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Posted: 2/18/2007 5:26:04 PM EST
I've been waiting to get a RRA 308 lower, but once again, they have delayed until June 2007, citing trouble with the uppers. On a separate note, Armalite is having trouble with the cotter pin over the firing pin breaking. This might be the same trouble with the RRA.

Anyway, the M14 is CA legal, so I'm thinking of going that way. They sell their new steel hammer forged receiver has two mounting screw holes for a 1913 rail for the scope mount and looks promising. Their national match version runs about $2300 for the rifle and $900 for the receiver only.

Has anyone used this before, and other recommendations?

www.lrbarms.com/home.html

If I wanted to build my own M14 using their receiver, where do I go for plans or instructions? Is there an M14.com?
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 5:27:30 PM EST
Get in line pal

I was told April or there about for a complete rifle. The wait is killing me..
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 5:28:37 PM EST
http://www.m-14forum.com/upload/index.php?

http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=6

Ya need to work on your Googlefu grass hopper .
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 5:33:44 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 5:35:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Go get some lotion

images1.snapfish.com/3494%3A8%3B92%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E232%3C%3D363%3D43­7%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B74%3C%3A8769ot1lsi

Give Lou a call Monday Morning and get on the list


I REALLY hate when you post that picture.
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 5:46:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/18/2007 5:48:41 PM EST by drrocket]

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Go get some lotion

images1.snapfish.com/3494%3A8%3B92%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E232%3C%3D363%3D43­7%3DXROQDF%3E2323%3B74%3C%3A8769ot1lsi

Give Lou a call Monday Morning and get on the list


What kind of groups are your getting with a scope? And what is the trigger pull?
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 5:51:18 PM EST
God Id love to have an M14, way to much money though
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 6:01:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 6:04:35 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 8:08:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 9:02:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 9:02:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By drrocket:


What kind of groups are your getting with a scope? And what is the trigger pull?



I don't see a scope on it


I thought you got the M25 version with the two scope threaded holes on top of the receiver. I am interested in a long range semi auto 308.

Link Posted: 2/18/2007 9:33:20 PM EST
Has anyone ever had a cast receiver break, or is this like having carbon fiber on your dashboard?
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 9:53:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wave:
I can always take a short drive to the LRB shop and take my pick from what he has in his showcase...

He makes GREAT rifles and I wouldn't hesitate to get one.


Hey, hey, hey! Shut up about them! You trying to wreck the good thing we got going?
The less people know about that place the better. Best kept secret, SHHHHHH!
Link Posted: 2/18/2007 9:54:03 PM EST
One of the happiest days of my life was the day I purchased a Springfield Armory M1A (NIB) for under $800.00.

Of course, this was in 1992, but it is one of the sweetest deals I have ever gotten.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 5:50:23 PM EST
LRB has a monopoly on forged M-14/M-1A recievers, unfortunetly unless they have changed them there markings are BUTT UGLY, that combined with the outragouse price have kept me from buying one, unfortunetly a cast reciever is unacceptable so I can't use anyone else eighther, so I guess the M-14 slot of my collection will have to remain empty for now.
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 9:41:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 9:52:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/24/2007 10:40:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/24/2007 10:43:03 PM EST by Small_Arms_Collector]

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By Slash:
LRB is no longer using the dot-matrix markings.


The Rollmark looks like this:

images1.snapfish.com/34955%3C57%3A%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E272%3E346­%3EWSNRCG%3D323287%3C697%3A%3B6nu0mrj


Let me add, that there is nothing wrong wit that rollmark at all


Yes there is the stamp reads:

U.S. Rifle
7.62MM M14SA
LRB Arms
serial number

I want it to read:

U.S. Rifle
7.62MM M14
LRB Arms
serial number

See the differance?, I want them to get rid of the gay politicly correct SA, and make the markings like Fulton Armory does:



I believe a few other makers do to, why won't LRB?

