made a lesson to those that didn't go to keep quiet. Besides, if anyone were going to rat out the project, the gummit would know as they can read your thoughts, right through the tin foil hat so don't bother with that one. |
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I dunno, but I'm pretty sure it's Bush's fault |
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Onto the Moon of course! edit: or maybe the Death Star |
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