I'm a collector, but unfortunetly do to the communists I can't as I am unable to afford the $12,000+ I would need to buy one, so I will have to settle for a semi, but it MUST BE AS CORRECT AS POSSIBLE, that means forged reciever, M-14 stock, and I even plan to go so far as to add one of Fulton Armorys fake selector switches, and M14 MARKINGS, so to me LRB does not meat the standards, neighther unfortunetly does anyone else, and frankly I find M14SA to look corney, and ugly. It took me over a year to find the correct parts to build my AR-15 because noboddy seemed to want millitary spec parts (specificly the barral is it so f@#%kin' hard to make something OTHER than 1:9 HBAR's?), I had to obviously settle for incorrect markings, but I only did that because ther kind of out of the way not stareing you right in the face everytime you shoulder the rifle like an M-14 does, and frankly I think the markings on M-1's, and M-14's just seem to "make" the rifle some how like that last little finnishing touch.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 7:35:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 8:06:29 AM EST
M14 Forum
I'd suggest getting an experienced M14 armorer to build your rifle.While you certainly can build it yourself it's not like bolting together an AR.Also, factor in the cost of the tools and reference material and you'd be better off having it built.BUT,if you want the challenge you'll want

"The U.S. .30 Caliber Gas Operated Service Rifles: A Shop Manual Volumes 1 & 2" Book by Jerry Kuhnhausen

"The M14 Complete Assembly Guide" Book by Walt Kuleck with Clint McKee

Get these two books first,then you can decide if the outlay in tools is worth it to you.It's alot of money in tools but on the other hand you'll be able to service your own rifle.The whole forged vs cast has been beaten to death.It's just silly,either receiver will outlast you.

Link Posted: 2/25/2007 8:12:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By Small_Arms_Collector:
unfortunetly a cast reciever is unacceptable



WHY?
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 8:17:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Small_Arms_Collector:

Originally Posted By dpmmn:

Originally Posted By Slash:
LRB is no longer using the dot-matrix markings.


The Rollmark looks like this:

images1.snapfish.com/34955%3C57%3A%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3B%3E272%3E346­%3EWSNRCG%3D323287%3C697%3A%3B6nu0mrj


Let me add, that there is nothing wrong wit that rollmark at all


Yes there is the stamp reads:

U.S. Rifle
7.62MM M14SA
LRB Arms
serial number

I want it to read:

U.S. Rifle
7.62MM M14
LRB Arms
serial number

See the differance?, I want them to get rid of the gay politicly correct SA, and make the markings like Fulton Armory does:

www.fulton-armory.com/FA00106-Closeup-600_50.jpg

I believe a few other makers do to, why won't LRB?

I'm a collector, but unfortunetly do to the communists I can't as I am unable to afford the $12,000+ I would need to buy one, so I will have to settle for a semi, but it MUST BE AS CORRECT AS POSSIBLE, that means forged reciever, M-14 stock, and I even plan to go so far as to add one of Fulton Armorys fake selector switches, and M14 MARKINGS, so to me LRB does not meat the standards, neighther unfortunetly does anyone else, and frankly I find M14SA to look corney, and ugly. It took me over a year to find the correct parts to build my AR-15 because noboddy seemed to want millitary spec parts (specificly the barral is it so f@#%kin' hard to make something OTHER than 1:9 HBAR's?), I had to obviously settle for incorrect markings, but I only did that because ther kind of out of the way not stareing you right in the face everytime you shoulder the rifle like an M-14 does, and frankly I think the markings on M-1's, and M-14's just seem to "make" the rifle some how like that last little finnishing touch.



You must be fun at parties
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 8:54:41 AM EST

unfortunetly a cast reciever is unacceptable


Why ???

Link Posted: 2/25/2007 10:00:39 AM EST
LRB's are probably about the closest to a REAL M14 as you're gonna get, They build excellant rifles. I hope you have alot of patience and money, because you'll need both. I'd also consider picking up some small spare parts while they can still be found, to keep it running well into the future. You know, firing pins, ejectors, and springs, op-rod springs, hammers triggers mainsprings etc, you may never need any of it, but it's nice to have some spare parts just in case...
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 10:07:03 AM EST
Mmmm. M14 goodness. Almost brings a tear to my eye.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 11:37:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2007 11:40:37 AM EST by Small_Arms_Collector]

Originally Posted By MadBodhi:
M14 Forum
I'd suggest getting an experienced M14 armorer to build your rifle.While you certainly can build it yourself it's not like bolting together an AR.Also, factor in the cost of the tools and reference material and you'd be better off having it built.BUT,if you want the challenge you'll want

"The U.S. .30 Caliber Gas Operated Service Rifles: A Shop Manual Volumes 1 & 2" Book by Jerry Kuhnhausen

"The M14 Complete Assembly Guide" Book by Walt Kuleck with Clint McKee

Get these two books first,then you can decide if the outlay in tools is worth it to you.It's alot of money in tools but on the other hand you'll be able to service your own rifle.The whole forged vs cast has been beaten to death.It's just silly,either receiver will outlast you.



I'm not conserned with strength, well I am but thats not my primary concern. I want the EXACT same specs, and demensions as the origional, cast recievers are to thin in certain areas, furthor more the origionals were FORGED, not cast, it's the same reason that I won't buy a cast AR reciever, they may infact hold up fine but THEY ARE NOT CORRECT. I want the exact millitary spec, or rather as close as I can legaly get without spending as much as a new car. I MIGHT consider cast if they were made to the EXACT same demensions as the mil-spec demands, but there not. Like I said it took me over a year to build my AR simply because I would not tollerate out of spec parts no matter how good they may have been. LRB looks good but those markings are unfortunetly unacceptable to me.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 11:41:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By KIDGLOCK:

unfortunetly a cast reciever is unacceptable


Why ???

i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/KIDGLOCK/M14pics008.jpg


What am I looking at here?
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 4:35:18 PM EST
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 4:45:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2007 4:50:32 PM EST by DaveS]

Originally Posted By drrocket:
... uppers. On a separate note, Armalite is having trouble with the cotter pin over the firing pin breaking. This might be the same trouble with the RRA.

... M14.com?


What circle jerk were you pivot-man when you swallowed that one?

RRA is trying to fight the known laws of physics and doing FAL alchemy with AR bolts.
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 6:40:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/25/2007 6:40:58 PM EST by Slash]
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 7:14:15 PM EST



Link Posted: 2/25/2007 7:25:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By drrocket:
I've been waiting to get a RRA 308 lower, but once again, they have delayed until June 2007, citing trouble with the uppers. On a separate note, Armalite is having trouble with the cotter pin over the firing pin breaking. This might be the same trouble with the RRA.




Where did you get that gem?
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 7:32:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By Small_Arms_Collector:
I'm a collector, but unfortunetly do to the communists I can't as I am unable to afford the $12,000+ I would need to buy one, so I will have to settle for a semi, but it MUST BE AS CORRECT AS POSSIBLE, that means forged reciever, M-14 stock, and I even plan to go so far as to add one of Fulton Armorys fake selector switches, and M14 MARKINGS, so to me LRB does not meat the standards, neighther unfortunetly does anyone else, and frankly I find M14SA to look corney, and ugly. It took me over a year to find the correct parts to build my AR-15 because noboddy seemed to want millitary spec parts (specificly the barral is it so f@#%kin' hard to make something OTHER than 1:9 HBAR's?), I had to obviously settle for incorrect markings, but I only did that because ther kind of out of the way not stareing you right in the face everytime you shoulder the rifle like an M-14 does, and frankly I think the markings on M-1's, and M-14's just seem to "make" the rifle some how like that last little finnishing touch.



So let me get this straight, you want a fake selector switch, but an "SA" in the rollmark is unacceptable.

Okay.

Fake selector switches are like fake silencers...TEH GHEY!
Link Posted: 2/25/2007 7:37:18 PM EST
I've had mine for about 2 years now. I built it up from a barreled receiver. It has a HRT bolt, and H&R trigger group, and a USGI SA oprod. Sadlak NM spring guide and a wilson chrome lined barrel. I liked it so much, I sold my SA Inc. M1A, as the LRB is a superior rifle in quality, fit, and accuracy.






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